[Debate] Regulated Suicide

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what we call ‘responders’ in medicine,

are you a doctor ?

but seriously, if I wasn't believing in a life after death I 100% would have committed suicide. this world is meaningless if there is nothing after death.
if death means no memory, no past, no present, complete void then there is no point in living in the first place, no matter how you think about it, so why the hell not end it and get over with it. that's what I honestly believe.
 
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are you a doctor ?

but seriously, if I wasn't believing in a life after death I 100% would have committed suicide. this world is meaningless if there is nothing after death.
if death means no memory, no past, no present, complete void then there is no point in living in the first place, no matter how you think about it, so why the hell not end it and get over with it. that's what I honestly believe.

Because you can still enjoy it in the moment. Yes when we die it will be meaningless but right now it isn't as we can still feel.
 

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Because you can still enjoy it in the moment. Yes when we die it will be meaningless but right now it isn't as we can still feel.

for me life isn't worth living if it has an end, as it is not existing in reality. if you were dead for an eternity, and will return to death for an eternity, then living 1s isn't worth it, its not even life. it's like if you take a number let's say 1.000.000 and multiply by 0, it remains a 0.

life isn't worth living if the ultimate truth is death, absolute death and void an nothingness.
 

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I absolutely support the idea of "regulated suicide". Honestly, I don't understand why people even have a problem with this. Your life, your choice.
Sure, there need to be measures to prevent hot-headed, rushed decisions as good as possible, but if a person is 100% confident that he/she no longer wants to live, than that person should have the legal right to end his/her own life in a comfortable way. Such a system would also help in the way that less people would commit suicide in private or public, which very often emotionally damages the people around those who end their lives.

And if you need to believe in an afterlife in order to value your life, then you are a very pitiful person. Life is not meaningless only because you don't get your eternal reward in the end.. life is a journey. And the journey is the reward. Everything you experience, all your memories.. the bonds between people.. that's what counts and gives meaning to our very short and fragile lives.
 

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And if you need to believe in an afterlife in order to value your life, then you are a very pitiful person.

non supported statement with a little taste of insult, probably made by a person who doesn't like me. hum.

Life is not meaningless only because you don't get your eternal reward in the end.. life is a journey. And the journey is the reward. Everything you experience, all your memories.. the bonds between people.. that's what counts and gives meaning to our very short and fragile lives.

another statement full of very beautifull and poetic words but empty of meaning and of logic. all the memories, the bonds, all what counts all what is acquired in this journey means nothing, as it all will be lost, every experience, memory, everything.

as if it never happened.

for the dead person, it never happened.

it never happened.
 

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are you a doctor ?

but seriously, if I wasn't believing in a life after death I 100% would have committed suicide. this world is meaningless if there is nothing after death.
if death means no memory, no past, no present, complete void then there is no point in living in the first place, no matter how you think about it, so why the hell not end it and get over with it. that's what I honestly believe.

Many people, philosophers asked this question...and I think the ultimate and most beautifully expressed atheistic point of view is that of Albert Camus. Check his works.
 

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Many people, philosophers asked this question...and I think the ultimate and most beautifully expressed atheistic point of view is that of Albert Camus. Check his works.

will do, thank you.
 

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Sure, if you want to end your life be my guest. I'm have a strong distain for some suicidal people, honestly. If your suicidal tendancies were brought upon by a mental disorder, a truly trumatic life experience, I have no problem with you.
 

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Do you think that a legal way of euthanasia can avoid publuc suicide of some people? As form of aggresion toward society this will never end.
After reading just few posts in this thread i have to say OT: no, i disagree and not just because the reason i put above, but because i dont trust that a correct law can be made and if the law is perfect i dont think it can and will be apply correctly.( If my last sentence has a grammar error, sorry, my bad)
 

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are you a doctor ?

but seriously, if I wasn't believing in a life after death I 100% would have committed suicide. this world is meaningless if there is nothing after death.
if death means no memory, no past, no present, complete void then there is no point in living in the first place, no matter how you think about it, so why the hell not end it and get over with it. that's what I honestly believe.

Just a lowly first year medical student who happens to be familiar with the basic pathophysiology and pharmacology of common mental disorders.

The universe is over 13 billion years old, you and I did not exist for that duration, if you can accept that, why is it so difficult to accept that one day you will cease to exist again?

And I beg to differ on the value and meaning of life, nefraiko. Value and meaning are little more than human attitudes and beliefs about our experience, that is why people can hold differences in them. And with humans, value and meaning are inseparable from scarcity and temporality – any object or experience is desired, and then valued, insofar as it is scarce and finite.

We give significance to those memories of those events which are uncommon, and forget the mundane events of everyday life by the day. And so it is with human bonds, too – for the most meaningful are those few that are hard won and hard kept. All things valuable and meaningful are the ends of human striving, never what is effortlessly attained.

The meaning of our lives are the small pearls in the ocean of our experience.

Now if experience were to be infinite, and all the things of our desires readily available, as is the case in the heaven of the Abrahamic religion, then tell me, what distinguishes the valuable and the meaningful from the mundane and worthless?
 

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Many people, philosophers asked this question...and I think the ultimate and most beautifully expressed atheistic point of view is that of Albert Camus. Check his works.

Just took a sneak at his view. It's actually more insightful than I imagined.
 

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for me life isn't worth living if it has an end, as it is not existing in reality. if you were dead for an eternity, and will return to death for an eternity, then living 1s isn't worth it, its not even life. it's like if you take a number let's say 1.000.000 and multiply by 0, it remains a 0.

life isn't worth living if the ultimate truth is death, absolute death and void an nothingness.

Actually your maths is a little off. Although in actual fact you would be dead for eternity and our current life is nothing in comparison to eternity, it would actually be like you lived forever because as soon as you are dead you can't even comprehend that you're not existing. The only thing you will know about is life and that will be 100% of what you know because you won't be concious to experience nothingness.
 

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Actually your maths is a little off. Although in actual fact you would be dead for eternity and our current life is nothing in comparison to eternity, it would actually be like you lived forever because as soon as you are dead you can't even comprehend that you're not existing. The only thing you will know about is life and that will be 100% of what you know because you won't be concious to experience nothingness.

previous life doesn't and never existed and nothing exists to the dead who is nothing, I think it's simple. why my math is a litlle of ? lol
everything is dead, nothing exists if there is nothing after death.
 
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