[Discussion] Regarding Tobirama and Minato

[voids]

Hello all, so after reading the latest chapter, I've come to the conclusion that both Tobirama are equals in the usage of the fly thunder god technique.

Here me out please, do not flame yet, wait until the end for that.

The FTG technique allows the instant teleportation of the user to a mark object whether that be a kunai or another person. Notice how I say instant, therefore, how can Minato's FTG be more instant than Tobirama's? It cant because it's equal.

Therefore now it comes to the two individual personal abilities.

Tobirama:

He was able to grab obito's attack and use FTG to teleport behind Obito, proceding to attack him, only using a clone.
Not only this he was able to mark himself and tobirama and perform possibly one of the coolest tag team moves I have seen in this current Obito fight. Relfex wise Tobi was able to mark Obito without anyone noticing, not even Obito himself.

Minato:

He was able to save the alliance from the ten tails as he arrived, via the use of the mark on Bee. His creation of a barrier due to work of marked kunai and clones. Furthermore his usage of kunai as means of using FTG is superb and without a doubt extremely effective in combat. Minato has shown so great reflex feats most noticable against the eight tails, whereby, the former marked the latter tentacle.
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However, could Tobirama theoretically speaking, not do the same as Minato regarding the usage of the kunai? Let's say that Tobirama coul mark the kunai like he did with Minato, could he not replicate what Minato does, with putting seals around the kunai?

These two individuals are quite evenly matched and I think the tipping scale will be when we see how powerful Tobirama is with his water techniques.

 

[Lord Naruto San]

Hashirama Minato Tobimara 3rd kage Tsuande

 

[Headmaster]

Hashirama Minato Tobimara 3rd kage Tsuande

No tsunade beats 3rd hokage

 

[realobito1]

Yes, you are correct. This is hugely insulting to minato. He was famous for a technique that is not even original to him. It does not take away from the jutsu but it does take away from the character minato

 

[benzy]

I Agree FTG Speed are Equal but . Minato > Tobirama in every aspect mate . Minato can use kunai for his FTG since Tobirama cant . Tobirama said Minato's Shuuhin is better then his one (Shuushin = Foot SPeed , Body Flicker) Obito slahed tobirama since he was able only to cut minato's hand.

 

[voids]

Hashirama Minato Tobimara 3rd kage Tsuande

That's not what I'm getting at, but okay :eww:

 

[voids]

I Agree FTG Speed are Equal but . Minato > Tobirama in every aspect mate . Minato can use kunai for his FTG since Tobirama cant . Tobirama said Minato's Shuuhin is better then his one (Shuushin = Foot SPeed , Body Flicker) Obito slahed tobirama since he was able only to cut minato's hand.

That's what I pointed out in the thread. Could Tobirama not mark a kunai like he did with Minato and have exactly the same effect as Minato has with his seal marked kunai?

 

[benzy]

That's what I pointed out in the thread. Could Tobirama not mark a kunai like he did with Minato and have exactly the same effect as Minato has with his seal marked kunai?

Well I guess the Seals on Minato's Kunai are from Special Uzumaki seals or i dont know but since Tobirama is not using them Minato FTG is more variative but FTG speed is Equal no matter who uses it.

 

[6PathsofKami]

I Agree FTG Speed are Equal but . Minato > Tobirama in every aspect mate . Minato can use kunai for his FTG since Tobirama cant . Tobirama said Minato's Shuuhin is better then his one (Shuushin = Foot SPeed , Body Flicker) Obito slahed tobirama since he was able only to cut minato's hand.

Yeah he could use it if he want's it's just that he didn't think about using the technique like that but Minato did, it doesn't mean Tobirama can't use it like that.

 

[NarutoChangeSasuke]

I think minato is a little better with ftg as he developed it more and he uses it more often.

 

[UchihaKira]

Tobirama has already stated that Minato is superior in using it. He wouldnt say that if it wasnt true, especially considering his personality. Although that doesnt mean Tobirama isnt quite adept as well. Whats with the Tobirama fanboys and this chapter?

 

[AllomnisymbolsparttwoT]

Tobirama certainly excels minato, in the sense he touches someone while Minato uses a kunai thus surpasses minato :I

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

In theory, Tobirama should be able to do practically anything Minato can with it.

However, Minato has devoted his entire combat style to revolve around it so most likely Minato is better/more versatile st using it.

The only possible problem would be if their different seal designs do make a difference...otherwise Tobirama can basically do exactly what Minato does with it.

 

[voids]

Tobirama has already stated that Minato is superior in using it. He wouldnt say that if it wasnt true, especially considering his personality. Although that doesnt mean Tobirama isnt quite adept as well. Whats with the Tobirama fanboys and this chapter?

Tobirama stated Minato was superior in using Shunshin no Jutsu (body flicker technique) not the flying thunder god technique, so get your facts right. Furthermore, I'm not a fanboy and just posting what I have observed by the two and coming to my own conclusion. Though I doubt you will listen much.

 

[Draxus]

Tobirama also seems to be able to teleport without seals somehow. For instance how did he get there to teleport the mini-bijuudama?

When Tobirama said Minato's FTG was faster than his, I think he meant that Minato's great reflexes and chakra control made it possible to use the ability quicker than he could.

 

[CrowNoJutsu]

It's not a fact that Tobirama can do the same thing minato does with his kunais, because it hasn't been stated. We also don't know if the different seals mean anything in terms of technique usage.

And even if Tobirama could do the same thing, I believe Minato has more experience with using kunais for the hiraishin technique and developed more strategies for using it. He used it in a lot of battles and knows exactly how to keep it versatile.

 

[thegame]

I think you are correct. Kishi finally showed us, what Tobirama can really do. Finally a chapter, that I truly enjoyed. It was quite amazing tbh. The combined attack was completely unpredictable and it was cool, that tobirama placed a tag on obito when they last were in contact. Proves that he knew, his last kinda "weak" jutsu wouldn't harm him, and he thus used it for something entirely different, mainly to place a tag on him.

 

[OopsWrongHole]

Great thread mate

 

[voids]

Great thread mate

Thank you

 

[Modaro]

Hello all, so after reading the latest chapter, I've come to the conclusion that both Tobirama are equals in the usage of the fly thunder god technique.

Here me out please, do not flame yet, wait until the end for that.

The FTG technique allows the instant teleportation of the user to a mark object whether that be a kunai or another person. Notice how I say instant, therefore, how can Minato's FTG be more instant than Tobirama's? It cant because it's equal.

Therefore now it comes to the two individual personal abilities.

Tobirama:

He was able to grab obito's attack and use FTG to teleport behind Obito, proceding to attack him, only using a clone.
Not only this he was able to mark himself and tobirama and perform possibly one of the coolest tag team moves I have seen in this current Obito fight. Relfex wise Tobi was able to mark Obito without anyone noticing, not even Obito himself.

Minato:

He was able to save the alliance from the ten tails as he arrived, via the use of the mark on Bee. His creation of a barrier due to work of marked kunai and clones. Furthermore his usage of kunai as means of using FTG is superb and without a doubt extremely effective in combat. Minato has shown so great reflex feats most noticable against the eight tails, whereby, the former marked the latter tentacle.
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

However, could Tobirama theoretically speaking, not do the same as Minato regarding the usage of the kunai? Let's say that Tobirama coul mark the kunai like he did with Minato, could he not replicate what Minato does, with putting seals around the kunai?

These two individuals are quite evenly matched and I think the tipping scale will be when we see how powerful Tobirama is with his water techniques.

Tobirama clearly stated minato was faster

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