Regarding the Hashirama Vs Madara dispute.

[Flawž]

SM hashirama > EMS madara and Kyuubi - Already happened.

SM hashirama > Edo madara - SM hashirama not at full power immobilized Edo madara.

SM hashirama > Blind Madara with sage mode - blind..

SM Rinnegan madara > hashirama. - This is where Madara truely surpassed hashirama.

 

[- J AV -]

I completely agree......

 

[Naijakid]

Madara needed 3000 powerups to surpass Hashirama

 

[Flawž]

I completely agree......

Nice.

Madara needed 3000 powerups to surpass Hashirama

Indeed.

 

[SanjiNL]

I agree. 10chars

 

[spckoroma]

I still don't think he is 100% SM but he has surpassed him

 

[FlemSmack]

I agree that SM Rinnegan Madara will be shown to be stronger than SM Hashirama, but that it hasn't happened yet.

SM Hashirama would have embarrassed the Bijuus just as easily as Madara just did.

I find it strange that Hashirama was so much stronger than Madara was when they were both alive.

Madara wasn't much of a rival when Hashirama was clearly in a league of his own.

 

[The Sach]

Agree with everything except 2nd.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Of course, the guy with the stolen power is going to be alot stronger than the person he stoled power from, so i agree.

 

[Bronze]

SM hashirama > EMS madara and Kyuubi - Already happened.

SM hashirama < Edo madara -

SM hashirama > Blind Madara with sage mode - blind..

SM Rinnegan madara > hashirama.

There. Fixed it for you...no need to thank me

 

[RikudouMadara]

I disagree on Edo Madara being weaker, by Viz translation Madara wasn't trying because he was bored. He didn't even consider it a real fight.

Imho it goes like this.

Current Madara>Edo Madara>Alive Hashirama>EMS Madara>Edo Hashirama

 

[Xēnovia.]

Oh, boy here we go KingHashirama vs MadaraRules who will be the victor?! Stay tune next time on DragonBall Z...

 

[Flakez]

Indeed, Madara would've never gotten so strong if it wasn't for Hashirama.

 

[SIR UZMAKIMADARA]

nice thread dude madara with rinnegan + SM + mokuton = SM Hashirama EMS madara < base hashirama EDO madara with rinnegan + mokuton < SM hashirama U_U

 

[KingHashirama]

The last one hasn't happened in the manga

On top of that when someone surpassed Hashirama, its stated in the manga. Because by this logic, we are claiming Madara > Rikudou, because he was SM + Rinnegan.... makes no sense.

Sure I would agree, if its actually showed in the manga how he surpassed him. Or if he surpassed him. Otherwise its just a baseless claim like the one people made before about Edo Madara > Edo Hashirama.

I mean Hashirama having to be restrained and put down, for Madara to be alive and be a threat should already tell us something..

 

[Minator93]

I still believe that Alive SM Hashirama is above Current Madara. About the rest, well I agree completely

 

[Ovan]

It's pretty sad but true. xD Hashirama dead and people still trying to get on his level.

 

[Senju Bean]

The last one hasn't happened in the manga

On top of that when someone surpassed Hashirama, its stated in the manga. Because by this logic, we are claiming Madara > Rikudou, because he was SM + Rinnegan.... makes no sense.

Sure I would agree, if its actually showed in the manga how he surpassed him. Or if he surpassed him. Otherwise its just a baseless claim like the one people made before about Edo Madara > Edo Hashirama.

I mean Hashirama having to be restrained and put down, for Madara to be alive and be a threat should already tell us something..

He got stabbed by those rods fair and square.

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[FlemSmack]

He got stabbed by those rods fair and square.

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He never would have been able to subdue Hashirama like that if Naruto and Sasuke hadn't defeated Juubito.

Edo Madara lost to Edo Hashirama.

Madara even thanked Naruto for his help.

 

[Avinash012]

I agree with u.