Regarding shisui uchia's defeat

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How can shisui who has such an OP mangekyo ability lose to danzo or anyone for that matter.

So many people say its a one hit kill but if thats true how did danzo steal his eye and if it was a one hit kill shouldnt people have feared him more then minato and itachi but he is barely even talked about
 

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The eye might have been in cooldown.

Remember, you can only use that technique once every 10 ten years, unless you have Hashirama's DNA.
 

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How can shisui who has such an OP mangekyo ability lose to danzo or anyone for that matter.

So many people say its a one hit kill but if thats true how did danzo steal his eye and if it was a one hit kill shouldnt people have feared him more then minato and itachi but he is barely even talked about
He didn't want to fight Danzo because he's his superior, and Shisui is a non-violent ninja, oh btw since his body is "missing" he could probably still be alive.
 

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He didn't want to fight Danzo because he's his superior, and Shisui is a non-violent ninja, oh btw since his body is "missing" he could probably still be alive.
This is not the case. Small thread I made about the issue at the time:


Danzo took Shisui's eye by force we can tell because he was beat up and his eye was still bleeding.

The most probable thing that Shisui was planning to use KA on the leader of the Coup d'etat and might of been on his way and then he was ambushed by Anbu, Danzo and anbu or just Danzo what ever you believed.

But they did not defeat Shisui and only managed to obtain his right eye but Shisui escaped. That is why he said "He will probably try and get my left eye as well"

If he gave Danzo his right eye he wouldn't say "Danzo stole my right eye" It is so obvious so can will please stop saying he gave it to Danzo willingly. Also if he gave it to Danzo why would he say "He will probably try and get my left eye as well"
 

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This is not the case. Small thread I made about the issue at the time:


Danzo took Shisui's eye by force we can tell because he was beat up and his eye was still bleeding.

The most probable thing that Shisui was planning to use KA on the leader of the Coup d'etat and might of been on his way and then he was ambushed by Anbu, Danzo and anbu or just Danzo what ever you believed.

But they did not defeat Shisui and only managed to obtain his right eye but Shisui escaped. That is why he said "He will probably try and get my left eye as well"

If he gave Danzo his right eye he wouldn't say "Danzo stole my right eye" It is so obvious so can will please stop saying he gave it to Danzo willingly. Also if he gave it to Danzo why would he say "He will probably try and get my left eye as well"
I didn't say he gave it willingly what I meant was he didn't "lose" to them because he was weak but rather he may not have wanted to retaliate with brute force against his superior and fellow ANBUs thus resulting in the loss of his eye.
 

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I didn't say he gave it willingly what I meant was he didn't "lose" to them because he was weak but rather he may not have wanted to retaliate with brute force against his superior and fellow ANBUs thus resulting in the loss of his eye.
Lol I doubt he let them ruff him up and take his eye, that would be so lame. Like bullies in the play ground.

But anyway another thread I made at the time (I use to make a lott of threads) of why shisui lost yes but people should really cut him some slack (These posts ain't directed at you but its about the same topic kind of so good to post, so mainly this post is for the OP but I don't want to double post:



Guys are saying shisui is weak because danzo and however many of his anbu defeated him and managed to take is right eye but I think we have to remember how old and inexperience shisui was.

Also they didn't even manage to kill shisui, shisui managed to hold them of and escape which is why he feared danzo coming back to finish the job.

Why are people acting like danzo is some fodder, he was on the same team as hiruzen which as lead by the second hokage just by this we can see he is not some weak shinobi.

Also I would like to add were talking about danzo, would danzo ever play fair and have a fair one on one battle with shisui.

When danzo wants something he does it the dirty way so I am sure he had some tricks up his sleeve and also other anbu members with him.

So for the fact shisui survived against danzo and his anbu combined with his young age and danzo's age and dirty ways of doing things I think we all have to cut shisui some slack.

If it wasn't for plot no jutsu sasuke would of lost his head, when danzo had sasuke paralyzed and in a sate where he can not move, instead of killing him then and there why would you give a speech about itachi :sy:

Anyway guys I think because we saw shisui beat up and actually injured we were surprised but let's not forget who danzo is and how he plays.

Do you agree?
 

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Lol I doubt he let them ruff him up and take his eye, that would be so lame. Like bullies in the play ground.

But anyway another thread I made at the time (I use to make a lott of threads) of why shisui lost yes but people should really cut him some slack (These posts ain't directed at you but its about the same topic kind of so good to post, so mainly this post is for the OP but I don't want to double post:



Guys are saying shisui is weak because danzo and however many of his anbu defeated him and managed to take is right eye but I think we have to remember how old and inexperience shisui was.

Also they didn't even manage to kill shisui, shisui managed to hold them of and escape which is why he feared danzo coming back to finish the job.

Why are people acting like danzo is some fodder, he was on the same team as hiruzen which as lead by the second hokage just by this we can see he is not some weak shinobi.

Also I would like to add were talking about danzo, would danzo ever play fair and have a fair one on one battle with shisui.

When danzo wants something he does it the dirty way so I am sure he had some tricks up his sleeve and also other anbu members with him.

So for the fact shisui survived against danzo and his anbu combined with his young age and danzo's age and dirty ways of doing things I think we all have to cut shisui some slack.

If it wasn't for plot no jutsu sasuke would of lost his head, when danzo had sasuke paralyzed and in a sate where he can not move, instead of killing him then and there why would you give a speech about itachi :sy:

Anyway guys I think because we saw shisui beat up and actually injured we were surprised but let's not forget who danzo is and how he plays.

Do you agree?
Yes indeed, Danzo is no small fry, he was in Team Tobirama afterall, and like I said him being Shisui's superior played an important psychological part in Shisui's defeat.
 

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Yes indeed, Danzo is no small fry, he was in Team Tobirama afterall, and like I said him being Shisui's superior played an important psychological part in Shisui's defeat.
True as well, as it would itachi at that time as well if he was in the same situation. From itachi bowingto hiruzen we can see the respect people like itachi and shisui give to their superiors. They bow to danzo as well.
 
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I am not saying shisui is weak I am saying with a jutsu like KA and all of its hype no one should have beat him Danzo with all the Anbu or not it doesn't really sense

Even if he did respect danzo if someone was trying to kill shisui and take his eye I am pretty sure shisui would fight back
 

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I am not saying shisui is weak I am saying with a jutsu like KA and all of its hype no one should have beat him Danzo with all the Anbu or not it doesn't really sense

Even if he did respect danzo if someone was trying to kill shisui and take his eye I am pretty sure shisui would fight back
Read my post, I said he did fight back but you should cut him some slack for the reasons I have stated.

Also you need to remember he needed to save KA to stop the Coup d'etat. So he couldn't use it in the fight.
 

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i'd say he gave Danzo his eye :) I wouldn't be surprised about it.... he probably got that as an order from Danzo... just like Itachi had his orders from Danzo + Hokage and elders
 

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Post #6 shows that "hey danzo, have my eye" was not the case.
if u look at him you'll see he's bleeding out of his eye but other then that he's completely fine.. I refuse to believe after Danzo fought with the likes of Shisui he'll be able to just pluck out of his eye without looking torn to shreds and bleeding all over..

also that could be a translation fail :p i'm still not sure.. some people even believe Shisui is still alive :) just without eyes
 

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Read my post, I said he did fight back but you should cut him some slack for the reasons I have stated.

Also you need to remember he needed to save KA to stop the Coup d'etat. So he couldn't use it in the fight.
Agreed, it takes a decade to use it again without Hashi cells, he needed to save it for something more important
 
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