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This has become quite the hot topic, and the hype train has split the fanbase. Some say it, along with the 4th DB, is proof that Madara can use susanoo with his limbos. I'm here to establish why that's not exactly valid.
People know that the Storm games aren't a legit source to draw a conclusion, as it exaggerates the abilities of all the characters to make the gameplay more epic. This is, of course, why they also try to use the 4th databook.
People portray their interpretation as fact by using the statement that "Limbos have the same ability as the original," as a way of saying that "of course they use susanoo, it's something that Madara has." However, what's important to realize is that this isn't inherently a statement that a limbo can do everything the original can do. Clones in general are degraded versions of the original. Limbo comes in as a perfect copy of Madara instead of a clone that's weaker than him. This likely applies only to taijutsu and not ninjutsu.
Why they can only use taijutsu:
Let's look at the actual definition of Limbo(ignore the hyperbole).
How does this matter? Well, the shadows are created by the Rinnegan effecting an adjacent dimension. Aka, these are not individual bodies with their own chakra, but rather, a dimensional refraction.
The best comparison is Tsubame Gaeshi from Fate/Stay Night.
Like Tsubame Gaeshi, Limbo is replicating something through different dimensions to exist simultaneously. The limbos are not separate Madara's, but rather, inter-dimensional reflections of himself manipulated like puppets. They have no chakra, no ninjutsu, only one's physical existence being replicated.
Additionally, it wouldn't make a lot of sense for Madara's Limbos to have every jutsu he has.
Tell me. If any Limbo can use PS, please, by all means, come up with a rational explanation as to why he'd sick 4 shadows towards Naruto's clones instead of using susanoo immediately to crush the clones? Why wouldn't he send 1 for the clones, and 3 against Sasuke in order to occupy him as well? 1PS would fall against 3PS very, very fast, so his attempt to buy time would have been even more efficient. Answer, the limbos can't use PS.
Is it possible for limbos to use PS? Yes, but it's a very low probability given that its definition doesn't exactly sound like it could, it's a huge plothole if we didn't see it before, and that Storm 4 is innovative in making jutsus look better, and be more powerful than they actually were in the mnaga. The databook and Storm 4 are indicators, nothing more, nothing less. Limbos using PS is not conclusively proven in any way, and shouldn't be treated as such.
People know that the Storm games aren't a legit source to draw a conclusion, as it exaggerates the abilities of all the characters to make the gameplay more epic. This is, of course, why they also try to use the 4th databook.
People portray their interpretation as fact by using the statement that "Limbos have the same ability as the original," as a way of saying that "of course they use susanoo, it's something that Madara has." However, what's important to realize is that this isn't inherently a statement that a limbo can do everything the original can do. Clones in general are degraded versions of the original. Limbo comes in as a perfect copy of Madara instead of a clone that's weaker than him. This likely applies only to taijutsu and not ninjutsu.
Why they can only use taijutsu:
Let's look at the actual definition of Limbo(ignore the hyperbole).
Wheel Grave: Border Jail (輪墓・辺獄, Rinbo: Hengoku)
Heading: Perceiving this phantom is impossible, the enemies unpreparedness invites disaster.
→ The Rinnegan can shape one shadow.
↑ With a complete set of two Rinnegan it can shape 4.
A person who posses the Rinnegan can intervene in an adjacent world, an extremely distance world. In that space a shadow is produced, which everyone who is connected with the current world can't feel. Not only will the technique user gain a duplicate of himself with equal ability, but it will also be invisible. Squaring of against a user, counter attack is impossible, going up against this ability will result in one losing against such a powerful enemy.
→ When fighting the enemy in close combat the shadow will stay away. But after a time the shadow will return.
Heading: Perceiving this phantom is impossible, the enemies unpreparedness invites disaster.
→ The Rinnegan can shape one shadow.
↑ With a complete set of two Rinnegan it can shape 4.
A person who posses the Rinnegan can intervene in an adjacent world, an extremely distance world. In that space a shadow is produced, which everyone who is connected with the current world can't feel. Not only will the technique user gain a duplicate of himself with equal ability, but it will also be invisible. Squaring of against a user, counter attack is impossible, going up against this ability will result in one losing against such a powerful enemy.
→ When fighting the enemy in close combat the shadow will stay away. But after a time the shadow will return.
How does this matter? Well, the shadows are created by the Rinnegan effecting an adjacent dimension. Aka, these are not individual bodies with their own chakra, but rather, a dimensional refraction.
The best comparison is Tsubame Gaeshi from Fate/Stay Night.
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Like Tsubame Gaeshi, Limbo is replicating something through different dimensions to exist simultaneously. The limbos are not separate Madara's, but rather, inter-dimensional reflections of himself manipulated like puppets. They have no chakra, no ninjutsu, only one's physical existence being replicated.
Additionally, it wouldn't make a lot of sense for Madara's Limbos to have every jutsu he has.
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Tell me. If any Limbo can use PS, please, by all means, come up with a rational explanation as to why he'd sick 4 shadows towards Naruto's clones instead of using susanoo immediately to crush the clones? Why wouldn't he send 1 for the clones, and 3 against Sasuke in order to occupy him as well? 1PS would fall against 3PS very, very fast, so his attempt to buy time would have been even more efficient. Answer, the limbos can't use PS.
Is it possible for limbos to use PS? Yes, but it's a very low probability given that its definition doesn't exactly sound like it could, it's a huge plothole if we didn't see it before, and that Storm 4 is innovative in making jutsus look better, and be more powerful than they actually were in the mnaga. The databook and Storm 4 are indicators, nothing more, nothing less. Limbos using PS is not conclusively proven in any way, and shouldn't be treated as such.
