Regarding Asura and Indra

[Faiznarmi]

Don't you guys think it's kinda ironic on how Asura (supposedly to be the monster or bad in Hindu mythology) are depicted as good in Naruto and Indra which is the leader of Gods in Hindu myth are depicted as bad ?

This could lead to a theory, but I don't want to waste my time here.

 

[IcedFox]

You assume it could lead to a theory, but you obviously have your own, don't you?

 

[Silent Phantom]

Well the SO6P kept entrusting everything to Ashura and look how that has turned out over every reincarnation.

 

[Itachi 4 life]

Well tbh Madara is the only good guy in NV. Naruto is the bad guy. It's just that he's the protagonist. Naruto wants to lead the world back into Darness and poverty

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Well tbh Madara is the only good guy in NV. Naruto is the bad guy. It's just that he's the protagonist. Naruto wants to lead the world back into Darness and poverty

When fan logic is used everything said from that point on is pointless and is therefore ignored as dreamism yup made that up.

 

[Itachi 4 life]

When fan logic is used everything said from that point on is pointless and is therefore ignored as dreamism yup made that up.

Madara is the savior of the world. He cast IT. Naruto wants to break IT and thus bring the world back into misery,poverty,death. Madara freed it from all that. But since Naruto doesn't want something, everyone must suffer.

 

[Erebus]

I can't really remember the detail, but Asura wasn't 'bad' per se

 

[Faiznarmi]

I got my theory but don't feel like putting it into a thread.
There's something missing here and I hope Kishi makes it up.
Plus, I want to see your opinion about it.

 

[Faiznarmi]

I got my theory but don't feel like putting it into a thread.
There's something missing here and I hope Kishi makes it up.
Plus, I want to see your opinion about it.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

Madara is the savior of the world. He cast IT. Naruto wants to break IT and thus bring the world back into misery,poverty,death. Madara freed it from all that. But since Naruto doesn't want something, everyone must suffer.

Those people in IT are having their life sucked from them every second they are cast in it and sooner or later will turn into those White Zetsu things, Madara wanted peace but all that happened once they were cast in IT was they were made into these things that were going to be used as clones for an army

 

[Itachi 4 life]

Those people in IT are having their life sucked from them every second they are cast in it and sooner or later will turn into those White Zetsu things, Madara wanted peace but all that happened once they were cast in IT was they were made into these things that were going to be used as clones for an army

And it takes like what? A liftetime to turn into WZ. And what happens when u spend a lifetime outside IT? You die and rot .

 

[Faiznarmi]

I can't really remember the detail, but Asura wasn't 'bad' per se

The Asura avatar with 4 hands is Raavana, the main antagonist in the Hindu mythology.
They were good originally but turned bad.
Kinda fishy on why Kishi used Asura as the depiction of good and Indra as bad.

 

[UzumakiRyu]

And it takes like what? A liftetime to turn into WZ. And what happens when u spend a lifetime outside IT? You die and rot .

Madara was manipulated because of what he wanted to achieve by both BZ and Kaguya though he was pure in his desire for peace the reality does not match the desire.

 

[Itachi 4 life]

Madara was manipulated because of what he wanted to achieve by both BZ and Kaguya though he was pure in his desire for peace the reality does not match the desire.

He wasn't manipulated per se. He did all those things because he wanted to. And he was the savior. He manged what he wanted. Everyone is at peace. Manga scans confirmed that.He did exactly what Kaguya wanted him but on his own will. He is the true savior.Naruto has no right to get in way of people's hapinnes

 

[UzumakiRyu]

He wasn't manipulated per se. He did all those things because he wanted to. And he was the savior. He manged what he wanted. Everyone is at peace. Manga scans confirmed that.He did exactly what Kaguya wanted him but on his own will. He is the true savior.Naruto has no right to get in way of people's hapinnes

No that is not happiness it is a fake reality created by the Shinju to disillusion them long enough so that they can be used and created into the army of White Zetsu. Manga confirmed as much. They are not at peace they are all in a stalk each one of them being eaten away slowly until they turn.

True peace is when of their own free will can live their life as they see fit and not dictated to them through false illusions.

 

[Itachi 4 life]

No that is not happiness it is a fake reality created by the Shinju to disillusion them long enough so that they can be used and created into the army of White Zetsu. Manga confirmed as much. They are not at peace they are all in a stalk each one of them being eaten away slowly until they turn.

True peace is when of their own free will can live their life as they see fit and not dictated to them through false illusions.

Peace by one's will cannot be attained. This one was and is attained. They are being eaten slowly, but it takes a long time,like 100+years, maybe more. Outside IT they are still being eaten slowly by bacteria,viruses etc. Aging process, they would all die and rot and have their glassy dead eyeballs eaten by maggots. Kids like pre Zabuza Haku would have to beg to eat, homeless people starving , Shinobi having their families killed in wars crying, kids like Sasuke had to experience.All of that.IT prevents all that.Nobody starves.Nobody's at war. Nobody's killing eachother(Lee being an exception, he kinda killed Naruto I think). And in 100 +years they get turned into a WZ. Now tell me which one is better.

 

[ninjarasengan]

Don't you guys think it's kinda ironic on how Asura (supposedly to be the monster or bad in Hindu mythology) are depicted as good in Naruto and Indra which is the leader of Gods in Hindu myth are depicted as bad ?

This could lead to a theory, but I don't want to waste my time here.

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asura, ( Sanskrit: “divine”) Iranian ahura, in Hindu mythology, class of beings defined by their opposition to the devas or suras (gods). The term asura appears first in the Vedas, a collection of poems and hymns composed 1500–1200 bce, and refers to a human or divine leader. Its plural form gradually predominated and came to designate a class of beings opposed to the Vedic gods. Later the asuras came to be understood as demons. This pattern was reversed in Iran, where ahura came to mean the supreme god and the daevas became demons. In Hindu mythology, the asuras and the devas together sought to obtain amrita (elixir of immortality) by churning the milky ocean. Although they had agreed to share the amrita, strife broke out over its possession, which led to a never-ending conflict.

Maybe Naruto as Ashura represents a human(Champion/Leader of humanity) or divine leader opposed to oppression by gods(Nagato, Obito, Madara, and possibly Sasuke after his power-up)

 

[maniaoqan]

Kishi just uses them as inspiration you know. He's not just copy-pasting them.

 

[IcedFox]

The Asura avatar with 4 hands is Raavana, the main antagonist in the Hindu mythology.
They were good originally but turned bad.
Kinda fishy on why Kishi used Asura as the depiction of good and Indra as bad.

Good turned bad.

There you could already have your answer, and come on man, I'm curious.
You just said you had your own idea, please do share.

Also, I got neg repped for the first comment I made. I lol'd

 

[Faiznarmi]

Good turned bad.

There you could already have your answer, and come on man, I'm curious.
You just said you had your own idea, please do share.

Also, I got neg repped for the first comment I made. I lol'd

Certainly not me hahaha. Maybe later after I gather some more evidence.
But I'm afraid that it'll be regarded as a troll thread lol