[Discussion] Regarding America and School Shootings

[Dafuq]

Once you have enough anger/balls to shoot someone with the intent of killing, then you are damn well capable of stabbing them too, and vice versa.

Excursively to normal people btw

Except. Psychopaths don't feel with the "intent" to kill. Because they don't feel anything. The only time a psychopath will retreat or not do anything is when they are in danger themselves. A regular school shooter would never put himself in that kind of position to try and stab someone unless he was extremely confident he could come out on top.

And even so, so a guy stabs 1 person. What's that in comparison to killing 10s or 50+ people with an automatic weapon? Can you at least see the difference here?

 

[Dafuq]

People need to realize that with more guns in America than people currently, how dafuq do u propose we take their guns out of commission? I'm all for having strict ass regulations but its a dying cause because of how badly america f*cked up already.

I'm honestly not sure. I feel as if its not my job to figure those details out. Would make an interesting discussion none the less.

 

[Dafuq]

Or do some yearly mental health check on people to see if they are stable, particularly if they either have a gun or wants own one for self-defense one day.

Mental Health Checks as in what? You do realize someone who was planning/intending to shoot up some place would do their best to hide it right? Elliot Rodger is a good example here. The Cops said he was a good kid and was polite a couple of days before he went out and killed people.

 

[Dark Sonic]

Mental Health Checks as in what? You do realize someone who was planning/intending to shoot up some place would do their best to hide it right? Elliot Rodger is a good example here. The Cops said he was a good kid and was polite a couple of days before he went out and killed people.

Good point but honestly there has to be one solution that can be effective for once. Taking guns away most likely isn't one of them.

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

I'm honestly not sure. I feel as if its not my job to figure those details out. Would make an interesting discussion none the less.

I see your ignoring my comment the one where i called out for talking about something you clearly know nothing about.

Then again why would i expect an moron to suddenly listen to reason.


Not only do you not have the details you're brain from what you showed so far doe not hold the necessary chambers to withhold such information.


If you want to actually inform yourself there is plenty of sites you can visit for such statistics.But,alas since you also know nothing about the politics or general regulations from state to state its pretty much pointless unless you are actually going to school to study these subjects.


But,yeah keep on keeping on with your pseudo intellectual talk.


People who do know a lick about this subject and the general overall population of America will continue to collectively laugh at you and you're attempt to seem smarter then you are

 

[Dafuq]

Good point but honestly there has to be one solution that can be effective for once. Taking guns away most likely isn't one of them.

I'm not looking for a solution though. There is no solution. It's not possible to stop it. However removing the guns is one massive step in reducing it.

 

[Tantalus Thief]

Switzerland has some of the highest gun ownership rates in the world but is firearm homocide rate is very low. I think it depends on much more than just guns.

 

[Natsu Shazneel]

Guns should require a license.

OT: My friend Jon Snow is not a pedophile.

 

[Pyro NB]

OT: And no. Stop blaming America as a "****ed up Society. No its ****ing not. It's nothing to do with mental illness. It's the GUNS. We have people with mental illnesses here in the EU too, but they don't have access to guns, and are too chicken to do it with a knife themselves. So they don't do anything. People in the US do. That's the difference.

America is seriously ****ed up just look at the history on how we became America. If the people here wanted someone dead they will find a way to do it no matter what weapon is around guns are just convenient and easy way to do so.

It's because they feel that guns are for protection. Apparently that makes it justified. Funny how america might have less robberies if it had less guns.

People get robbed over here all the time and most of the time they just snatch and run or pretend to have a weapon. So taking away guns won't solve that problem.

Shooting someone takes about as much balls and retardness as stabbing someone, the later is simply less violent. Banning guns won't do shit, countries with the least violence rates still get guns in their schools somehow, you just can't escape that autistic behavior, it merely tends to be more "apparent" in murica though.

Switzerland has some of the highest gun ownership rates in the world but is firearm homocide rate is very low. I think it depends on much more than just guns.

It's also mandatory that it's citizens serve some time in the military and I believe they have strict ammo regulations.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Except. Psychopaths don't feel with the "intent" to kill. Because they don't feel anything. The only time a psychopath will retreat or not do anything is when they are in danger themselves. A regular school shooter would never put himself in that kind of position to try and stab someone unless he was extremely confident he could come out on top.

And even so, so a guy stabs 1 person. What's that in comparison to killing 10s or 50+ people with an automatic weapon? Can you at least see the difference here?

LMAO assuming only psychopaths shoot schools, and 1 person can definitely stab multiple people before getting caught

 

[DeadManWonderLand]

I'm not looking for a solution though. There is no solution. It's not possible to stop it. However removing the guns is one massive step in reducing it.

Not looking for a solution...there is no solution ?......One massive step in reducing it ? So now there is a solution ?

You are two kinds of stupid boi lol

 

[Ansatsuken]

Banning guns. It will not solved Shooting problem especially in Country like USA.

And for me shooting someone doesnt take to much balls compare to stabbing. Just push the trigger and let it go.

 

[Aim64C]

Yeah they will find a way. Except. Now they don't have to find a way at all. Just lift daddies gun and shoot up their school/church. The situation is that, people will kill, but people kill less when they don't have access to guns legally. Notice how in the EU, this kind of shit doesn't happen anywhere near as often as the US?

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Objectively, this happens more in Europe than in the U.S.

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Of course, analyzing the different parts of America is also interesting:

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" Overall, about a third of all Americans with children under 18 at home have a gun in their household, including 34% of families with children younger than 12. That’s nearly identical to the share of childless adults or those with older children who have a firearm at home.

The new research also suggests a paradox: While blacks are significantly more likely than whites to be gun homicide victims, blacks are only about half as likely as whites to have a firearm in their home (41% vs. 19%). Hispanics are less likely than blacks to be gun homicide victims and half as likely as whites to have a gun at home (20%). "

Frankly, it isn't a paradox.

My internet is doing something unusual at the moment, and seems to be destroyed by pictures - but when you compare gun control laws to incidence of firearm homicide - you see that the areas with the greatest amounts of firearm homicide have the most strict firearm control laws.

Then there is, also, the elephant in the room that everyone seems to be forgetting.

All of these shootings have occurred in gun-free zones.

Compare to deaths or murders at shooting ranges. Yes, they do happen - but yearly deaths at shooting ranges nationwide compare to the average weekend in Chicago - a district with some of the most strict firearms controls in the U.S.

 

[BlazeRelease]

Only cops should have access to guns. NO you can not protect yourself and family, unless you are a certified induvidual. If you want to play valiant hero, obtain the training and credentials to prove you are e caption all enough to bear arms; having it as a basic right grants gun access to anyone.

Its like; why the **** are you allowing the criminals easy access to weapons so that you can protect your family with those same weapons? Why not just do what you can to take their weapons away? Less weapons in circulation will lower not only the chance of a criminal obtaining a gun, but in some cases make it impossible.

No, average citizens can't "protect" themselves from criminals, that's why we have police officers. And NO you can NOT allow guns just so "you can protect yourself in an immediate circumstance!" Because that scenario alone is only caused because people can even access guns.

Citizens wanting guns is a paradox. They want guns to protect themselves from other guns, but they are the reason they need protection in the first place. Because average citizens aren't responsible enough. Yes, that is correct, YOU are too stupid as an average citizen to be allowed to have an easy use deadly weapon.

Just look at other places like Australia. Their citizens don't need to be armed because they have a successful police force, and they don't have guns in every Damn house in the country.

One more problem I have; why the hell do people think that citizens should have guns anyways? Like, what in the actual **** would we have a police force for if we expected citizens to fight crime themselves? The reason we don't do that is because average citizens don't have proper understanding of the law or gun safety, among other things, yet done insane individuals want the country to be ran by trigger happy imbeciles trying to play cop?

Just stop. Guns are bad for citizens to have access to.

 

[Sir Francis Drake]

More guns is the solution.
We should train the staff at schools to have ninja like reflexes and to shoot any dumbass kid who is carrying a gun at school. Let it be known any person carrying a gun not carried by staff will be shot and killed.

Let's see them try to do a school shooting knowing every staff member will shot them on site with a gun.

What happens when the teachers become Dead Cell and shoot up the school?

 

[sasukesworld]

You're speaking in hypothetical situations. If someone wants to kill someone they will find a way. Banning guns doesn't fix anything because America's criminal underground world still has a bunch of illegal guns. All it does is disarm the law abiding citizens while the criminals still have their weapons. I forgot where this happened but I read an article where a person was about to cause a mass shooting but was stopped by a citizen who had a LEGAL GUN. If that one citizen never had a gun we would've had another mass shooting. And the whole point of guns in this country in the first place was for the citizens to defend themselves, from criminals, corrupt dirty cops, and a government that becomes too powerful. Take away the citizens only means of defending themselves and this country is truly screwed. Hitler himself said "The first step to taking over a nation is disarming its citizens." And I watch investigator shows all the time where I've heard of people being stabbed to death countless of times. There are people who stab their victims from 40- to over 100 times. True story.

Wise words.

OT: What he said.^^