[Discussion] Red leg Vs black leg

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Do you think sanji could beat his master if his master still had both his legs?
And if so at what point do you think he could have beaten him?
 

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Black leg surpassed him still.
 

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sanji surpassed him when he created the flaming leg thing
 

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Black leg surpassed him still.

They called him red leg even though the style he used was black leg. Simply because if you saw him he would have his legs covered in your blood.
 

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Hard to say. I know Sanji would rape, but from what point is hard to say since we havn't seen sh*t from Zeff thus far.
 

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At the Baratie aec Sanji admitted that Zeff would kick his ass if he had two legs, but I think that around the timeskip he was at his level, and that he now surpassed it a lot.

Zeff surived the grand line for a couple of years, that takes skill. Don Krieg came back crying with Mihawk on his tail.
 

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They called him red leg even though the style he used was black leg. Simply because if you saw him he would have his legs covered in your blood.

So......I doubt red leg has even got Haki as strong as sanji'sU_U.
 

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Zeff was big back in whatever sea they were in, which was like the weakest of the four, if I remember correctly? Sanji is an infamous pirate now, it'll really be the case after this arc. He surpassed him prior to the time skip imo. Just difficult to say when.
 

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So......I doubt red leg has even got Haki as strong as sanji'sU_U.

So.... How can you conclude that from that specific quote ?

Besides Sanji didn't even shown any CoA haki yet, so what exactly is AS strong as Sanji's haki ?

What does your post even mean ?
 

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I don't think he's surpassed prime Zeff yet.
 

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To me I think sanji surpassed him long time ago, post time skip stomps
 

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Sanji would most likely win. Wasn't Zeff just an ordinary pirate? Well, Sanji is a monster.
 

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The real question is that did Zeff have haki and could he use a roushishiki technique like "Sky Walk"?

I dont think so. Everyone was hyped up before timeskip. Was Zeff strong? Yes he was, probably had strong "Observation" or "Arnament" haki. But i regretfully say Sanji has long surpassed his master now.
 

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Sanji would most likely win. Wasn't Zeff just an ordinary pirate? Well, Sanji is a monster.

No zeff with two legs survived on the grandline for years and roamed the waters looking for all blue and since the only place all blue was hinted at was FI its safe to assume he was new world matieral.
 

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Pre timeskip Sanji had surpassed Zeff, who was made to look like a ***** against Gin. Doesn't matter how old you are or even the fact that you lost a leg, if he were even close to what Sanji is now during his prime he would have stomped Don Krieg and his entire fleet in a matter of seconds.
 

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Pre timeskip Sanji had surpassed Zeff, who was made to look like a ***** against Gin. Doesn't matter how old you are or even the fact that you lost a leg, if he were even close to what Sanji is now during his prime he would have stomped Don Krieg and his entire fleet in a matter of seconds.

I don't think you understand how pivotal his leg is. Without his pivoting leg his kicks have zero power.. sanji minus a leg = fodder.
 

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I don't think you understand how pivotal his leg is. Without his pivoting leg his kicks have zero power.. sanji minus a leg = fodder.
haha Sanji with a wooden leg would absolutely stomp the entire CP9 in a matter of seconds, and you're telling me he would get fodderized by Gin of the Don Krieg pirates?
 

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haha Sanji with a wooden leg would absolutely stomp the entire CP9 in a matter of seconds, and you're telling me he would get fodderized by Gin of the Don Krieg pirates?

Yes because if he couldn't turn he has zero power behind his kicks. If he used the wooden leg it just breaks. And if you put him on the ground he has more trouble getting up.
 
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