Recent chapter hint into Hashirama's past

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Why try to say its my logic.. when its not even the samething.... Hashirama does have a connection with the Sage.. that is common knowledge.. same for Madara/Obito/Sasuke/Naruto/Nagato and so on.

If you were using my logic you wouldn't even mention killer B. Was killer B hailed as the Shinobi no Kami? Is Killer B even the strongest in his village?

How is that not the same? You claim that because Hashirama cared for the bijuus he must have a connection with Naruto/Rikudou. Than by that logic, Killer B should also have a connection with Rikudou.

How strong or weak B is doesn't matter. You claim that Nagato is connected with Rikudou but he hails from the same clan as Karin. Now how strong is Karin?

I know that senju/uchiha hail from the sons of Rikudou but Hashirama caring for the bijuus proves nothing. He just doesn't want the bijuus to die nothing more nothing less.
 

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Maybe, I would laugh actually. They basically agreed to be used and tormented by humanity. Lol

What you said is plausible, since Naruto and Hashirama are a lot alike personality wise. Hashirama using the Bijuus seems like something he wouldn't do imo.
Really? I don't see it that way. It was the choice of the other villages to treat them like dirt.. It was the choice of other villages to fight over the beasts Hashirama gave to them for peace...

Remember to Kurama literally stated he couldn't let it roam free any longer.. why? Cause of people like Madara.

Hashirama's only connection is that he's a senju, it's nothing special. The killer B not being a god of shinobi is irrelevant since it's just something some other shinobi call him and he is the strongest in his village.
God of Shinobi is irrelevent? incorrect its not something other shinobi call him its what other PEOPLE call him. Shinobi are not the whole people.

Killer B the strongest in the village? really? Even though his big brother is treated as the strongest? o_O.

But of wait your on the people keeps denying the connection between the 3. ^_^. Oh well.

We had six chapters recently depicting his past lol
Also hashirama never made friends with the tailed beast.
Every single person who captured a tailed beast did so thinking of them as a threat not as someone they could get to know
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And yet there is still more flashbacks and info to come about his past.. and summing 30 + years in 6 chapters isn't complete back story.. where was mito? What happened to Hashirama's family? How exactly did he become leader?

You say that.. even though Hashirama literally let Kurama roam around free.. until Madara decided to control it...


How is that not the same? You claim that because Hashirama cared for the bijuus he must have a connection with Naruto/Rikudou. Than by that logic, Killer B should also have a connection with Rikudou.

How strong or weak B is doesn't matter. You claim that Nagato is connected with Rikudou but he hails from the same clan as Karin. Now how strong is Karin?

I know that senju/uchiha hail from the sons of Rikudou but Hashirama caring for the bijuus proves nothing. He just doesn't want the bijuus to die nothing more nothing less.
Naruto = Hashirama parralell it already a canon fact confirmed by 2 of the main people .. Obito and Kakashi.

And why are we talking about Karin now? Did Killer B let the Bijuu roam free? Did Killer B have multiple bijuu under his control? Did Killer B even connect with other village leaders?

"hint" does not = Proof. If it was a solid proof it wouldn't be a hint. iight?
 
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Now that you pointed it out, I see it as possible too, but definitely not much. Because he still gave them away as power stabilizers.
 

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Now that you pointed it out, I see it as possible too, but definitely not much. Because he still gave them away as power stabilizers.

of course, but from his situation with Kurama I believe he did it for the "better cause" or there was atleast some rules on the treatment of the Bijuus.
 

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God of Shinobi is irrelevent? incorrect its not something other shinobi call him its what other PEOPLE call him. Shinobi are not the whole people.

Killer B the strongest in the village? really? Even though his big brother is treated as the strongest? o_O.

But of wait your on the people keeps denying the connection between the 3. ^_^. Oh well.

Being called god of shinobi is pretty irrelevant when you're trying to claim some sort of meaningful connection to the sage, Hiruzen's just as related as well then.

Killer Bee is easily the strongest, first of all this was shown when he out muscled A's best lariat when he was after Naruto. Transforming into beast mode that spin he did on the 6 edo jin's should take out A or just nuke him with tbb's.

What other 3?
 

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Really? I don't see it that way. It was the choice of the other villages to treat them like dirt.. It was the choice of other villages to fight over the beasts Hashirama gave to them for peace...

Remember to Kurama literally stated he couldn't let it roam free any longer.. why? Cause of people like Madara.


God of Shinobi is irrelevent? incorrect its not something other shinobi call him its what other PEOPLE call him. Shinobi are not the whole people.

Killer B the strongest in the village? really? Even though his big brother is treated as the strongest? o_O.

But of wait your on the people keeps denying the connection between the 3. ^_^. Oh well.


And yet there is still more flashbacks and info to come about his past.. and summing 30 + years in 6 chapters isn't complete back story.. where was mito? What happened to Hashirama's family? How exactly did he become leader?

You say that.. even though Hashirama literally let Kurama roam around free.. until Madara decided to control it...



Naruto = Hashirama parralell it already a canon fact confirmed by 2 of the main people .. Obito and Kakashi.

And why are we talking about Karin now? Did Killer B let the Bijuu roam free? Did Killer B have multiple bijuu under his control? Did Killer B even connect with other village leaders?

"hint" does not = Proof. If it was a solid proof it wouldn't be a hint. iight?



yeah that is exactly why kurama's flash back included hasirama.
I never said he used him as a deadly weapon,but he did not become friends with him either.
And your whole "theory" is based on

"And yet there is still more flashbacks and info to come about his past.. and summing 30 + years in 6 chapters isn't complete back story.. where was mito? What happened to Hashirama's family? How exactly did he become leader? "


Unless kishi says there is more back story that is relevant to the story then there isn't any.
Once again kishi showed what was relevant.

How did he become the leader ?Where is mito ? Who knows,who cares since that has nothing to do with what your thread is talking about and is purely trivial and now your kinda just switching topics to defend a theory that has nothing to back it up while manga proof says otherwise.
 

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Naruto is the chosen one.

Only naruto is capable of helping the bijuu


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YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE RIGHT HERE THAT NOBODY BUT,THE SAGE UP UNTIL THAT POINT HAS SHOWED THEM THE WAY.

DID THEY MENTION HASHIRAMA ? NO,THEY DIDN'T

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Naruto = Hashirama parralell it already a canon fact confirmed by 2 of the main people .. Obito and Kakashi.

And why are we talking about Karin now? Did Killer B let the Bijuu roam free? Did Killer B have multiple bijuu under his control? Did Killer B even connect with other village leaders?

"hint" does not = Proof. If it was a solid proof it wouldn't be a hint. iight?

Weak argument, so Kishimoto likes to recycle his characters

Naruto = Obito, Hashirama - Sasuke = Kakashi, Madara

But what does that proof, hint, suggest, imply, indicate? Absolutely nothing.
 

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yeah that is exactly why kurama's flash back included hasirama.
I never said he used him as a deadly weapon,but he did not become friends with him either.
And your whole "theory" is based on
"And yet there is still more flashbacks and info to come about his past.. and summing 30 + years in 6 chapters isn't complete back story.. where was mito? What happened to Hashirama's family? How exactly did he become leader? "
Unless kishi says there is more back story that is relevant to the story then there isn't any.
Once again kishi showed what was relevant.
How did he become the leader ?Where is mito ? Who knows,who cares since that has nothing to do with what your thread is talking about and is purely trivial and now your kinda just switching topics to defend a theory that has nothing to back it up while manga proof says otherwise.
1. Not even a theory.

2. Kurama believes Hashirama is implying the samething as Madara.. Even though in reality.. he is the only 1 besides Naruto who had the opposite reaction to Sasuke's statement. Showing he does care for the Beasts

3. Kishimoto already stated there is a backstory, since the whole fight wasn't shown.... lmao. Do you really think Madara and Hashirama face to face are not gonna talk about the past?

4. Hashirama told his story in short.. because they did not have time. <<<< Should read the manga alot more clear you know.

5. I like how your focusing on the examples I gave , and saying I'm switching the topic.. instead of actually reading the OP with a non-biased point of view.

Naruto is the chosen one.

Only naruto is capable of helping the bijuu


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YOU CAN CLEARLY SEE RIGHT HERE THAT NOBODY BUT,THE SAGE UP UNTIL THAT POINT HAS SHOWED THEM THE WAY.

DID THEY MENTION HASHIRAMA ? NO,THEY DIDN'T

/THREAD
1. Incorrect, my point was never Hashirama is the one who was going to show them the way.. My point was he was friends/friendly with the tailed beast. Establishing the Hashirama/Naruto/Rikudou connection further.

2. Hashirama only had couple of Tailed beasts not all of them at the same time.

Weak argument, so Kishimoto likes to recycle his characters

Naruto = Obito, Hashirama - Sasuke = Kakashi, Madara

But what does that proof, hint, suggest, imply, indicate? Absolutely nothing.
The proof implies that Hashirama cared for the Tailed beasts he had under his control. o_O.

Why ask me? reread the manga.. Sasuke = Madara... Naruto = HAshirama...... Sasuke = Uchiha.. Naruto = Senju...

Its the same cycle.. Naruto and Sasuke are the last chapter.
 

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You guys are misunderstanding Hashirama. His jovial personality belies a more practical side. He imprisoned the bijuu because they were dangerous to the village and to humanity. Hashirama didn't want to kill them, but he did want to keep them under control. The current situation basically shows he and Madara were right. Naruto and Bee have destroyed a large part of the world and their power is the reason for the war.

Sasuke's attitude of "burn it down, kill the bijuu and destroy the Kage system" is logically sound. Hashirama is an absolute failure. His naive prattling and senseless ideals caused this war. Wait for it. You fanboys will get off his *** soon enough.
 

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You guys are misunderstanding Hashirama. His jovial personality belies a more practical side. He imprisoned the bijuu because they were dangerous to the village and to humanity. Hashirama didn't want to kill them, but he did want to keep them under control. The current situation basically shows he and Madara were right. Naruto and Bee have destroyed a large part of the world and their power is the reason for the war.

Sasuke's attitude of "burn it down, kill the bijuu and destroy the Kage system" is logically sound. Hashirama is an absolute failure. His naive prattling and senseless ideals caused this war. Wait for it. You fanboys will get off his *** soon enough.

@ bold incorrect. He allowed Kurama to roam free.

And Sasuke is the reason the Juubi is even there.....
 
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