[Theory] Reasons why Uchiha Madara is the finall villain = Madara is kishimoto's masterpiece

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Black Zetsu wasn't Madara.
Spiral Zetsu wasn't Madara.
Tobi wasn't Madara.
Masked Man wasn't Madara.

Manga has already proven this. So why are you bothering to try and go against it?

He's so deluded, it's not even funny anymore.
 

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black zetsu wasn't madara.
Spiral zetsu wasn't madara.
Tobi wasn't madara.
Masked man wasn't madara.

Manga has already proven this. So why are you bothering to try and go against it?

the manga never proved it...it just showed the obito part of tobi...the madara part will come very soon
 

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the manga never proved it...it just showed the obito part of tobi...the madara part will come very soon

Never proved it? We've been reading the same manga, right?

Lets approach this with logic instead of facts, and view it from a perspective as a writer instead of a fan.

Obito said himself, several times that he was the one that fought Minato, meaning he was the one that attacked the village years ago. He said he was the one that created the Akatsuki, and that he was the one who helped Itachi. That is facts, now lets look at it logical. We saw Madara dying, and there is no known way to for two spirits to exists within the same body at once. ( Nor is there any logic to back that up either. ) Lets take a look at the names; "Obito" and "Tobi". They are made out of the same letters, with a few excluded. Its also highly possible that Obito came up with that name sometime after forming the Akatsuki as he didn't go by that name when he fought Minato. From a writer's perspective, and logical one. It would be no point in a plot twist around Madara being a part of Obito at this point. There is no reason for it, no point and no logic behind it.

If you can prove, with either logic or actual proof that this is possible then by all means do that and I will stay here and prove you wrong.
 

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as Much As I was rooting For you ....it's over for this theory bro
 

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it looks like Kguya's planned the whole shhhitt..her troll plan i have to say is amazing..but the problem is that she fell on the wrong person to play with...YOU KAGUYA?..FVCK WITH UCHIHA MADARA??....REALLY?...SHE WANNA PLAY ROUGH??...OK???...here's Madara's ultimate trumpcard : THE OTHER MADARA !!!!!...TOBIDARA...who is the true villain tobi...


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good thread man... as u said we will see in few chapters, anyways... last villain could be Sasuke, would be pretty cool actually.. but thats not happening
 

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as Much As I was rooting For you ....it's over for this theory bro

i know how you feel...but plz just plz give my theory some time..then judge it
 

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-what im gonna say about Madara is not fanboying..it's not biasing..it's just truth from my perspective....Madara is the finall villain and the savior of this Manga....not some fvckin kaguya or Bobito or black zetsu..JUST MADARA !!

1- how did naruto part 1 start??...its started with talking about kiyubi attack incident..wich was orchestrated by Madara (not obito)...

2-how did naruto part 2 i mean shppuden (anime) start???...it started with the kiyubi talking about UCHIHA MADARA ...

Kishi already forshadowed Madara to be the finall villain...however we have a manga problematic here....

in the manga there is a rule : The central villain is the one who is supposed to be the final villain !!!

-now who is the central villain???...its obviously THE MASKED MAN TOBI...thus in order for Madara to be the finall villain he has to be the masked man tobi...

-its not fair that kishimoto makes Madara the final villain when Madara appeared in just 3 arcs since chapter 559...the true villain of the manga is the one who committed these evil incidents :

1-kiyubi attack on konoha ..

2-mizukage yagura manipulation and the Bloody Mist incidents

3-the uchiha Massacre

4-founding akatsuki and gathering the 9 tailed beasts

but if obito was the masked man who committed these evil incidents then WHY DIDN'T HE BECOME THE FINAL VILLAIN??...also why did obito's character sudenlly changed when his mask was broke..not only he didn't show those bada$$ traits of the masked man tobi but also he got AN EPIC TALKNOJUTSU FROM NARUTO !!!!...

the answer is very shocking :

-its becuz the MYSTERY OF TOBI IS NOT OVER GUYS...Tobi's true identity is Uchiha Madara controlling obito...Madara never died...befor old madara died he sealed his other part within obito and controlled him....the other Madara is Rikudo Madara's ultimate trumpcard and secrets that will troll everyone....

madara in his new form tobi was the one who planned the kiyubi attack on konoha, slaughtred the uchiha clan, and manipulated yagura.

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-in an interview kishimoto said " WATCH OUT FOR THE FINAL VILLAIN !!"..wich implies that some1 unexpected will emerge to be the true and finall villain of the Manga..

-kishimoto also stated that he doesn't know how to kill Madara wich is huge sign that Madara is definitly the final villain without contest...

-the only thing that will make madara really invincible is when he eats the holly apple of shinju...Madara wants to get closer to kaguya's powers by eating the holly fruit...wich is his ultimate goal...but in doing so Madara must be carfull of kaguya's attempt to possess him....thats why Madara must have some trumpcard left...

-Madara read in the uchiha tablets the ritual of the inifnit tsukoyomi and how its activated....not sure if kaguya also wrote the uchiha tablet...but it appears that by letting some 1 like Madara read the uchiha stone and adopt the MEP , kaguya wanted to use someone (madara) as a pawn to implement the MEP and cast the infinit tsukoyomi, in the same way madara used obito as pawn to gather the tailed beasts..so when the right time comes kaguya will try possess madara..

-it looks like Kguya's planned the whole shhhitt..her troll plan i have to say is amazing..but the problem is that she fell on the wrong person to play with...YOU KAGUYA?..FVCK WITH UCHIHA MADARA??....REALLY?...SHE WANNA PLAY ROUGH??...OK???...here's Madara's ultimate trumpcard : THE OTHER MADARA !!!!!...TOBIDARA...who is the true villain tobi...

becuz Madara already calculated for the possibility of Nagato and obito betrying him...he seald his empty shell or his other part with obito..when obito was still fainted from the boulder crush..then Madara placed a curse seal FOR PUPPETS on obito's heart to turn off his consiousness when the 2nd Madara take full controll over him...

-then after Bobito got recovred..Madara created the black zetsu..who is created from Madara's will...then Madara disconnected himself from the mazo ...however as i said madara didn't die but kept alive innside obito , in his form tobi........let me sum it up to you...Madara feared that Nagato or obito would betray him by not reviving him....he also thats why he sealed himself within obito..

-Madara's philosophie is "one can count only himself to revive himself" :

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but when Tobi met kisame he finally found some1 to trust with the Moon eye plan....the most trustworthy and loyal shinobi in the history of shinobies "KISAME HOCHIKAGE "....

-the fact that black zetsu ignored about tobi being Madara...WAS ENTRUSTED TO KISAME BY THE MASKED MAN HIMSELF....reall villain like uchiha Madara respects other villains...if tobi was indeed obito who fooled kisame..that would be disrespect from obito toward kisame when he fools him...But becuz Madara is true villain who respects other vilains..he apporaches kisame and shows him his true face...and tells him his reall identity

kisame : who are you??

Tobimadara : im uchiha madara

kisame: dont you dare lie to me...MADARA IS DEAD !!!..SHOW YOUR FACE TO ME !!...so i can belive you

Tobimadara shows his reall face :

kisame ...what the....??!!....MADARA !!!!...

tobimadara : didn't i just tell you that reality is full of lies??..im madara still breathing

Kisame : you seem to be trusting me ..but why me??...

Tobimadara : becuz you are more loyal then my black zetsu will !!! ...you are the one who never betrays his commrades..

kisame smiles : ALRIGHT BRO ! you have my trustworthiness...i wont tell anyone who you are ..even if they put me in gejutsu and try to get info from my mind...i will just bite my tongue and die along with the secret....


concluison : BIG RESPECT FOR OUR BRO KISAME HOCHIKAGE WHO DIDN'T DIE LIKE A FOOL BUT DIED PROTECTING MADARA'S SECRETS !!!!!

so what's gonna happen is that Madara will troll everyone in the same way Bobito troled everyone when he become the juubi's jinchuriki..instead of Madara...

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i hope spiral zetsus will do somethng against black zetsu's betrayal

-Madara is a mastermind villain... he doesn't plan something without having trumpcards....

-madara's ultimate trumpcard is himself..or tobimadara who is the true and finall villain of this manga
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Minamoto please stop this madness, you know that only retarded people will go along with your theory, anyway final villain is clearly Sasuke, Kishi said so in an interview, that it's gonna be Madara first, then the Shinju and finally Sasuke
 

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so you know some secrets about me..i am the empty shell of sozo sama sealed within narutobase..and sorry i can't give up...also im asking you please..i say plz be patient for few chapters..then have the right to judge me..cuz tobidara reveal is moving cruelly forward !!!

I can see through you full of lies with my Byakugan, I Kaguya is the Final Villain the Mastermind pulling the strings , you've been manipulated all along with your theories.

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I can see through you full of lies with my Byakugan, I Kaguya is the Final Villain the Mastermind pulling the strings , you've been manipulated all along with your theories.

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i got rinnegan..you got just byakugan....MY EYES CAN REALIZE REALL LIES !!!...i'll own you kaguya ..you have my word
 

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i got rinnegan..you got just byakugan....MY EYES CAN REALIZE REALL LIES !!!...i'll own you kaguya ..you have my word

Rinnegan can't do that, that dojutsu mainly focused on OPness the sage of 6th path power while the Byakugan are the best in Insight...

So you've just been played, my Byakugan can see all of it furthermore you've been manupilated with my third eye Sharinnegan
 

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wont happen bcuz is too boring..
even if its not that complicated, kishi'll make the story more interesting than this shit.
 

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Honestly, you either think you know something the rest of us don't or the best troll I have ever seen on a forum.

The fact you cling to this theory after you've been proven wrong each chapters is SO sad...
 

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I have an idea minamoto, why don't you e-mail your different "theories" to kishi himself and see if he gives a ****? :)

You are making yourself look like a fool with every one of your posts, please stop. You are hurting yourself and you just admited that you pulled everything out of your ass with one sentence:

me always bring the manga evidence even when they dont exist !!!!

With that one sentence, you anihilated yourself. All your semblance of credibility that was left has completely vanished. You were already not very credible and on countless times you were proven wrong but this is the final straw.

Please, either stop and accept that you are wrong or look back at your theory and try to see the flaws. If you take the second option, please come back with a theory that is based on manga facts and not on made up facts.

I am not saying that to be mean. Afterall, you can take this advice or not, I honestly don't care.
 
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I have an idea minamoto, why don't you e-mail your different "theories" to kishi himself and see if he gives a ****? :)

You are making yourself look like a fool with every one of your posts, please stop. You are hurting yourself and you just admited that you pulled everything out of your ass with one sentence:



With that one sentence, you anihilated yourself. All your semblance of credibility that was left has completely vanished. You were already not very credible and on countless times you were proven wrong but this is the final straw.

Please, either stop and accept that you are wrong or look back at your theory and try to see the flaws. If you take the second option, please come back with a theory that is based on manga facts and not on made up facts.

I am not saying that to be mean. Afterall, you can take this advice or not, I honestly don't care.

easier said then done!!...make a thread and defy me !!
 

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I gave you a chance to act mature for once but heh, I guess it's a hopeless case. Have a nice time in your "World of dreams".

And besides, the manga defies you already.
 
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I gave you a chance to act mature for once but heh, I guess it's a hopeless case. Have a nice time in your "World of dreams".

And besides, the manga defies you already.

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