Reasons why non-Uchihas using the Powers of Sharingan is a complete Bull$hit!!

[Rikodou Mode]

Agreed. EMS gives you huge amounts of chakra which is an Ashura trait whereas Sage Mode and KCM give you strong chakra which is and Indra trait.

 

[minamoto]

I agree wholeheartedly.

I believe this is best illustrated in the manga with Orochimaru's studies. He was the key and a lot of the lure was demonstrated in the regular naruto series but we had no idea what the experiments lead to. We learn more and more that he studied and tried to manipulate the powers of everyone who ended up joining sasuke's join hebi/taka, as well as uchiha eyes. He implanted sharingans in a multitude of people and most of the died. The ending result was as you explain it they must have senju blood. So either Danzo is a descendent or Orochimaru was able to incorporate that power in as well.

I believe the whole point is for someone of something distinct joining with it's opposing power and achieving balance.

Black Zetsu wrote on the tablet and altered it for an uchiha to gain the power of senju to create rinnegan( for his own purposes). The Sage wrote on because he didn't want his power to be awakened in this world.

Uchiha gaining Senju should be the same the opposite way. I don't believe it is meant for Senju to have rinnegan but ....have exactly what naruto had.. Senjutsu of the 6 paths. Achieving balance in their perspective spiritual or physical powers.

Kakashi along with Obito is the exact same thing.

I agree it was a little of a children's story as we have never seen any uchiha rise from their ashes momentarily.(Could itachi do that?)
But going along with the physics of this world.. Kakashi as we have to understand is senju or of senju descend. I believe the white hair could possibly be an indicator as it may be related to jiraiya and tobirama. So that is why he was able to connect to obito's Sharingan.

Another thing is we also can't attribute that as a normal occurrence. Obito NEVER DIED/THEY Both achieved MS simultaneously. Those were some twisted scenes of events. So their connections could be way kakashi was able to use it. We don't know.

But kakashi with *Obito's Spiritual Energy* is simulating uchiha+senju power, which Perfect Susanoo is an understatement for in earnest.
Sasuke with only 3tomoe and cursed seal(senju energy) was able to break out of Tsukiyomi(MS).

Combining the two is what its all about.

makes sense bro!

 

[VongolaX]

Also take into account that uchiha kekkai genkai go far beyond the sharingan only.

No non uchiha is going to pull off a uchiha flame barrier anytime soon.

Even mokuton that is suppose to be giving life to the earth is being used by non senjus.

So far every non uchiha sharingan holders have yin fragment Justus, so they can handle it

 

[shelke]

I think the only question regarding his MS is why he didn't have any noted use of it from the day it was activated up until he mentioned he trained in using it during the 3 year time skip. What caused him to realize he had it would be interesting to find out.

But the likely explanation is Kishi never actually expected to give Kakashi the mangekyo in part 1 and only came to the idea that he wanted to give him that ability when he was writing out the storyline for part 2.

Where Kishi messed up in regards to Kakashi using the MS is how he allowed him to basically spam it like an Uchiha in the war arc. The limitations it caused him after using it throughout most of part 2 made sense given he lacked the body to withstand it(even Itachi and Sasuke showed more exhaustion using their MS techniques through most of the manga than Kakashi did in the war arc). Just spamming it willy nilly was stupid on Kishi's part, in terms of believability.

But then again most of part two was stupid on Kishi's part, so oh well.

I agree on the power scaling. But the inhibitions balanced out the whole thing. So, I wasn't bothered by that Sharingan technique.

Even if I do agree with you, there were other factors as well: 1) at crucial points in the war arc, Kurama gave him chakra. There is a scan where Kakashi confirms it. 2) Kakashi's chakra control was always pretty good. We know since part one that the more control you have, the less chakra you will end up using.

But I still agree with what you stated. It made no sense for him to even use it that much. Personally speaking, Naruto and the whole Bijuu business blew everything out of proportion. In order to keep tiers in check, Kishimoto ruined Uchiha tiers as well. I cannot be the only one who thinks that the power tiers never should have exceeded beyond early part II - very very early Part II.

 

[Aznkidd]

For some one to come up with a plan to defeat god should able to figure out of what he had.
Skill > everything else.
Just because you are gifted with power (power that you can easily use it) to begin with doesnt mean you are better.

 

[Rogue Pit]

For some one to come up with a plan to defeat god should able to figure out of what he had.
Skill > everything else.
Just because you are gifted with power (power that you can easily use it) to begin with doesnt mean you are better.

I agree but it's those gifts that CAN separate the skill/power lvl of different people.
To an extend Neji is correct.. Lee would have to work 10x harder to compete with Neji, yet neji would have the ability to fight a farther range of opponents.

But to give support to your claim. The uchiha are seen as geniuses. In Team 7, this is a reflection of the case with naruto being like ashura and having to work harder.
The opposite occurs with Minato's Team consisting of Kakashi,obito, rin. Whereas Senju is the genius and obito has to the work much harder.

Its all about the individual who works hard. But if you have a gift and work hard. It indeed sets you apart.

 

[minamoto]

I agree on the power scaling. But the inhibitions balanced out the whole thing. So, I wasn't bothered by that Sharingan technique.

Even if I do agree with you, there were other factors as well: 1) at crucial points in the war arc, Kurama gave him chakra. There is a scan where Kakashi confirms it. 2) Kakashi's chakra control was always pretty good. We know since part one that the more control you have, the less chakra you will end up using.

But I still agree with what you stated. It made no sense for him to even use it that much. Personally speaking, Naruto and the whole Bijuu business blew everything out of proportion. In order to keep tiers in check, Kishimoto ruined Uchiha tiers as well. I cannot be the only one who thinks that the power tiers never should have exceeded beyond early part II - very very early Part II.

but didn't Kakashi use up the Kiyubi chakra all befor?....

 

[minamoto]

For some one to come up with a plan to defeat god should able to figure out of what he had.
Skill > everything else.
Just because you are gifted with power (power that you can easily use it) to begin with doesnt mean you are better.

hmmmmmm

 

[shelke]

but didn't Kakashi use up the Kiyubi chakra all befor?....

It happened twice - first against Obito:

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Then for BM Chakra shrouds:

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He admits it, that he cannot even use or sustain the technique for long periods of time without it:

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[minamoto]

It happened twice - first against Obito:

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Then for BM Chakra shrouds:

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He admits it, that he cannot even use or sustain the technique for long periods of time without it:

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good manga evidences...i hate when kishi lies just what's convenient to him !!