Reasons why Kishi gave Naruto 2 childs instead of 1 and Sasuke 1 child instead of 2

[Rikodou Mode]

Uh, no they weren't

Lee got drunk and destroyed a shop before.

Choji did the same thing and devoured asuma's wallet..

Neji tried to murder his cousin

Sasuke tried to murder his best friend

Naruto was vandalizing monuments an stealing forbidden scrolls

Sakura was hitting Naruto on a daily basis and making fun of orphans
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Never noticed how savage they were and Sakura had no shame just like her husband

 

[Shruikan]

You're speculating a Movie sketch(PROMO) and assuming all of this.... there's many series where the son calls his dad "old man" or some variation. His biggest rival is his dad apparently.​

No he called him a crappy old man.He learnt nothing from Naruto's lecture in 700

Lee got drunk and destroyed a shop before.

Choji did the same thing and devoured asuma's wallet..

Neji tried to murder his cousin

Sasuke tried to murder his best friend

Naruto was vandalizing monuments an stealing forbidden scrolls

Sakura was hitting Naruto on a daily basis and making fun of orphans

Firstly Neji never had a killing intention throughout the fight.He had won the fight fair and square when Hinata fell down and he told her to forfeit.When she refused,he got annoyed and went in for the kill
Sakura was also shown in a distasteful manner like the new gen
Sasuke and Naruto being the entire plot were always destined to fight

Naruto is excused for all his pranks as he did them so people would notice him as he was being treated like trash.In contrast the new gen is in peaceful times yet they seem like brats

Lee and Choji never seemed that way.This new gen does

When she's the daughter of the Hokage and the MC's little sister, yes there is....

And yet we have so much of Salad and Bolt shoved in our faces and absolutely nothing for Himawari

She had like 3 lines it was asking about her uncle. How the hell does that reek of fodder? How is she even a fodder in the first place when she isn't even a shinobi. That's like calling a baby weak because it can't bench press 200lb. She obviously isn't intended to be a ninja.

Its how her face is structured and the manner in which she spoke to Hinata.If she isnt intended to be a ninja she is just one of those run of the mill placeholder charas who seem utterly weak in comparison to the MC and hence fodder

If she isn't intended to be what the OP thinks she'll be. How is she going to suck? She's probably be neutral. Disliking her would be like disliking Kushina. You have little to no reason to do so.

I dont dislike her.I am saying she sucks as she has nothing much to do in the plot.She sucks to me just like characters like Ebisu do

 

[To Whatever]

No he called him a crappy old man.He learnt nothing from Naruto's lecture in 700

Did you not read what I said? And how do you know he didn't take anything from that lecture? you aren't kishi or the editor..

Firstly Neji never had a killing intention throughout the fight.He had won the fight fair and square when Hinata fell down and he told her to forfeit.When she refused,he got annoyed and went in for the kill
Sakura was also shown in a distasteful manner like the new gen
Sasuke and Naruto being the entire plot were always destined to fight

Naruto is excused for all his pranks as he did them so people would notice him as he was being treated like trash.In contrast the new gen is in peaceful times yet they seem like brats

Lee and Choji never seemed that way.This new gen does

What does it matter when in the end he tried to murder her? "He wasn't trying to kill her at first" makes no difference. That's like trying to explain why a murder happened by saying "He was only playing around at first, but then it got real"

Not to mention the damn match was already over before he rushed in to kill her.

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Don't try to defend Sakura when throughout part 1 and some of part 2 she was either thinking inappropriate thoughts (At age 12-14.) about Sasuke or punching people. That orphan talk is just one of the many instances.

The plot doesn't excuse what he tried to do. Plus, plot made them do a lot of things. Moot point.

Lee and Choji may not seem that way, but that's the way they are.

Naruto isn't excused. There's reason behind his actions but it doesn't excuse them.

And yet we have so much of Salad and Bolt shoved in our faces and absolutely nothing for Himawari

Haven't seen Oro and the others shoved in our faces, either. They must not be in the series or movie either..

Its how her face is structured and the manner in which she spoke to Hinata.If she isnt intended to be a ninja she is just one of those run of the mill placeholder charas who seem utterly weak in comparison to the MC and hence fodder

Her face is structured....

How is she a placeholder character? Who place is she holding? Boruto and Sarada are fodders themselves so how are you going to continue talking out of your ass about plot points and things you know nothing about. Karin and Kiba are fodders compared to Itachi but I can guarantee you they're 10 times the sensor he'd ever be. Each character has their strength and weaknesses. But that's not the point.

Calling someone who's purpose isn't to fight or be a shinobi, a fodder is idiotic.

I dont dislike her.I am saying she sucks as she has nothing much to do in the plot.She sucks to me just like characters like Ebisu do

Once again, you don't know the plot. Stop acting like you do.​

Never noticed how savage they were and Sakura had no shame just like her husband

And some of them had parents..

 

[Shruikan]

Did you not read what I said? And how do you know he didn't take anything from that lecture? you aren't kishi or the editor..​

Because there is a line from the movie calling his Dad crappy which is the same thing he wrote on the monument before Naruto lectured him

What does it matter when in the end he tried to murder her? "He wasn't trying to kill her at first" makes no difference. That's like trying to explain why a murder happened by saying "He was only playing around at first, but then it got real"

Not to mention the damn match was already over before he rushed in to kill her.

He told her to quit the fight first.She did not listen to him and he went in for the kill.Thats my point

Don't try to defend Sakura when throughout part 1 and some of part 2 she was either thinking inappropriate thoughts (At age 12-14.) about Sasuke. That orphan talk is just one of the many instances.

And I already told you many of the Sakura fan girl scenes are pathetic :|

The plot doesn't excuse what he tried to do. Plus, plot made them do a lot of things. Moot point.

Yes it does otherwise the story wouldn't exist

Lee and Choji may not seem that way, but that's the way they are.

They weren't living in very peaceful times

Naruto isn't excused. There's reason behind his actions but it doesn't excuse them.

It excuses them because he was being treated worse than trash.There is a legit reason which is extreme sadness behind it

The new gen has no reasons for it.

Haven't seen Oro and the others shoved in our faces, either. They must not be in the series or movie either..

No info regarding part 3 leaked yet except it's going to be on April 27.Bolt and Salad have got like 3-4 promos dedicated to them.They are going to be the most relevant..Oro is the villain who is generally revealed near last like Toneri was

Her face is structured....

She looks like a Pokemon

How is she a placeholder character? Who place is she holding? Boruto and Sarada are fodders themselves so how are you going to continue talking out of your ass about plot points and things you know nothing about. Karin and Kiba are fodders compared to Itachi but I can guarantee you they're 10 times the sensor he'd ever be. Each character has their strength and weaknesses. But that's not the point.

Probably as the innocent shy girl who is there in every series

And where the heck did I talk about plot points.I only said Bolt is calling his dad crappy and Himawari doesn't look like she will be featured much as she doesn't look of the combative type hence she sucks.Oro can be easily beaten by N and S hence Kishi will obviously do something to prevent em from confronting.Thats literally it

I was talking relevant to the current actual kids related plot.Discounting the old gen,Bolt and Salad will probably be the ones to get the most powers.In comparison many of their peers would be fodder

and how does strength and weakness matter if the character itself is not great.Sakura,Hinata and Karin can do a lot of useful things yet they are trashed and mocked and that is for a reason.Itachi is not and that is also for a reason

Calling someone who's purpose isn't to fight or be a shinobi, a fodder is idiotic.

If her purpose is not to fight she is already a boring and useless character to me apart from people who love the cute girl vibe from her but I am not one of em​

 

[Guitar Hero]

1.Himawari is destined to be fodder.There hasnt been a glimpse of her outside 700 nor is her sketch released along with Bolt and Salad

Yeah lets pretend the Jump Festa pics of Bolt and Himawari as infants or their sketches for the Last film doesnt exist, both of which that were released long after 700.

 

[To Whatever]

Blah

Getting nowhere with you since you're not getting it. Let's leave it at that.


The density in this thread...

 

[Shruikan]

Yeah lets pretend the Jump Festa pics of Bolt and Himawari as infants or their sketches for the Last film doesnt exist, both of which that were released long after 700.

The potraits were done only to show the respective families.Even Sasuke was shown together with his family

Himawari and Bolt were shown in The Last to show Naruto had kids.The movie did not have focus on them

Lets see if we get something concrete regarding the new material which focuses mainly on them

 

[Shruikan]

Getting nowhere with you since you're not getting it. Let's leave it at that.


The density in this thread...

No.The problem is you are not getting that all I did was tell the OP his dreams are ill founded and the Himawari part was how I viewed her and you came in with that "lording over" attitude trying to change what is clearly an opinion

@bold red No need to get all insulting about it

 

[Guitar Hero]

The potraits were done only to show the respective families.Even Sasuke was shown together with his family

Himawari and Bolt were shown in The Last to show Naruto had kids.The movie did not have focus on them

Lets see if we get something concrete regarding the new material which focuses mainly on them

Im not talking about the portraits im talking about the sketches of them as infants, but whatever you stated Himawari hasnt been seen out ch 700. Which is false.

Yeah lets actually wait for the manga in a few weeks to see who' going to be irrelevant to pt3 or not cause it sure as seems Sasuke has reduced to side character status if obscure proms/leaks are anything to go by.

 

[To Whatever]

No.The problem is you are not getting that all I did was tell the OP his dreams are ill founded and the Himawari part was how I viewed her and you came in with that "lording over" attitude trying to change what is clearly an opinion

@bold red No need to get all insulting about it

Wasn't trying to change your opinion. Only find reasoning behind it. And I found there's little behind it.



And it isn't an insult if it's a fact. And it doesn't apply solely to you.

 

[Shruikan]

Im not talking about the portraits im talking about the sketches of them as infants, but whatever you stated Himawari hasnt been seen out ch 700. Which is false.

And you should have known I was obviously talking of the new series

Yeah lets actually wait for the manga in a few weeks to see who' going to be irrelevant to pt3 or not cause it sure as seems Sasuke has reduced to side character status if obscure proms/leaks are anything to go by.

I wouldnt be surprised if its a 10 chapter series that he is reduced to a cameo.He already had 700 chapters of MC status anyway.This Part 3 obviously isnt going to be as action packed and enticing as Part 2 anyway so in someways its good for his character and for all intents and purposes the real series has already ended.This is just scraps

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

Yea kishi a messed up Karin and sasuke kid would have been op

 

[Shruikan]

Wasn't trying to change your opinion. Only find reasoning behind it. And I found there's little behind it.

Actually there is.Simple reason.I dont like characters who just stay on the sidelines behaving all cute and shit and making excuses for them being that way is even more laughable.These characters are just weak and an annoyance.

And it isn't an insult if it's a fact. And it doesn't apply solely to you.

And here we are acting all high and mighty over everyone.What makes you even think I am even that much serious while posting on this forum?If someone thinks of me as a fool for having some fun here I dont mind Lol And speaking of facts,this thread is all opinion based so these are all opinions you are saying having particular opinions is an fact of being dense? lol okay

 

[GreyWizard93]

I think it's symbolic. We all know Naruto alone was never a match for Sasuke but with Kage bunshin spam and Kurama he stood as his equal.

Conclusion: Humuchuchi+bolt=Sarada

as did pretty much all of k11 spam one jutsu.

 

[To Whatever]

Actually there is.Simple reason.I dont like characters who just stay on the sidelines behaving all cute and shit and making excuses for them being that way is even more laughable.These characters are just weak and an annoyance.

You don't even know her contribution to the plot. Maybe she stays on the sidelines, maybe she helps somehow. We don't know yet.

And by your logic you must have despised Sakura because you just described her. But I doubt it for obvious reasons.

And here we are acting all high and mighty over everyone.What makes you even think I am even that much serious while posting on this forum?If someone thinks of me as a fool for having some fun here I dont mind Lol

It applies to me as well. :bdpf:

Chin up.

@red you said it not me.

 

[Shruikan]

You don't even know her contribution to the plot. Maybe she stays on the sidelines, maybe she helps somehow. We don't know yet.

And by your logic you must have despised Sakura because you just described her. But I doubt it for obvious reasons.

No.Sakura does not behave like a shy/cute girl which Himawari clearly is.This lacks one of the ingredient for me to dislike her

It applies to me as well. :bdpf:

:bdpf:

Chin up.

@red you said it not me.

I used "If" nor do I care what people think of me :bdpf:

 

[Amaterasu]

Never noticed how savage they were and Sakura had no shame just like her husband

NarutoVerse is brutal bro Lol

 

[To Whatever]

No.Sakura does not behave like a shy/cute girl which Himawari clearly is.This lacks one of the ingredient for me to dislike her

How does she act shy if she only has 2 panels? The hell....


And she does act that way around Sasuke...

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I used "If" nor do I care what people think of me :bdpf:

Doesn't matter if you used If...

 

[Shruikan]

How does she act shy if she only has 2 panels? The hell....

I can't exactly explain it but I am getting a Hinata vibe from her the way she speaks and how she has her face

And she does act that way around Sasuke...

Majority of the series she doesn't behave like that with Naruto.Even with Sasuke in Part 1 she had a lively personality

Doesn't matter if you used If...

Oh please we both know what you really think

 

[bdm]

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Conclusion : Sasuke should have Married Karin : Becuz Uzumaki Blood + Uchiha blood = invincibility !!

dont worry dude kishi has already planned this for that bolt x salada kid. lol