[Theory] Reasons why Kaguya WILL be TNJ'd

[Fegelein]

1. Yeah yeah, you've just opened this thread thinking about the fact she said "I hate you" and says "I want all the chakra" and you would think this makes it impossible to TNJ her. Guess who else said exactly the same thing before? Kurama. Remember how it wanted Naruto dead at all costs and would've wanted to drain all his chakra as soon as he was exhausted? Remember how Kurama hated humanity and anything that had chakra? Yeah. Evil Kurama and Kaguya are exactly the same, they're both from the God Tree anyway. Naruto already has the experience he needs to TNJ her.

2. She's already been sealed once before. It would be anti-climatic if she lost this battle the exact same way she lost the first time, I mean imagine if Edo Madara had been defeated by Edo Hashirama. It would bring nothing new to the series.

3. Sealing her would do no good. She has already proven she can work her way out of it, they would just be delaying the inevitable confrontation for the next generations.

4. Killing her seems to be impossible since she's immune to damage, she's chakra incarnate, and it would also be anticlimatic if the ending was "ok she's dead let's go back home now!" After 680 chapters it would be stupid if that was the ending.

5. Naruto is all about using peace and reaching agreement. He has already understood thanks to Nagato that using violence to end violence achieves nothing, and has proven to believe in this by succesfully TNJ'ing Obito.

6. Kaguya seems to be vulnerable to changing her mind. She's got bad memories and is be sad about what happened before, we haven't even heard her version of the story yet.

7. Killing a mother in a teenager-oriented manga? This isn't GTA or Death Note or Saw it's not like you're gonna see immoral stuff happening in this manga. Not even a secondary character like Gai gets to die and you think a woman/mother figure is going to get killed by her grandsons... probably not.

8. Admit it, you want to see a happy ending after 10 years of following this manga, and Kaguya doing C rank missions sounds like a good idea.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Pls i don't this to happen ;-;

 

[Fegelein]

Pls i don't this to happen ;-;

Why the hell not? I always found their debates to be the most interesting thing in this manga, especially the Obito vs Naruto debate. There's some interesting ideas going on there. If I want fight scenes, Bleach or DBZ are much better.

 

[TheAncientJinchuuriki]

Don't want it to happen. Epic villian needs to have an epic demise

 

[Wesker]

You are right, and I ****ing hate that you are right.

 

[Made in Heaven]

+ she's a woman in kishi's manga, and you know what that means.

 

[Dribbles]

Or you could have faith in Kishi delivering a well-put ending that satisfies everyone? I really don't know what's with people expecting the worse from him all the time. Like, if you don't like how the main character handles things ( way better than any other shounen male protagonist ) then stop reading?

 

[Made in Heaven]

+ she's a woman in kishi's manga, and you know what that means.

 

[sjcoolz]

I honestly thought when she was behind naruto and sasuke she was going to rape them. But yea u just have to put grams to sleep that's all. Naruto read her the 3 little bears.

 

[Fegelein]

Or you could have faith in Kishi delivering a well-put ending that satisfies everyone? I really don't know what's with people expecting the worse from him all the time. Like, if you don't like how the main character handles things ( way better than any other shounen male protagonist ) then stop reading?

Exactly, the way this story is written shows that it must end with a happy ending, with both sides being satisfied, including Kaguya. It can't end with one side crushing the other, because that would leave loose ends, and it's against the morale of the story which seems to be that violence can't end violence.

I don't know why people hate TNJ so much and speak of it as if it happened 99999 times. We've seen the "final villain gets killed" ending an infinite amount of times in all genres. Kishi is clearly against this as was shown right at the beginning of the manga with Zabuza turning to the good side, then Gaara, Nagato, Obito and even Orochimaru, all the main villains were convinced to redeem themselves.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Why the hell not? I always found their debates to be the most interesting thing in this manga, especially the Obito vs Naruto debate. There's some interesting ideas going on there. If I want fight scenes, Bleach or DBZ are much better.

I want an actual pure evil villain. Not some tragic villain, They're so cliche in this manga...

 

[Fegelein]

I want an actual pure evil villain. Not some tragic villain, They're so cliche in this manga...

Pure evil villains are not only cliché in manga, they're cliché in pretty much everything and anything that was ever written starting from Odyssey / Illiad some 3000 years ago. There's billions of stories with pure evil villains. Maybe this just isn't the manga for you.

 

[Cael]

First of all kaguya doesn't seem to be the type to tnj

1. she can hardly speak, and when she does she sounds 4 years old.
that's why Bz is there to talk for her.

2. she wants chakra for only her, if she was willing to take it from her too flesh and only sons then she will try to get it back from 2 people she hardly knew.

3. if she is TNJ what will naruto and sasuke do with there ying and yang powers

4. can you actually see kaguya walking the streets of konoha, I can't sorry.

 

[Hata Hideaki]

I agree with you. Not all of them but to some extent. I get the feeling that she will be satisfied with the duo's response and leave the world or something like that.

 

[Fegelein]

First of all kaguya doesn't seem to be the type to tnj

1. she can hardly speak, and when she does she sounds 4 years old.
that's why Bz is there to talk for her.

2. she wants chakra for only her, if she was willing to take it from her too flesh and only sons then she will try to get it back from 2 people she hardly knew.

3. if she is TNJ what will naruto and sasuke do with there ying and yang powers

4. can you actually see kaguya walking the streets of konoha, I can't sorry.

1. She just doesn't feel like speaking maybe, considering she's way above them in power. Madara barely spoke until the Alliance started being a threat, it was Obito doing all the talking.

2. Kurama also wanted Naruto's chakra all for himself, so did every other tailed beast and anything that ever came out of the God Tree. The solution was never to kill the tailed beasts or to seal them, it was to befriend them.

3. They've already accomplished quite a few things with them, like reviving Gai. Naruto will probably revive Obito as well. Maybe he will use them to positively influence Kaguya rather than to seal her. Then again, Tenten also got the sealing tools and she's not making any use of them.

4. She doesn't need to live in Konoha.

 

[qwenny]

Does she look like a villain that can't be TNJ'd?
Actually, it would be a great end.

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[V h o]

I can't see Kagaya being TNJ, furthermore I can't see her wanting to compromise on her goals. If anything Naruto and Sasuke will seal her by some miracle. I hoping it doesn't involve a death.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Pure evil villains are not only cliché in manga, they're cliché in pretty much everything and anything that was ever written starting from Odyssey / Illiad some 3000 years ago. There's billions of stories with pure evil villains. Maybe this just isn't the manga for you.

I'm talking about naruto, not some other story. The only villains close to the "complete monster" trope were part 1 gaara, Orochimaru and hidan. We all know what happened to them.... Not all villains should become good guys in this story....

 

[dizzynaruto]

Not to mention, if Kaguya gets TNJ'd.... BZ stays with her. I can't picture her and BZ being alive after this.

If she gets TNJ'd i'll be pissed. But who knows, its Kishimoto after all......

 

[Fegelein]

I'm talking about naruto, not some other story. The only villains close to the "complete monster" trope were part 1 gaara, Orochimaru and hidan. We all know what happened to them.... Not all villains should become good guys in this story....

Both Gaara and Orochimaru turned good, Hidan was very secondary and was only created for the sake of the Akatsuki plot, he was fodder and didn't have a tragic backstory, he chose to be evil.