Reasons Why I Dislike Naruto (Character)

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I don't agree with everything you posted but I can honestly say I no longer like Naruto's character for many valid reasons. I don't exactly dislike him either, he's just.. there. He contradicts himself time and time again and he hasn't shown what's needed to be any kind of real leader other than displaying powerful abilities. There's so much more to to being Hokage..

Nice read I guess, better than most of the garbage around here.

Inb4 some Naruto fan/anti-Sasuke fan tells me Naruto solos my fave when Sasuke isn't my favorite nor is this about power level.
 
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I agree. Nardo is pretty dreck =/.
I guess yeah.
I agree with you, but to me it makes Naruto interesting

But good luck arguing to others. Sometimes it gets harder as the years go by lol
That's all goods it's your opinion. I know at least it drags out the trolls.
he over acts ,after he got stronger (bm and above)
By over act, what do you mean?
The true reason^^ I agree
Nahh bro, I know that Naruto> Sasuke by feats. I don't have to dislike him for that, its for genuine reasons.
naruto's diversity:


All Directions Shuriken
Chakra Transfer Technique
Combination Transformation
Erupting Propulsion Fist
Flight Technique
Frog Kata
Multiple Shadow Clone Technique
Negative Emotions Sensing
New Sexy Technique
Nine-Tails Chakra Mode
One Thousand Years of Death
Rasengan
Sensing
Sexy Technique
Shadow Clone Technique
Shadow Shuriken Technique
Six Paths Sage Technique
Summoning Technique
Tailed Beast Chakra Arms
Tailed Beast Shockwave
Torii Seal
Truth-Seeking Ball
Typhoon Water Vortex Technique
Straight off the Naruto wiki i guess? I never denied Naruto didn't have the capability to be diverse, its just that Kishimoto is showing like three jutsu of his and the way he is portraying him to be is getting a bit on my nerves to be honest.
I can probably feel u on everything except #2
This is only my opinion, but does seemed to have strayed from his original ideals, Naruto isn't relatable (at least to me), the outfit isn't a big deal there are times that I don't like Sasuke's outfit as well, and lastly his arsenal is kinda tired

That being said we r all entitled to our different opinions, it doesn't mean Naruto's character sucks just that Naruto's character doesn't suit our interests
Agreed. This is just as to why I dislike naruto
I respect your opinion, but I still like Naruto's character. Though I agree with you on the Rasengan thing u_u
Lol, yeah.
I still like him though, nice elaborated thread i guess.
No prob your opinion.Thank you.
 

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Why is it such a big deal if Naruto has help from Kyuubi ir SO6P or whatever?

List of people who wouldn't have gotten far without borrowed powers or help:

Obito
Madara
Sasuke
Kabuto
Kakashi
Anyone who was a jin
Danzo

I see no one hating on these characters for borrowed power or help
 

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naruto{character} = garbage

OT: amazing thread +rep.
 

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Too much massive Pnj. How is it Pnj? An Idiot becomes genius. Yang >>>>> yang + yin. 8 hours training beat years of training for a moron
 

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everyone has help, he learned shadow clone on his own and used it for rasengan.
everyone has borrowed power,
know thy enemy, naruto cried for gaara and haku.
orange is a mix between yellow and red plus uzumaki. we dont know much about uzumaki yet tho.
 

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Straight off the Naruto wiki i guess? I never denied Naruto didn't have the capability to be diverse, its just that Kishimoto is showing like three jutsu of his and the way he is portraying him to be is getting a bit on my nerves to be honest.
so sasuke with 4 jutsu better than naruto with 3...
 
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Why is it such a big deal if Naruto has help from Kyuubi ir SO6P or whatever?

List of people who wouldn't have gotten far without borrowed powers or help:

Obito
Madara
Sasuke
Kabuto
Kakashi
Anyone who was a jin
Danzo

I see no one hating on these characters for borrowed power or help

Really? REALLY?
 

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Why is it such a big deal if Naruto has help from Kyuubi ir SO6P or whatever?

List of people who wouldn't have gotten far without borrowed powers or help:

Obito
Madara
Sasuke
Kabuto
Kakashi
Anyone who was a jin
Danzo

I see no one hating on these characters for borrowed power or help

There's a huge difference between borrowing $900000 and a dime, don't mix them together
 

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This is not a bashing thread by any means. This thread may go against your opinion, however its purpose is to point out the flaws and inconsistencies that revolve around the main character Naruto Uzumaki.

1.It is.
2.You didn't do either


(Not in a particular order...)
The contradicting message of his character
Since part 1 Naruto's purpose was to show us, that through hard work and perseverance you can achieve great things. This is evident during the initial progression of the story with Naruto being portrayed as a typical useless prankster with the impossible ambition of becoming the respected holder of the title Hokage. Then nearing the end of part 1, as a the equal rival of the prodigy Sasuke Uchiha. Achieving it through hard work and help from his friends. The inspirational "message" which was Naruto's character,has greatly reformed over the advancement of the series. This is due to Naruto having been born with far more capability than most Shinobi. Being part of the Uzumaki clan which hold very powerful abilities, as well as growing with a powerful chakra beast sealed within him; which can be argued to be a disadvantage as well. A vast majority of Naruto's victories have been due to these. However, a deciding contribitor as to why Naruto's message is a contradicting one, is the fact the fact that he is "The Child of Prophecy". He was destined to succeed, fate will always be on his side, no matter the harshipds he may have faced, or will face, he will succeed. This completely goes against what the "original" Naruto,which we came to love,was all about. Leaving his entire character as a mere contradiction.​

3.He learned Shadow clones and defeated Mizuki in the first chapter, how is he useless?
4.You just said "that through hard work and perseverance you can achieve great things" so how is it impossible?
5.So you just skipped the entire manga and all the parts where he trained, right?
6. So is he useless or does he have far more capability than most Shinobi? Make up your mind.
7.The Kyubi caused him more harm then it did good.
8.So he wins because he's an Uzumaki now? K sure.
9.You have NO idea what the prophecy even was do you? Go and google it, and Naruto said it himself, you can fight destiny.
10.The hell are you talking about?


His inability to achieve anything alone
A lot of people will disagree with me on this one, however this a reason as to why I dislike him. An important determinant for a majority of Naruto's victories has been the significant amount of external assistance he receives. Albeit through the Kyuubi, Kakashi, Konaha 11,even his deceased parents in spiritual form,etc. This puts his character in a bad view for me, because it always leaves me asking the question,"Would he have been able to do that without its/his/her help?". Till this date I cannot think of one fight he has truly won by himself. I know that this is meant to be what his character is about, growing strong through others. Viewing it through the audiences perspective, it only seems to come out anti climatic and "stale". I hope Naruto will achieve something at least by himself before the end of the manga but that's just me being hopeful.​

11.This is why your parents hate you.


His unrealistic emotional capacity
I know this is a fictional piece of work. But it is a fictional piece that is meant to relate with us. The things Naruto has gone through would be like hell on earth, and the root has been a select group of individuals, Kurama,Madara, BZ, Obito,etc. Yet Naruto has the unrealistic emotional strength to forgive anyone who has caused him pain, without a second thought, going as far as to think their "cool" (Obito). I for one simply can't comprehend how this is meant to be realistic and relatable, for us the readers, Naruto is able to brush away their previous actions and accept them as companions, without even a second thought. It is understandable that he forgives them for their misguided actions, but to accept them and befriend them like their just another classmate....It almost as if he is intended to be this "perfect" character. The exact opposite of what a realistic and relatable character should be like. We should feel their pain, their actions should be "human-like", understandable, to truly be an excellent an believable character.

12.Like every other shonen manga ever.
13. It's not unrealistic, your just a petty person.
14. You don't even read the manga do you?
15. You simply aren't mature enough.
16.Don't group me together with you.
17. When has that ever happened?
18. Your just ranting here, all of that has no meaning.


Character representation
Usually a characters appearance and design is supposed to hold some significance to characters nature or purpose. What is Naruto's design suppose to mean?I mean he's western blonde boy whose wearing a bright orange jumpsuit. In comparison to character designs such as LeLouch from Code Geass[ ], Ichigo from Bleach[ ], and Vegeta[ ]. Each of their respective designs holds a story behind it, a meaning. Naruto's on the other hand is not only visually displeasing but cheesy, and it has barely changed since his introdcution. Moving on to his dialouge, smh. I know I'm not the only one that is absolutley fed up of hearing "believe it" and "dattebayo" every episode, its extremely repetitive and irritating now. A character can be likeable in many ways, design and representation is one of them, and frankly Naruto's is terrible.​

19.What the hell are you talking about? Please explain to me why Ichigo has Orange hair. Or why Vegeta's hair is half his height. What reasons could you possibly be talking about?
20.Your super salty for absolutely no reason.
21.So says you, the expert.

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B] Abilities[/B]
Naruto has recently been displaying very impressive feats, there is no denying this. However up till this point what has Naruto been using for a majority of his battle? Rasengan variants and Kage Bunshin, smh. This is again extremely repetitive, since we've been seeing Kage Bunshin since chapter 1. I am not sure whether Kishimoto is purposely doing this, to try and kick in the nostalgia factor, but for personally it's only caused a multitude of face palms. Even for someone coming from a diverse background as his, with the Uzumaki clan, and his fathers S/T, he still only displays a couple justu and their variations, really makes you question his versatility as a shinobi. But more importantly makes it much easier for much of his battles to grow "stale", and dislike them.

22.Then stop denying it.
23. As apposed to what? Tsukiyomi and Susanoo?
24.I'm convinced your mentally challenged now, Do you know how a manga works? Charachters ALWAYS have a signature move. Do you get mad at Goku for using Kamehama wave? Or for Ki blast?
25.You actually don't read the manga do you? Even those that read the first chapter know his parents are dead. But you...
26.You mean like everyone else in the entire NV?
27.Are you trying to bash because you sound autsistic here. Name 5 different techniques Sasuke has used since he got stabbed. They can even be variations on the same technique. But you, can't can you?
28.You have ADD then.

Would List more, but I'm trying to keep it short. So what are your thoughts? Do you agree? and if you disagree, why so?

0/10 You get no points for spelling.
 

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This is not a bashing thread by any means. This thread may go against your opinion, however its purpose is to point out the flaws and inconsistencies that revolve around the main character Naruto Uzumaki.

(Not in a particular order...)
The contradicting message of his character
Since part 1 Naruto's purpose was to show us, that through hard work and perseverance you can achieve great things. This is evident during the initial progression of the story with Naruto being portrayed as a typical useless prankster with the impossible ambition of becoming the respected holder of the title Hokage. Then nearing the end of part 1, as a the equal rival of the prodigy Sasuke Uchiha. Achieving it through hard work and help from his friends. The inspirational "message" which was Naruto's character,has greatly reformed over the advancement of the series. This is due to Naruto having been born with far more capability than most Shinobi. Being part of the Uzumaki clan which hold very powerful abilities, as well as growing with a powerful chakra beast sealed within him; which can be argued to be a disadvantage as well. A vast majority of Naruto's victories have been due to these. However, a deciding contribitor as to why Naruto's message is a contradicting one, is the fact the fact that he is "The Child of Prophecy". He was destined to succeed, fate will always be on his side, no matter the harshipds he may have faced, or will face, he will succeed. This completely goes against what the "original" Naruto,which we came to love,was all about. Leaving his entire character as a mere contradiction.​


Gai.

Neji.

Sakura. ( yea ya I know all the rant about her but she has no KG or special clan tech and she still managed a lot)

Naruto may have gotten some extras due to his parentage ( Chakra pool and kyuubi etc) but he could end up in a lock up if Danzou got his wish only to be let loose as a beast in emergency. What he earned - the respect, friendships and leadership qualities ( in his own way) were earned by himself. Even Kuirama's and other bijju's support was won over. Overcoming one own dark side and hate is not an easy task. Nagato, Itachi and Bee would vouch for that.

Most of all if someone has an extra talent for something and also works on it himself to make himself better then he is also going to surpass those who don't have it. Lee's handwork puts him above a lot of shinobies, as doesn't Gai's. But yea there is always a limit. They cannot be Madara. But I bet they could beat some normal Uchihas on a good day. There are good.

Just because Neji or Lee work hard it doesn't lessen the hard work of Naruto or Sasuke or anyone else who also worked hard.

His inability to achieve anything alone
A lot of people will disagree with me on this one, however this a reason as to why I dislike him. An important determinant for a majority of Naruto's victories has been the significant amount of external assistance he receives. Albeit through the Kyuubi, Kakashi, Konaha 11,even his deceased parents in spiritual form,etc. This puts his character in a bad view for me, because it always leaves me asking the question,"Would he have been able to do that without its/his/her help?". Till this date I cannot think of one fight he has truly won by himself. I know that this is meant to be what his character is about, growing strong through others. Viewing it through the audiences perspective, it only seems to come out anti climatic and "stale". I hope Naruto will achieve something at least by himself before the end of the manga but that's just me being hopeful.​

That's the thing- no man is island. Even Sasuke wouldn't learn much if he was really alone and would be sitting making sand castle just two chapters ago. Even Itachi took help of Tobi for his massacre mission. To top it Itachi specifically assured Naruto that he shouldn't even try doing it all by himself or he would end up being someone like Madara. Being alone didn't help Obito either despite his awesome powers.

His ability to draw followers and people willing to help him is his own. What next? Could Gandhi do what he did alone? Could any general what they achieved could achieve all of it by themselves?

Duels are won on one on one basis. Battles and wars involve more and more people. Especially when the other side have much better guns.

His unrealistic emotional capacity
I know this is a fictional piece of work. But it is a fictional piece that is meant to relate with us. The things Naruto has gone through would be like hell on earth, and the root has been a select group of individuals, Kurama,Madara, BZ, Obito,etc. Yet Naruto has the unrealistic emotional strength to forgive anyone who has caused him pain, without a second thought, going as far as to think their "cool" (Obito). I for one simply can't comprehend how this is meant to be realistic and relatable, for us the readers, Naruto is able to brush away their previous actions and accept them as companions, without even a second thought. It is understandable that he forgives them for their misguided actions, but to accept them and befriend them like their just another classmate....It almost as if he is intended to be this "perfect" character. The exact opposite of what a realistic and relatable character should be like. We should feel their pain, their actions should be "human-like", understandable, to truly be an excellent an believable character.​

He trained for that particular capacity since childhood and Nagato and Bee augmented on it. Or he would be like part 1 Gara or worse.

The past is past and it's good to remember history to avoid the same mistake in future if possible. But there is a point someone has to break the cycle of anger and hatred and accepting the losses , move on.

Naruto wasn't talking about Tobi but Obito. Who when he came to himself tried to mend some of his mistakes and died saving others. BZ had manipulated him all though his Tobi ID. Obito hurt many but BZ was not one of those people and in fact he was behind it all. So while anyone else who got affected may have a right to be angry at him but not BZ. Naruto's reply to him was in that context.

Empathy is one of the basic aspect of Naruto's personality and it's what makes him Naruto.

Sometimes it's all one can have to show some light in us. Kabuto healed Hinata ( after her fight with Neji, and Sakura after she was hit by four tailed Naruto). He didn't have to. It was a medic in him who when there was nothing to gain or lose from his side ( he was not fighting those two) couldn't just walk of ignoring them completely.

If you have any empathy within yourself you may some day find it very hard to let someone you hate just die if he is not a threat anymore. You won't know when you dialed 911 at the same time cursing even yourself or wondering why you even bother.
Character representation
Usually a characters appearance and design is supposed to hold some significance to characters nature or purpose. What is Naruto's design suppose to mean? I mean he's western blonde boy whose wearing a bright orange jumpsuit. In comparison to character designs such as LeLouch from Code Geass[ ], Ichigo from Bleach[ ], and Vegeta[ ]. Each of their respective designs holds a story behind it, a meaning. Naruto's on the other hand is not only visually displeasing but cheesy, and it has barely changed since his introdcution. Moving on to his dialouge, smh. I know I'm not the only one that is absolutley fed up of hearing "believe it" and "dattebayo" every episode, its extremely repetitive and irritating now. A character can be likeable in many ways, design and representation is one of them, and frankly Naruto's is terrible.​

I haven't read "believe it" in a long time in manga- not all that much to remember. It's just a character quirk anyway. As for his design? Have you even tried to check?

Colours used for him directly match with the symbolism they are supposed to represent. Anime colours their hair and eye colours are hardly ever used casually without paying attention to it. Even the design on Seal on him in BM mode is not random. That matches with Bodhisatva. Google them. Symbolism is so heavily used in smallest things I wonder how you think it was random. Let me know if you want links. ( I will add them if i get time later on.)

Abilities
Naruto has recently been displaying very impressive feats, there is no denying this. However up till this point what has Naruto been using for a majority of his battle? Rasengan variants and Kage Bunshin, smh. This is again extremely repetitive, since we've been seeing Kage Bunshin since chapter 1. I am not sure whether Kishimoto is purposely doing this, to try and kick in the nostalgia factor, but for personally it's only caused a multitude of face palms. Even for someone coming from a diverse background as his, with the Uzumaki clan, and his fathers S/T, he still only displays a couple justu and their variations, really makes you question his versatility as a shinobi. But more importantly makes it much easier for much of his battles to grow "stale", and dislike them.​

Would List more, but I'm trying to keep it short. So what are your thoughts? Do you agree? and if you disagree, why so?

It working so why not? Naruto did mention that diversion works best when someone is as OP as Kaguya against him. He did get extra chakra from the Sage. Why should he dump something which he can put to optimal use? Just because it's not flashy? Hiruzen told Oro years back number of jutsus you know doesn't matter all that much. How you use it does. ( or something like that. Haven't checked the dialogue in ages).
 
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There's a huge difference between borrowing $900000 and a dime, don't mix them together
Juubi and Mokuton are dimes :|? The Double standards just leaps of this post.
 

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Except that was never the theme of part 1 Naruto, in part 1 Naruto the theme was fighting to protect or for others = achieving great things.


The entire manga displays how naruto was transformed into the person with such an enormous emotional capacity. Also it's hilarious to expect someone who's suppose to lead everyone to have the emotional capacity and moral bar set at the same level as a normal person. The manga has clearly gone through Naruto's thought process in overcoming the hatred and baggage that someone like you might experience in a similar situation. So while people might not be able to make the decisions he makes in those situations because of their own moral flaws, the readers should at the very least understand why naruto makes those decisions.


Naruto's design is based on the uzumaki clan which is why he has all those swirls around him. Naruto's color "orange" is due to his mother being 'red' and his father being 'yellow'. So read the manga.

The rest is just personal taste.

History's greatest leaders, have been those who were able to connect with their subordinates, being not so superior to them. Giving them hope that they can achieve these things as well. And exactly why can he simply brush aside human nature because he is the MC? Why can he avoid the things which make us human? You may be able to understand as to why he makes those decisions, but i for one cannot, thinking the man that destroyed your village and played a siginifcant role in the death of your parents, is "cool" is beyond me. Spirals are fine, Naruto was introduced before his parents so Naruto will instead decide what his parents will look like, do you get me? The rest is my opinion with the manga to back me up.

This whole business about Soloing is rubbish, there's even a established Parellel between Naruto and Ashura that teamwork is the way to understand each other, you keep talking about messages the manga sends yet fail to get that one, NB members are so obssessive with this whole solo business its beyond annoying.
Na

It isn't about that, in my opinion having an MC that has not,till date, accomplished anything on his own is frustating if you ask me. Naruto was intrduced before Ashura, so ashura was kind of a scape goat to justify Naruto's reliance on others power.
i don't like or hate nardo but apparently, having the same goal as him rids you of all of your sins haha
Haha true true.
I don't agree with everything you posted but I can honestly say I no longer like Naruto's character for many valid reasons. I don't exactly dislike him either, he's just.. there. He contradicts himself time and time again and he hasn't shown what's needed to be any kind of real leader other than displaying powerful abilities. There's so much more to to being Hokage..

Nice read I guess, better than most of the garbage around here.

Inb4 some Naruto fan/anti-Sasuke fan tells me Naruto solos my fave when Sasuke isn't my favorite nor is this about power level.
Thanks for your input. +rep.
Why is it such a big deal if Naruto has help from Kyuubi ir SO6P or whatever?

List of people who wouldn't have gotten far without borrowed powers or help:

Obito
Madara
Sasuke
Kabuto
Kakashi
Anyone who was a jin
Danzo

I see no one hating on these characters for borrowed power or help
I don't have a problem with borrowed powers, its the fact that Naruto not accomplishing anything by himself till date that bugs me.
naruto{character} = garbage

OT: amazing thread +rep.
Thanks bro.
Too much massive Pnj. How is it Pnj? An Idiot becomes genius. Yang >>>>> yang + yin. 8 hours training beat years of training for a moron
Yeah that is a bit of a reason too i guess..
 

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Wow, Ira and Gagster went all all out Lol

OT: I disagree with a few parts tbh :/ but opinions are opinions
 

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Juubi and Mokuton are dimes :|? The Double standards just leaps of this post.

Read the post properly then you will know people comparing biju to konohamaru's chakra. The double standard is in your head
 

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Wow, Ira and Gagster went all all out Lol

OT: I disagree with a few parts tbh :/ but opinions are opinions

As a functioning member of society, I just can't let this level of bullsh☻t slide.
 
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