Reaper Death Seal

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um no you all fail i already explained it you all need to read before being retarded

It's not that we are retarted, it's that you progressed on your own way beyond us, we can no longer understand what you wrote. You were somehow able to make a connection with Tobirama and Edo Tensei in this question... you amaze me :worshippy:
 

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It's not that we are retarted, it's that you progressed on your own way beyond us, we can no longer understand what you wrote. You were somehow able to make a connection with Tobirama and Edo Tensei in this question... you amaze me :worshippy:

Agree both of these guys deserve medals, one for awesomeness and one for complete garbled stupidity.
 

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Ummm what? I don't recall this ever being stated. People need to stop saying things as if they're facts when in reality it's just simple speculation.

Actually, it was fact. It was stated by Kushina that she taught Minato Sealing Techniques of the Uzumaki Clan.
 

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Actually, it was fact. It was stated by Kushina that she taught Minato Sealing Techniques of the Uzumaki Clan.

2 key words right there in sealing techniques. Her statement said NOTHING about the reaper death seal jutsu thus nothing about you saying she taught it to him is fact, it's an opinion.

Learn to differentiate between the two.
 

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I dont think you automatically die when you summon the Death God.. Hes a summon so im sure you can summon him and cancel the summon if you want to.. The only part that kills you is when you perform the sealing part of the jutsu which is when he sticks his hand through your chest.. So IMO it is possible that he summoned the Death God before..
 

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2 key words right there in sealing techniques. Her statement said NOTHING about the reaper death seal jutsu thus nothing about you saying she taught it to him is fact, it's an opinion.

Learn to differentiate between the two.

Well, from my understanding, RDS is a sealing technique. I, in my opinion, came to the conclusion and reading around the Manga (Datebooks), confirmed it as such.

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Fuuin = Sealing
 
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Well, from my understanding, RDS is a sealing technique. I, in my opinion, came to the conclusion and reading around the Manga (Datebooks), confirmed it as such.

FTG has to do with seals and it was created by Minato, not taught to him by Kushina. Not every sealing jutsu has to do with the Uzumaki clan.

And again it's not a fact, it's an opinion, so you really shouldn't run around treating it as such. Unless there's a entry in the databook or manga statement saying Kushina taught Minato RDS then it's simply speculation, nothing more.

You can't confirm something that's nothing more than speculation.
 

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2 key words right there in sealing techniques. Her statement said NOTHING about the reaper death seal jutsu thus nothing about you saying she taught it to him is fact, it's an opinion.

Learn to differentiate between the two.

You want facts? fine then.

The effects of the jutsu were already known by Minato. This much proves that the Justu had already being used.

The jutsu takes the user's life so the first person that performed it and made him discover it's lethal effects is dead

Minato used the Jutsu while knowing the effects so he is not the first user

If he's not the first user, someone taught him

If someone taught him, he did not invent it
 

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You want facts? fine then.

The effects of the jutsu were already known by Minato. This much proves that the Justu had already being used.

The jutsu takes the user's life so the first person that performed it and made him discover it's lethal effects is dead

Minato used the Jutsu while knowing the effects so he is not the first user

If he's not the first user, someone taught him

If someone taught him, he did not invent it

When did I ever deny that someone may have taught it to him? I said there's no proof that KUSHINA was the one who taught it to him.

People need to read posts properly before replying.
 

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When did I ever deny that someone may have taught it to him? I said there's no proof that KUSHINA was the one who taught it to him.

People need to read posts properly before replying.

I did read, you bolded the part saying that Minato did not invent it + the part that she was the one to taught him.

Had you simply bolded the second part, I would have agreed, it is very likely to be her but there is no proof.

Next time read what you did yourself
 

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I did read, you bolded the part saying that Minato did not invent it + the part that she was the one to taught him.

Had you simply bolded the second part, I would have agreed, it is very likely to be her but there is no proof.

Next time read what you did yourself

My following post was completely about him being taught the jutsu by Kushina, so you should've been able to come to the conclusion that it had nothing to do with Minato inventing or not inventing the jutsu.

I can't help it if you can't use common sense to come to the most logical conclusion.
 

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My following post was completely about him being taught the jutsu by Kushina, so you should've been able to come to the conclusion that it had nothing to do with Minato inventing or not inventing the jutsu.

I can't help it if you can't use common sense to come to the logical conclusion.

You were answering to a comment completely about Kushina too, it is normal that you'd speak of her

And now you're the one making conclusion over assumptions despite it being the very thing you are criticizing
 

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FTG has to do with seals and it was created by Minato, not taught to him by Kushina. Not every sealing jutsu has to do with the Uzumaki clan.

And again it's not a fact, it's an opinion, so you really shouldn't run around treating it as such. Unless there's a entry in the databook or manga statement saying Kushina taught Minato RDS then it's simply speculation, nothing more.

You can't confirm something that's nothing more than speculation.

I understand that as well:

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However, it could be speculated the the FTG formula could be a variant of the Uzumaki Sealing Techniques. He might have customize its use for his own gain, but you can't rule out that it was somehow related to Kushina teaching him Sealing Jutsu.
 
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You were answering to a comment completely about Kushina too, it is normal that you'd speak of her

And it should've told you I was only speaking of him being taught the jutsu by Kushina, not him inventing the jutsu.

And now you're the one making conclusion over assumptions despite it being the very thing you are criticizing

Despite my post being completely about Kushina and nothing about Minato inventing or not inventing the jutsu. That should've enough proof for you right there.

Common sense my friend.

I understand that as well:

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However, it could be speculated the the FTG formula could be a variant of the Uzumaki Sealing Techniques. He might have customize its use for his own gain, but you can't rule out that it was somehow related to Kushina teaching him Sealing Jutsu.

Unless there's a manga scan or databook entry stating so then it remains just that, speculation. It's fact Minato invented the jutsu, so it's pretty much fact he invented it on his own without any help unless stated otherwise.
 
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And it should've told you I was only speaking of him being taught the jutsu by Kushina, not him inventing the jutsu.



Despite my post being completely about Kushina and nothing about Minato inventing or not inventing the jutsu. That should've enough proof for you right there.

Common sense my friend.



Unless there's a manga scan or databook entry stating so then it remains just that, speculation. It's fact Minato invented the jutsu, so it's pretty much fact he invented it on his own without any help unless stated otherwise.

Something like that <LOL> However, I think or know it was stated somewhere that Minato was taught RDS from Kushina. It most be my imagination or fitting answers in that I don't know. IDK, I don't really care. It's all speculation at the end of the day, like you said. Their is no point in me arguing any further and a apologies if I was wrong.
 

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none of you understand the 2nd hokage tobirama made the jutsu and it has been in the forbidden scroll in the hokage mansion ever since he didnt learn it from kushina he learned it from the scroll whats so hard to understand about that i dont know its not that hard to understand all of you who dont know or understand fail
 

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none of you understand the 2nd hokage tobirama made the jutsu and it has been in the forbidden scroll in the hokage mansion ever since he didnt learn it from kushina he learned it from the scroll whats so hard to understand about that i dont know its not that hard to understand all of you who dont know or understand fail

Dude you're an idiot! Tobirama did not invent RDS
 

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The only techniques stated in the manga that minato created was rasengan and ftg. Whilst it hasnt been stated directly that the reaper technique is one of the uzumaki sealing techniques that minato taught him, its highly likely, almost certain.

Here kushina stated that she taught him a bunch of sealing techniques and that the uzumaki specialised in this. She also stated that the 4 element seal is an uzumaki technique;

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Reason i say this is firstly because the uzumaki clan was feared for their sealing ability they were killed off and the rest scattered;

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Its no surprise that because of this not even orochimaru somebody who wants to know all the techniques in world and a master of forbidden techniques didnt know about this sealing technique;

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Secondly when minato stated that he would use the reaper technique, kushina reaction when she said "But that the user be", clearly hints that she knows of this technique very well and infact i wouldnt be surprised if its one of the techniques she taught minato;

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She even stated it here clearly when she said "why the reaper technique, there is no reason for you to die";

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Whilst its not stated that the technique is of the uzumaki's sealing technique, the manga has only stated 2 techniques that minato created and these are rasengan and ftg. Its not very hard to wrap around your head that this technique is most likely an uzumaki sealing technique because how powerful teh sealing technique is, the reputation of the clan, kushina knwoing exactly what the technique does and finally she teaching minato a bunch of uzumaki teachniques. Further more minato produced the 4 and 8 trigram sealing technique that night and both are uzumaki sealing techniques, its not far fetched to assume that the other sealing technique he produced that night which is the reaper techniques is also an uzumaki sealing technique.


Anway op, in order to use the technique it seems you have to sigh a contract and know the handseals;

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By contract it could mean two things. It could mean you have to sigh a contract similar to summoning a animal to help you in battle you sigh a contract. Or what hiruzen could mean by those who form a contract can see it, meaning those who use the technique. Those who's soul has been taken (the soul is the contract) can see the technique.

Believe its the latter
 
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