READ: KCM Naruto vs Edo Itachi

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KCM Naruto vs Edo Itachi

Starting Distance: 30m
Location: Naruto vs Itachi
Intel: Manga
Intent: To Kill
Mindset: IC
Restrictions: more than 3 Shadow Clones for Naruto, KA and edo regeneration for itachi
Stipulations: Naruto only has to take down itachi. Assume that he gets sealed right after that, he starts with his clones out


Who wins?
 
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Like Beans said, Itachi shits.

1. Chou FRS is eaten up by Amaterasu.
2. Yata Mirror tanks and reflects any regular sized FRS or Rasengan.

Naruto can't get past Susanoo no matter what he does, while Itachi can tank or counter all his attacks. Match either ends with Totsuka cutting him down, or Naruto reverting to base and getting one shotted.
 

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Like Beans said, Itachi shits.

1. Chou FRS is eaten up by Amaterasu.
2. Yata Mirror tanks and reflects any regular sized FRS or Rasengan.

Naruto can't get past Susanoo no matter what he does, while Itachi can tank or counter all his attacks. Match either ends with Totsuka cutting him down, or Naruto reverting to base and getting one shotted.
- Doesn't Itachi have to adjust his chakra ratio to that of Chou FRS? Like adjust to his chakra percentage to that of Naruto . Even Dust cloud which is pretty large but Naruto just use ordinary bombs(Middle left) which would block Itachi's view like it did to the Rinnegan? Plus Naruto can just use chakra arms from underneath taking advantage of that smoke that would block Itachi's eye sight.

- Naruto can also use chakra arms to evade the Enton as well. Like he did against the 3rd.

- Mini BD? but I'm pretty sure Naruto can evade his attacks and when he summons Ma and Pa, they can prepare the Genjutsu which would end Itachi.
 

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- Doesn't Itachi have to adjust his chakra ratio to that of Chou FRS? Like adjust to his chakra percentage to that of Naruto . Even Dust cloud which is pretty large but Naruto just use ordinary bombs(Middle left) which would block Itachi's view like it did to the Rinnegan? Plus Naruto can just use chakra arms from underneath taking advantage of that smoke that would block Itachi's eye sight.
Nope. If he wants to make a combo attack with Naruto like Sasuke did, then he'd have to. But he doesn't need to nor is that his goal, so he just needs to engulf it with flame. Sharingan has already shown to see through So that's not going to block Itachi's eyesight. He'd have to use Dust Cloud, and even if Ma used her Dust Cloud. Dust Cloud is created via Fuuton. Itachi would just light Ma's Fuuton stream up and she'd burn to death, ending all chances of Gama Rinsho being used.

The lack of a smokescreen means that Naruto never gets his hands on Itachi from underneath his Susanoo.

- Naruto can also use chakra arms to evade the Enton as well. Like he did against the 3rd.
Itachi can't even use Enton. We are talking about Amaterasu here, and there's no way he's going to maneuver his FRS so that it doesn't get hit by Ama.

- Mini BD? but I'm pretty sure Naruto can evade his attacks and when he summons Ma and Pa, they can prepare the Genjutsu which would end Itachi.
Mini BD doesn't even have the feats to scratch a V3 let alone a V4 w/ Yata. It'd get reflected and Naruto would die if he tries this. The very moment he summons Ma and Pa, Amaterasu would light them up. Not to mention Naruto would have to hold Itachi off the whole time they are prepping the Genjutsu, or he'd have to carry them on his shoulders and basically run away the whole time, which isn't going to fly.

1. Shunshin isn't a continuous movement.
2. Because of reason 1, Itachi can just spam large amounts of Amaterasu across the immediate fighting area, to either catch Naruto (doubtful) or to prevent him from running away from Itachi.
 

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Nope. If he wants to make a combo attack with Naruto like Sasuke did, then he'd have to. But he doesn't need to nor is that his goal, so he just needs to engulf it with flame. Sharingan has already shown to see through So that's not going to block Itachi's eyesight. He'd have to use Dust Cloud, and even if Ma used her Dust Cloud. Dust Cloud is created via Fuuton. Itachi would just light Ma's Fuuton stream up and she'd burn to death, ending all chances of Gama Rinsho being used.
What I don't really understand is why exactly would he would want to adjust his chakra percentage to Naruto's? Using a Combo shouldn't matter because there should be a reason why he'd do so..If not, I don't see why he didn't just use Amaterasu regardless of the Chakra percentage. That signifies something which is why I said he'll have to adjust.

As for the the Smokebombs, the Rinnegan has a pretty good insight being able to see the body network . It showed the ability to see Gai's pressure points like Madara said and Kakashi with the Sharingan said he couldn't see the pressure points



The lack of a smokescreen means that Naruto never gets his hands on Itachi from underneath his Susanoo.
However you agree with a smokescreen he can? Why can the Rinnegan see through but the Sharingan even though it's arguable that the Rinnegan has shown better insight now?

Itachi can't even use Enton. We are talking about Amaterasu here, and there's no way he's going to maneuver his FRS so that it doesn't get hit by Ama.
Lol thought it was Sasuke for a sec.


Mini BD doesn't even have the feats to scratch a V3 let alone a V4 w/ Yata. It'd get reflected and Naruto would die if he tries this. The very moment he summons Ma and Pa, Amaterasu would light them up. Not to mention Naruto would have to hold Itachi off the whole time they are prepping the Genjutsu, or he'd have to carry them on his shoulders and basically run away the whole time, which isn't going to fly.
Ok but then he counters with Chou FRS from the screen as a viable option. Itachi would have to build up chakra for Amaterasu but this would be hard to anticipate and too fast to see.

Naruto can use FCD to restrain Susanoo while he summons Ma and Pa though...If Itachi uses Amaterasu, that won't necessarily help the situation of the summon being on top him since Ma and Pa can take advantage of this using Frog song to prevent to summon from moving.

1. Shunshin isn't a continuous movement.
2. Because of reason 1, Itachi can just spam large amounts of Amaterasu across the immediate fighting area, to either catch Naruto (doubtful) or to prevent him from running away from Itachi.
I think Naruto evades that. Implied with how Raikage charged up to counter the MS ability which was based on speed..KCM Naruto shouldn't have problem.
 
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What I don't really understand is why exactly would he would want to adjust his chakra percentage to Naruto's? Using a Combo shouldn't matter because there should be a reason why he'd do so..If not, I don't see why he did't just use Amaterasu regardless of the Chakra percentage. That signifies something which is why I said he'll have to adjust.
Look what happened when Sasuke didn't bother to adjust anything with Naruto's FRS. It was completely turned into black flame. When he matched Naruto's FRS with his Enton, it created an Enton explosion far greater than the size of the original ball, mainly because Naruto's Rasengan was still intact in the middle.




Sasuke adjusted to make the combo attack better. Itachi doesn't have to do that.

As for the the Smokebombs, the Rinnegan has a pretty good insight being able to see the body network . It showed the ability to see Gai's pressure points like Madara said and Kakashi with the Sharingan said he couldn't see the pressure points
Rinnegan and Sharingan work completely different and are different Dojutsu altogether. It being able to do one thing better than the Sharingan doesn't mean it can do everything better than the Sharingan. Rinnegan hasn't shown the ability to see chakra through solid objects like Sharingan has. So it doesn't get that feat.




However you agree with a smokescreen he can? Why can the Rinnegan see through but the Sharingan even though it's arguable that the Rinnegan has shown better insight now?
A smokescreen that would actually work? Possibly. But then there's the fact that Itachi would see Naruto's chakra arm coming at him from underground just how Sasuke saw Deidara's C2 landmines underground.


Lol thought it was Sasuke for a sec.
Lmao.


Ok but then he counters with Chou FRS from the screen as a viable option. Itachi would have to build up chakra for Amaterasu but this would be hard to anticipate and too fast to see.
Why would COFRS be too fast to see? The moment it leaves the smoke screen is the moment Itachi catches it with Amaterasu, and it's is not going to be any faster than it'd take for it to leave the smokescreen and then take out Itachi.


Naruto can use FCD to restrain Susanoo while he summons Ma and Pa though...If Itachi uses Amaterasu, that won't necessarily help the situation of the summon being on top him since Ma and Pa can take advantage of this using Frog song to prevent to summon from moving.
If Naruto tries using FCD, Itachi simply uses a giant Amaterasu on the summoned toad, or he puts down Susanoo and evades the summoning. Or he makes a clone and it takes care of the toad and then they both take care of Ma and Pa the moment they are summoned using Amaterasu. Either way, FCD never hits Itachi in the first place.


I think Naruto evades that. Implied with how Raikage charged up to counter the MS ability which was based on speed..KCM Naruto shouldn't have problem.
Well yeah, of course he'd evade it. But if the whole immediate area is on fire, then he'll have trouble moving around. Not to mention his KCM has a time limit, so all Itachi has to do is shut down anyway this guy has of winning and he's pretty much done. Though since OP gave him 3 clones, Naruto wins mid diff. Though w/o them he doesn't stand a chance.
 
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