Re: How on earth is Tobirama better than Minato?

[Zetsueno]

Re: How on earth is Tobirama better than Minato?

The only thing Tobirama has going for him is his fur coat, his tone and his looks (I mean seriously, he's so fine).

Minato has a better hairstyle though.

Yea, fur coat. I agree, he looks awesomely badass with the fur coat. Too bad Kishi didn't make Minato improve on his fur-coat.

 

[Zetsueno]

Re: How on earth is Tobirama better than Minato?

I am pretty sure he is talking about Tobirama.

Oh, I didn't notice. Sorry.

 

[syed47]

Re: How on earth is Tobirama better than Minato?

tobirama uses suiton to create water and minato uses FTG to supply such water to SA . .u see they both are equal :|

Nope.... not agreed..... well, you see, Tobirama creates water by suiton and minato, no,not just him but everyone, takes a bath with it..... you see,that's howMINATO>TOBIRAMA

 

[Miyata]

Re: How on earth is Tobirama better than Minato?

Anyone who gets cut in half by an unconsious obito is not better than minato!!! Minato is better than tobirama and horizun lol

 

[Avinash012]

Re: How on earth is Tobirama better than Minato?

Coca cola>Pepsi
Tobirama >Minato
thats how it works imo.

Intel i5 processor >>>>>pentium processor
Minato>>>>Tobirama

That's how it works.............

 

[Meee]

Re: How on earth is Tobirama better than Minato?

Because Tobirama is BOSS

 

[Tobby17]

Re: How on earth is Tobirama better than Minato?

This is a re-post. I'm reposting because I simply feel that its needed. Please don't make a fuss over it if anyone cares.

Minato>Tobirama in reflexes, speed and FTG. That much is true. Tobirama showed that he can use FTG, which wasn't that much of a surprise and people are suddenly going around saying he's got better reflexes, FTG, speed and what not. Really, this is getting annoying. Especially the reflexes thing. Tobirama had to get cut in half so he could mark Juubito. Minato escaped his attack with losing only one arm, and from a Juubito with control of his attacks.

Then people are saying he could use FTG he kunai as well, then why the f*#k didn't he use it before he got killed by 20 nin, when Minato was known for taking out platoons in the blink of an eye using his FTG. Either he was a dumbass to not figure out such an obvious usage of his tech, which he is not as we all know, or he simply couldn't. Also, Minato was said to have took on A, one of the fastest shinobi, and B, the 8-tails jin, and not only come out alive, but out-match them, multiple times. A's reflexes were also mentioned to be ALMOST on par with the fourths with his lightning armor, almost being the key-word. How on earth could Tobirama who freaking got fodderised by 20 nin be anywhere on par with this guy's reflexes?

Tobirama refers to FTG as shunshin since he said so not only when they arrived the the battlefield, but also when Minato slashed Obito. That also implies that he admitted his FTG to be inferior to Minato's. So much for better speed and better reflexes.

Edo Tensei in my opinion will do hardly anything against Minato who's one of the best sealers in the manga, being able to cancel out Obito Kyuubi summoning. This is assuming Tobirama, the honorable hokage, will kill a couple of shinobi or civilians for dead bodies and somehow go and find DNAs for some OP shinobi, because if they aren't Hashi or Madara level OP, then they've got no chance against Minato.

Tobirama also does not have S/T barrier. Atleast, feats till now suggest that, and most probably, he didn't.

So far, the only thing going for Tobirama against Minato are his unknown suiton hype, which I honestly don't remember.
The konoha anbu were simply amazed by his level of suiton, I don't recall seeing a line that states him to be the best ever. Even if he does have his suiton mastery, it'll do next to no damage.
Minato still > Tobirama, unless he shows us something more.

For starters, Minato's FTG is more ''efficient'' not ''better'', the Hokages did not teleport to the battlefield that would make no sense because they both need seals for FTG

1) Minato had no seal at the battlefield
2) Tobirama had no seal at the battlefield
3) First and third Hokage cannot use FTG

So yeah, Tobirama was as a matter of fact complimenting Minato's speed not FTG, btw Tobirama was able to place explosives AND a seal on Obito even though that attack lasted less than a second if that doesn't show you anything about Tobirama's reflexes that you keep trying to downgrade, then you really need to read the manga properly and UNDERSTAND it...

You do realize that to seal Edo Tensei Minato will have to get them pinned to a particular point?, and these Edo Tenseis have EXPLOSIVES.. Anyway I don't think Tobirama will use it against Minato seeing as he forbade the technique but if you have no intel on how Tobirama uses Edo Tensei, which I'm sure Minato doesn't, then you could be caught off guard

AND YES, Tobirama does have high level Suiton techniques, whether you want to believe it or not, when he fought the third Hokage, both he and his bro were brought back without full powers, and he was able to do those.. So if you think he can't use Suiton techniques with full power, then you need a re-think

 

[Ariow]

Re: How on earth is Tobirama better than Minato?

Tobirama used the shunshin/FTG to grab that TBB correct? If so where was the mark he used to teleport to them? Unless he is just really fast on his feat, seriously where the fudge did he come from? I guess you could argue Minato was just injured and his reflexes were effected combined with the fact that he had no idea the attack was coming. That being said I agree Minato is still superior. I wasn't expecting much from the 2nd Hokage but I must admit he has been hell a useful.

 

[Avinash012]

Re: How on earth is Tobirama better than Minato?

Tobirama is much more bossy than Minato.

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Tobirama is much bossy than Hashirama but actually Hashirama stomps Tobirama
Madara is bossy than HAshirama but HAshirama stomps him.......
Sasuke is much bossy than Naruto but Naruto stomps Sasuke
Tobirama is Much bossy than Minato but MInato stomps........!

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[Ariow]

Re: How on earth is Tobirama better than Minato?

Coca cola>Pepsi
Tobirama >Minato
thats how it works imo.

I love PEPSI!

 

[syed47]

Re: How on earth is Tobirama better than Minato?

Intel i5 processor >>>>>pentium processor
Minato>>>>Tobirama

That's how it works.............

nice answer and if tobirama fans want more examples than;

Ferrari>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Tricycle
Minato>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Tobirama senju....

that's what you get if you can't prove anything and just post C.C>Pepsi & Tobirama>Minato...

 

[sulanis]

Re: How on earth is Tobirama better than Minato?

The answer to your question is...he isn't better. Not with current feats.

Minato is better than Tobirama in Flying Thunder God, Shunshin, and possibly reflexes.

Tobirama's fighting style although similar, differs in a lot of ways. He is more experienced with sharingan figters and he also has a lot of the same advantages that Minato has. Is he stronger probably not. But they are both extremely skilled in there own right.

 

[Avinash012]

Re: How on earth is Tobirama better than Minato?

Tobirama used the shunshin/FTG to grab that TBB correct? If so where was the mark he used to teleport to them? Unless he is just really fast on his feat, seriously where the fudge did he come from? I guess you could argue Minato was just injured and his reflexes were effected combined with the fact that he had no idea the attack was coming. That being said I agree Minato is still superior. I wasn't expecting much from the 2nd Hokage but I must admit he has been hell a useful.

Yes ur right Tobirama is basically faster but MInato is still faster than Tobirama as admited by Tobirama .....

 

[Miyata]

Re: How on earth is Tobirama better than Minato?

For starters, Minato's FTG is more ''efficient'' not ''better'', the Hokages did not teleport to the battlefield that would make no sense because they both need seals for FTG

1) Minato had no seal at the battlefield
2) Tobirama had no seal at the battlefield
3) First and third Hokage cannot use FTG

So yeah, Tobirama was as a matter of fact complimenting Minato's speed not FTG, btw Tobirama was able to place explosives AND a seal on Obito even though that attack lasted less than a second if that doesn't show you anything about Tobirama's reflexes that you keep trying to downgrade, then you really need to read the manga properly and UNDERSTAND it...

You do realize that to seal Edo Tensei Minato will have to get them pinned to a particular point?, and these Edo Tenseis have EXPLOSIVES.. Anyway I don't think Tobirama will use it against Minato seeing as he forbade the technique but if you have no intel on how Tobirama uses Edo Tensei, which I'm sure Minato doesn't, then you could be caught off guard

AND YES, Tobirama does have high level Suiton techniques, whether you want to believe it or not, when he fought the third Hokage, both he and his bro were brought back without full powers, and he was able to do those.. So if you think he can't use Suiton techniques with full power, then you need a re-think

Nobody said he wasn't a worthy opponant for minato!!! Its just a fact that he couldn't beat him.... minato would be one step ahead of him!

 

[khaoz]

Re: How on earth is Tobirama better than Minato?

minato is the shiiiizzznniizzzeeellll

 

[Avinash012]

Re: How on earth is Tobirama better than Minato?

Tobirama's fighting style although similar, differs in a lot of ways. He is more experienced with sharingan figters and he also has a lot of the same advantages that Minato has. Is he stronger probably not. But they are both extremely skilled in there own right.

Yes he had alot of experienced but being seniour dosent mean that he would be stronger or better and MInato never faced some one along with kyubi but he still knw's how to break the contact b/w them means that some times experience is useless (Just like Oro and Itachi's case) especially in case of ppl like MInato

 

[Minator93]

Re: How on earth is Tobirama better than Minato?

Minato has the Overcoat

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[Uchiha Brothers]

Re: How on earth is Tobirama better than Minato?

honestly i hate both of them.sorry!!!

 

[Avinash012]

Re: How on earth is Tobirama better than Minato?

nice answer and if tobirama fans want more examples than;

Ferrari>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Tricycle
Minato>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Tobirama senju....

that's what you get if you can't prove anything and just post C.C>Pepsi & Tobirama>Minato...

Ha ha ha foolish fanboys they dnt even knw how to use logic....................!

 

[Draphsin]

Re: How on earth is Tobirama better than Minato?

This is a re-post. I'm reposting because I simply feel that its needed. Please don't make a fuss over it if anyone cares.

Minato>Tobirama in reflexes, speed and FTG. That much is true. Tobirama showed that he can use FTG, which wasn't that much of a surprise and people are suddenly going around saying he's got better reflexes, FTG, speed and what not. Really, this is getting annoying. Especially the reflexes thing. Tobirama had to get cut in half so he could mark Juubito. Minato escaped his attack with losing only one arm, and from a Juubito with control of his attacks.

Minato has better shunshin, but now that its confirmed that tobirama can move instantly then that means he can move on par with minato. & as for the reflexes & speed thing, KCM minato lost an arm, base minato would've been fodderized way before that seeing as KCM also improves sensing ability. Tobirama has better sensing than minato & minato even praised tobriama for his quick thinking after he got hit by obito. Also that was obito's first speedblitz, you know what that means? that means that they had no measure of his speed before that instant yet tobirama was still quick enough to think of a strategy. KCM minato still lost an arm knowing full well of obito's speed.

Then people are saying he could use FTG he kunai as well, then why the f*#k didn't he use it before he got killed by 20 nin, when Minato was known for taking out platoons in the blink of an eye using his FTG. Either he was a dumbass to not figure out such an obvious usage of his tech, which he is not as we all know, or he simply couldn't. Also, Minato was said to have took on A, one of the fastest shinobi, and B, the 8-tails jin, and not only come out alive, but out-match them, multiple times. A's reflexes were also mentioned to be ALMOST on par with the fourths with his lightning armor, almost being the key-word. How on earth could Tobirama who freaking got fodderised by 20 nin be anywhere on par with this guy's reflexes?

Wow so much bias in 1 paragraph..First of all tobirama never had FTG kunai but its proven that he can place a mark on things, either his jutsu has a range or he didnt have a mark placed earlier. Also, minato wasnt hunted down by 20 master bounty hunters. No ninja in the entire series has ever been given the title of "master bounty hunter". You know what that means? That means that they werent fodder, they could've been all kage level shinobi for all we know, they also came from kumogakure which means that they could have speed on par with A as well. There are too many variables in this so using it as an argument is invalid.

Tobirama refers to FTG as shunshin since he said so not only when they arrived the the battlefield, but also when Minato slashed Obito. That also implies that he admitted his FTG to be inferior to Minato's. So much for better speed and better reflexes.

Better doesnt mean faster, maybe minato's FTG has a longer range than tobirama's, maybe minato uses kunai while tobirama doesnt. Remember what minato said about obito's kamui? It was better than his own jutsu, does that mean that kamui is faster too? Of course not, so this argument is also invalid.

Edo Tensei in my opinion will do hardly anything against Minato who's one of the best sealers in the manga, being able to cancel out Obito Kyuubi summoning. This is assuming Tobirama, the honorable hokage, will kill a couple of shinobi or civilians for dead bodies and somehow go and find DNAs for some OP shinobi, because if they aren't Hashi or Madara level OP, then they've got no chance against Minato.

Senju level shinobi>uchiha level shinobi. If tobirama has some senjus or even some uchiha's then that would be enough. All tobirama needs to do is get them close then he uses his bombs, or even better he can use the bombs right after summoning, & blow up the entire battlefield which would destroy minato's kunai. Minato cant seal the edo because if he gets close then tobirama detonates it.

Tobirama also does not have S/T barrier. Atleast, feats till now suggest that, and most probably, he didn't.

Even if he doesnt have it, it wont make much of a difference. Minato's rasengan is hardly worth using an s/t barrier for.

So far, the only thing going for Tobirama against Minato are his unknown suiton hype, which I honestly don't remember.
The konoha anbu were simply amazed by his level of suiton, I don't recall seeing a line that states him to be the best ever. Even if he does have his suiton mastery, it'll do next to no damage.
Minato still > Tobirama, unless he shows us something more.

Tobirama's suiton was on a large scale, he has mastery because he can summon water with the use of just 1 seal. Also if you dont recall minato's kunai would be scattered around the battlefield. What will the suiton do? It will not only give tobi the terrain advantage but it will wash all of minato's kunai away.

Tobirama >= Minato, FTG gave him an incredible advantage.