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When you for a shadow clone it divides your stamina equally between the 4
Divide his chakra in between 3.

Each time a shadow clone is destroyed you lose that stamina.
I feel like you never read the Manga before. When a clone is destroyed, and it's not absorbed, then the chakra returns back to the user.

Just like how Naruto gathers senjutsu, and he gets sage chakra back to form Sage Mode.

God what a special person you are :lol
 

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Divide his chakra in between 3.


I feel like you never read the Manga before. When a clone is destroyed, and it's not absorbed, then the chakra returns back to the user.

Just like how Naruto gathers senjutsu, and he gets sage chakra back to form Sage Mode.

God what a special person you are :lol
Are there 3 of them or 4? If there are 3(including user) it's split between 3 so 1/3 each if 4(including user) it's 1/4 each.

Your mistaking releasing a clone as is done with gathering etc to gain accumulated experience the condition for it is releasing to transfer experiences.

Destroying a clone which takes the chakra with it that was the reason it's classed as a Kinjutsu. If it was as you say everybody would be using kage bunshin.

My advice leave your hubris at the door.
 
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Are there 3 of them or 4? If there are 3(including user) it's split between 3 so 1/3 each if 4(including user) it's 1/4 each.
There's 3. One Boruto, three clones.

Your mistaking releasing a clone as is done with gathering etc to gain accumulated experience the condition for it is releasing to transfer experiences
No. The Manga has shown that Naruto retains information, experience, and gains what-ever is left after the clone usage. Which includes chakra, as long as the clones themselves aren't using the pools of chakra they have in their bodies.


Destroying a clone which takes the chakra with it that was the reason it's classed as a Kinjutsu. If it was as you say everybody would be using kage bunshin.
A few things wrong:

1. Destroying a clone does not take the chakra away, only if the shadow clones are absorbed. Hence in point, senjutsu example.
2. Not everybody can spam kage bunshins because it still requires chakra to use in quantities.

For example

* Waste chakra to use
* Clone spits the chakra after you use chakra to make the technique
* Once the clone disperses, the chakra and everything else returns back to the user.

Your forgetting that the shadow clone user still needs to use chakra to activate the technique. But you also didn't do the math, once you split your chakra evenly into half to make one clone, and that clone disappears. That would you mean you would have half of your reserves, right? So you think that all shadow clone users, after the clone disperses, lose half of their pools once the clone is gone?

Jesus...

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There's 3. One Boruto, three clones.


No. The Manga has shown that Naruto retains information, experience, and gains what-ever is left after the clone usage. Which includes chakra, as long as the clones themselves aren't using the pools of chakra they have in their bodies.



A few things wrong:

1. Destroying a clone does not take the chakra away, only if the shadow clones are absorbed. Hence in point, senjutsu example.
2. Not everybody can spam kage bunshins because it still requires chakra to use in quantities.

For example

* Waste chakra to use
* Clone spits the chakra after you use chakra to make the technique
* Once the clone disperses, the chakra and everything else returns back to the user.

Your forgetting that the shadow clone user still needs to use chakra to activate the technique. But you also didn't do the math, once you split your chakra evenly into half to make one clone, and that clone disappears. That would you mean you would have half of your reserves, right? So you think that all shadow clone users, after the clone disperses, lose half of their pools once the clone is gone?

Jesus...

My advice leave your hubris at the door.
Boruto is 1 + 3 clones which is a division of 4 for chakra.

I repeat the clones experience is passed onto the user confirmed whether the clone is destroyed or released. The difference is a released clone is the user u doing the jutsu and regaining their chakra.

The destroyed clone doesn't return anything past Intel. The sagemode clones are released and that why they're able to return what they do destroyed clones aren't and can't do the same.

It's never been stated you need a large chakra pool to use kage Bunshin your mistaking the 2.

And yes if the user forms a shadow clone it's destroyed the chakra is gone hence kinjutsu. You don't forbid a jutsu that doesn't have consequences like I said everybody would be running around with kage bunshin not necessarily spamming like Naruto does but anybody with a 3 in stamina(part 1Naruto) would be doing it.

My advice is leave your hubris at the door.
 

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Boruto is 1 + 3 clones which is a division of 4 for chakra.
Sure


The destroyed clone doesn't return anything past Intel. The sagemode clones are released and that why they're able to return what they do destroyed clones aren't and can't do the same.
And your wrong. The fact that senjutsu returns to the user, means that chakra also returns to the user.

Unless you can specifiy any statement in the Manga that clarifies that chakra cannot return the user, but only senjutsu cannot. Fun fact:

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It's never been stated you need a large chakra pool to use kage Bunshin your mistaking the 2.
Learn how to read.

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Your forgetting that the shadow clone user still needs to use chakra to activate the technique. But you also didn't do the math, once you split your chakra evenly into half to make one clone, and that clone disappears. That would you mean you would have half of your reserves, right? So you think that all shadow clone users, after the clone disperses, lose half of their pools once the clone is gone?
No one said anything about having a large chakra pool.


And yes if the user forms a shadow clone it's destroyed the chakra is gone hence kinjutsu
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Wrong.
 

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Sure



And your wrong. The fact that senjutsu returns to the user, means that chakra also returns to the user.

Unless you can specifiy any statement in the Manga that clarifies that chakra cannot return the user, but only senjutsu cannot. Fun fact:

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:elmo:


Learn how to read.



No one said anything about having a large chakra pool.



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Wrong.
My advice take a comprehension lesson either that or your purposefully misreading what I'm saying.

The last scan says the user undoes the shadow clone jutsu. That is what I've been saying if the user undoes the jutsu he gains everything back including his chakra like with senjutsu.

If the clone is destroyed the user doesn't gain back the chakra hence it's a forbidden jutsu. You don't make a jutsu forbidden if it doesn't have side effects like it does in this case. Otheriwse everybody would be using it or spamming it.

Please read carefully go over it once again.
 

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My advice take a comprehension lesson either that or your purposefully misreading what I'm saying.
Don't really need to hear this from someone make makes up facts. Thanks, though.

The last scan says the user undoes the shadow clone jutsu. That is what I've been saying if the user undoes the jutsu he gains everything back including his chakra like with senjutsu.
Which proves my argument that everything returns back to the original. You tried to argue that chakra doesn't, but the Manga begs to differ.


If the clone is destroyed the user doesn't gain back the chakra hence it's a forbidden jutsu. You don't make a jutsu forbidden if it doesn't have side effects like it does in this case. Otheriwse everybody would be using it or spamming it
Multi Shadow Clone jutsu is the forbidden jutsu naruto learned from the scroll, not the shadow clone jutsu separately. Also this isn't an argument.
 

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Which proves my argument that everything returns back to the original. You tried to argue that chakra doesn't, but the Manga begs to differ.

Multi Shadow Clone jutsu is the forbidden jutsu naruto learned from the scroll, not the shadow clone jutsu separately. Also this isn't an argument.
Nope I never said chakra doesn't return to the user since you've not actually been reading what I've been saying Ill speel it out look at the bold parta.

I said along the lines if a clone is destroyed the chakra is gone. If a clone is undone by the user everything including remaining chakra returns to the user including senjutsu.

I thought I'd spell it out for you since you havent been paying attention.

If not for the consequence of chakra disappearing every time a clone is destroyed everybody would be using it. Including the multi shadow clone jutsu since ultimately by your argument is chakra return to the user even if a clone is destroyed there's no need for it to really be classed as a kinjutsu
 

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Nope I never said chakra doesn't return to the user since you've not actually been reading what I've been saying Ill speel it out look at the bold parta.
Liar, liar pants on fire ~


Destroying a clone which takes the chakra with it

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I said along the lines if a clone is destroyed the chakra is gone. If a clone is undone by the user everything including remaining chakra returns to the user including senjutsu.
Nowhere does it state that the chakra disappears unless the clone is absorbed somehow. That's how it works.

That's why Naruto can receive sage chakra from his clones after they disperse, because everything returns back to the original. Just like how if Naruto gave a clone some Kyuubi chakra, that same chakra would return to Naruto, unless someone with Preta Path absorbed that chakra.

:elmo:


not for the consequence of chakra disappearing every time a clone is destroyed everybody would be using it.
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The reason why Kakashi for example, can't spam shadow clones like Naruto, is because he can't maintain it.


Including the multi shadow clone jutsu since ultimately by your argument is chakra return to the user even if a clone is destroyed there's no need for it to really be classed as a kinjutsu
A few things wrong here:

1. You were arguing about shadow clones, and classified it a forbidden technique in the same, when the multi shadow clone jutsu is the real 'really forbidden' shadow clone version of the technique.

2. Anyone who can read and with a brain can tell that chakra returns to the original after the clone is destroyed, as long as the chakra isn't absorbed prior.

Hence why this works:

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Go read the Manga.
 

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Liar, liar pants on fire ~




Nowhere does it state that the chakra disappears unless the clone is absorbed somehow. That's how it works.

That's why Naruto can receive sage chakra from his clones after they disperse, because everything returns back to the original. Just like how if Naruto gave a clone some Kyuubi chakra, that same chakra would return to Naruto, unless someone with Preta Path absorbed that chakra.

:elmo:



No.

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The reason why Kakashi for example, can't spam shadow clones like Naruto, is because he can't maintain it.



A few things wrong here:

1. You were arguing about shadow clones, and classified it a forbidden technique in the same, when the multi shadow clone jutsu is the real 'really forbidden' shadow clone version of the technique.

2. Anyone who can read and with a brain can tell that chakra returns to the original after the clone is destroyed, as long as the chakra isn't absorbed prior.

Hence why this works:

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Go read the Manga.
Again with the fanfic you've not addressed a single thing I've said my posts are here to see your just making up your own arguments and refuting them. Or presenting evidences which don't address anything I've said. Either your trolling or have need of comprehension lessons. Your even forced to cut parts of scans.

Ps. Doesnt know the difference between undoing and destroying.
 
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Again with the fanfic you've not addressed a single thing I've said my posts are here to see your just making up your own arguments and refuting them. Or presenting evidences which don't address anything I've said. Either your trolling or have need of comprehension lessons. Your even forced to cut parts of scans.

Ps. Doesnt know the difference between undoing and destroying.
Concession accepted.

When you can actually counter the argument @ hand, quote me back.

Your only Objection is that you're crying over your spill milk. You called out my post "BS" without even bothering countering all my post.

So yeah go ahead and log off, this just further add salt on your wound. Stay Crusty ;)
Yo Hyuga, look at this guy doing the same thing.

:lol
 

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Concession accepted.

When you can actually counter the argument @ hand, quote me back.


Yo Hyuga, look at this guy doing the same thing.

:lol
Again with the deflection there's nothing to counter since you haven't once addressed anything I've said. You've constructed your own scenario and have been trying to refute it.

And now your trying to draw somebody else in to draw the heat off of your self.

It's a good thing the posts are there and any editing gets time stamped.

Your concession is gladly accepted. :bye:

Ps. Doesnt know the difference between undone and destroyed.
 

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Again with the deflection there's nothing to counter since you haven't once addressed anything I've said. You've constructed your own scenario and have been trying to refute it.
You never countered this:

Liar, liar pants on fire ~




Nowhere does it state that the chakra disappears unless the clone is absorbed somehow. That's how it works.

That's why Naruto can receive sage chakra from his clones after they disperse, because everything returns back to the original. Just like how if Naruto gave a clone some Kyuubi chakra, that same chakra would return to Naruto, unless someone with Preta Path absorbed that chakra.

:elmo:



No.

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The reason why Kakashi for example, can't spam shadow clones like Naruto, is because he can't maintain it.



A few things wrong here:

1. You were arguing about shadow clones, and classified it a forbidden technique in the same, when the multi shadow clone jutsu is the real 'really forbidden' shadow clone version of the technique.

2. Anyone who can read and with a brain can tell that chakra returns to the original after the clone is destroyed, as long as the chakra isn't absorbed prior.

Hence why this works:

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Go read the Manga.

And now your trying to draw somebody else in to draw the heat off of your self.
Just posting to the narrative that you run away from arguments consistently when your wrong. Prove, facts, and checkmate ~


Ps. Doesnt know the difference between undone and destroyed.
No counter? Concession accepted.

:bye:
 
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