Rate Sharingan users without Sharingan

[Artaya]

Just wanted to say something about Kakashi's taijutsu skills; we've seen him use lotus. In other words, he can open at least a few of the gates (if not as many as gai himself...) This is one of the ultimate forms of Taijutsu as the series has shown. There's nothing to argue about here.

 

[RasenUchihaChaos]

Just wanted to say something about Kakashi's taijutsu skills; we've seen him use lotus. In other words, he can open at least a few of the gates (if not as many as gai himself...) This is one of the ultimate forms of Taijutsu as the series has shown. There's nothing to argue about here.

if u mean in the naruto movie where he used it on Nadare that wasnt even a gate its not listed on his profile either
gates is not something u copy u have to learn it the physical stress would kill kakashi

 

[khaoz]

Madara, Obito, Sasuke, Kakashi, Itachi. Without Sharingan, who is kage level? Jounin level? Chunin level? Genin level?

all would be jounin

 

[Artaya]

if u mean in the naruto movie where he used it on Nadare that wasnt even a gate its not listed on his profile either
gates is not something u copy u have to learn it the physical stress would kill kakashi

Beginning of Shippuden, he used primary lotus on two of Naruto's clones. You have to open gates to do any kind of lotus, even if it's just the first gate. It's a fact that Kakashi's best friend and chief rival is Might Gai, and if he hadn't had the Sharingan to compensate Kakashi probably would have developed insanely elite taijutsu and other skills. It was also stated during the Chuunin exam that you need speed and taijutsu skills like Rock Lee's to even try using Chidori.

 

[narutokage99]

Itachi : kage
Sasuke : chuunin
Madara : kage
Kakashi : kage
Obito : jounin
Shisui : jounin

 

[Artaya]

Also, I don't know about Kakashi being Kage level exactly. You could argue he isn't kage level even now, so why would taking sharingan away make him stronger? His only kage level techniques are Kamui, and possibly gates if he'd continued along the Taijutsu path with Might Gai.

He MAY be kage level right now. I think Might Gai is also. But seriously; taking sharingan wouldn't do any of these guys any favors.

 

[Minator93]

lmfao kakashi is sannin level? no more like jounin at best.

izuna was on par with madara, he is kage level

itachi high jounin if not kage.

obito kage

kakashi isnt better than any of them w/o or with sharagin.

fanboys need to get a clue

LOL

Kakashi was bound to surpass his father The White Fang. And Sakumo was greater than the Sannins U_U
My sig will answer for Izuna

Obito aint a Kage Level U_U

 

[Draegod]

Based off feats Sasuke would clearly be the best out of all them!

Sasuke (Low kage-high jonin)
Madara/izuna (Low kage-High Jonin)
Kakashi (High Jonin)
Itachi (Regular Jonin- High Chnin) With out genjutsu and susanoo he is a fodder compared to the others
Obito (Chunin)

 

[Carlhens]

All of them bc each everyone has other trump card

 

[Bogard]

Based off feats Sasuke would clearly be the best out of all them!

Sasuke (Low kage-high jonin)
Madara/izuna (Low kage-High Jonin)
Kakashi (High Jonin)
Itachi (Regular Jonin- High Chnin) With out genjutsu and susanoo he is a fodder compared to the others
Obito (Chunin)

Why? We have only rarely if never saw him fighting without Sharingan in part2 and his lightning jutsus(chidori especially) needs Sharingan to be effectiv.

 

[Memoria]

I rate Obito directly after Madara and I'll tell you why:

Obito without Kamui still has his great reflexes, which is the main reason why his Kamui is really effective anyway,
adding that to his impressive speed, which allowed him to go toe-to-toe with KM Naruto

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, he's near untouchable.

He can dodge attacks without using Kamui like he did

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, also his speed

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looks amazing!

I think he just feels like using Kamui is fun, plus he looks boss when he passes through attacks... Anyway, adding all that to his great Katon jutsu's, like

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he would be high Jonin level.

Let's not forget that he has great body strength due to Senju DNA, as well as Mokuton, so yeah, he would be a close second to Madara without Sharingan.

 

[Artaya]

Everyone is so willing to toss around the title of Kage. Could ANY of these guys stand against Jiraiya, or the Raikage, or Gaara without sharingan? Sasuke almost died WITH susanoo against the raikage; Kakashi couldn't fight two of the lesser Pain's even with Kamui, while Jiraiya probably would have defeated them all if he'd known how the Rinnegan worked. How are they going to fight Gaara? The only kage that might be beaten is Tsunade, because the bulk of her skills are in her legendary medical jutsu.

However, none of these guys are kage level without the Sharingan. That's how I feel; unless they trained in a completely different direction and somehow ended up being insanely good at it.

 

[Rozzy]

Madara
Sasuke
Itachi
Kakashi
Obito

 

[Draegod]

Why? We have only rarely if never saw him fighting without Sharingan in part2 and his lightning jutsus(chidori especially) needs Sharingan to be effectiv.

His fire jutsus shuriken techs, chidori variants are pretty broken. Remember when he fought yamato them? Itachi fights with genjutsu and thats whats he's best at. But if you has to judge his abilitys to sasuke ill choose sasuke! Kakashi was already Jonin without the sharingan.

 

[Noki]

1. Kakashi - Jounin (he was jounin before having sharingan)
2. Itachi - jounin (his knowladge and his genjutsu which doesnt involve sharingan are alredy enough for jounin)
3. Madara - jounin (a great fire style user and taijutsu user)
4. sasuke - chunin (all of his ability rely on sharingan too much... except fire style jutsus and his taijutsu - chidori is worthless without sharingan)
5. Obito-genin (basicaly without ms he is just a fodder im sorry to say this but its the truth)..

 

[Bogard]

His fire jutsus shuriken techs, chidori variants are pretty broken. Remember when he fought yamato them? Itachi fights with genjutsu and thats whats he's best at. But if you has to judge his abilitys to sasuke ill choose sasuke! Kakashi was already Jonin without the sharingan.

Against Yamato he used Sharingan which helps greatly especially with the precognition ability. Like i've said his chidori needs Sharingan, but i must admit that i don't really know if it's the case for his variants as well. About his fire jutsu, Itachi can do the same. Kakashi still has 3elements, when Sasuke only has 2, so in terms of variety in ninjutsu i think he is above as well. Itachi also has 2elements, so he is on par with Sasuke, but i must admit that Sasuke might be better but on the other side, Itachi still has his quick KB feints(same goes for Kakashi) which is a great part of his fighting style

 

[Artaya]

I don't know if Chidori is exactly worthless without sharingan. It would just be a bit less accurate. But Naruto hits with Rasengan often enough without sharingan.

 

[Shisui Namikaze]

Kakashi - obviously jonin. He was that rank before he got the sharingan
Itachi - chunin. All the techs he use come from his eyes. He is worthless without them
Madara - same as itachi
Sasuke - chunin
Obito - chunin.

 

[Noobastank]

Madara-Kage
Itachi-Jonin
Kakashi-Jonin
Obito-jonin
sasuke-high chuunin/low jonin

 

[ChocolateBear]

Sasuke a chuunin? are you guy high