Rate Sharingan users without Sharingan

[Bogard]

Why are their ranks below jonin ? Everyone there besides obito reached jonin rank at young age so you listing genin and chuunin is ridiculous and the ones who do not have an official rank are clearly above it >fail thread

It was just a question. I never stated their positions. Bakayaro Konoyaro U_U

 

[karol the don]

i guess madara would still be on kage lvl like on the current kages,only his fan and his master katon styles are that good rest on jonin lvl

 

[The Scion of Hentai]

Well, this is my opinion.
*Out of everyone here, Kakashi seems to be the one that fights the most w/o using a Sharingan so he'll probably still be a High Jonin.

*Itachi w/o a Sharingan will not be blind because....well there's no MS to make him blind. However, he will still have poor health and stamina which will be his main weakness. Fire style, genius intellect and general prodigy-ness would probably leave him at Low-Mid Jonin, overall, his poor stamina is his downfall.

*Madara......is Madara....we've seen how powerful his Fire Style jutsu have been and his skills in general will be pretty darn high considering that he's a prodigy with especially powerful chakra. He's still Low-Mid Kage material in my opinion due to all that.

*Sasuke's a tricky one to judge but he may be Low-Mid Jonin material considering what we've seen him do so far without a Sharingan.

*Obito sadly may be downgraded to High Chuunin-Low Jonin level due to the fact that we haven't seen enough of his non-Sharingan skills to base a proper analysis of his abilities. What we've seen so far are a few Fire Style and Earth Style jutsu's that he's pulled off pretty well, still, he's a bit too reliant on Kamui for me to award him a higher position.

 

[Akatsuki Pain]

Madara, Izuna===> Kage
Itachi===> High Jonin to Kage
Kakashi===> High Jonin
Shisui===> high Jonin
Sasuke===> High Chonin to High Jonin

I agree

 

[phats1231]

thats like asking to comment on a guy's manhood without considering his junk xd

 

[Shikamaru1994]

Um kakashi was already jounin at like 12.... He could have become Kage level without sharingan.

 

[FlyingThunderGodHax]

All of them expect Obito are really fast, Itachi and Sasuke are skilled weapon users and Madara has his overpowered Fan, so I'm putting them in this order:

1) Itachi (Jonin)
2) Madara (Jonin)
3) Sasuke (Jonin)
4) Kakashi (Jonin)
5) Obito (Fodder Jonin)

lol Fodder Jounin, whos that like Kurenai's level??

 

[killerbeesama]

Madara Mid to high Kage still had other stuff besides sharingan good with the fan too
Itachi mid to high Jounin
Kakashi High chunin to mid jounin
Sasuke well he has shown some skill before sharingan so High chuunin to mid jounin
obito genin or chunin or dead since we saw his past and he was well not so good

kakashi was already jonin by the time obito died. (his father was considered sannin level) -> he would be kage level for sure even without his sharingan

 

[croxo]

I'm not sure about madara...we haven't seen much of his prime day without the dna from hashi's wood xD

yeah,I don't think he'd be too good without sharingan, cause he'd be dead. He only survived the fight against hashirama because of kyuubi(imo) and with no sharingan no kyuubi controll

 

[Timolrickx]

You must be all flubbing kidding me.

Madara - Could not have controlled the Kyuubi during the fight with Hashirama Senju and also would never have been able to activate the rinnegan. He probably would have died or the whole Uchiha clan would just be a bunch of averange Tai and Fire-Jutsu users.
Also the Uchiha clan probably wouldnt be destroyed then. In my opinion he must be strong if he was a former of the Leaf village, but honestly .. do you really think he would be able to plant in the Hashirama DNA, survive a fight with hashi - who pwned him even with the kyuubi next to him ?

Sasuke - Ok hes really good at his chidori techniques, his taijutsu is good,too. - but hey, you miss the point. Without the Sharingan Orochimaru would have never gave him the curse mark. Also he would never ever be able to use Susanoo, Amaterasu, Genjutsu or be able to predict attacks like he did to bee with his OP swordstyle. He would've been dead too if he just walked into the five kage meeting.

Itachi - Ok, without the sharingan he wouldnt be blind, but as said he would be a averange fire jutsu user with good Taijutsu. He would not be able to use tsukuyomi or Susanoo.. Which are itachis most homing attacks. Well, as we all know itachi is also good with Weaponary, but the Sharingan helps alot with that. To be honest - I think he wouldnt even make it into akatsuki, without his sharingan.

Obito - Well, obito the star wars kid who wants to go to the dark side to revive his girl. I never had anything against Obito, but if you all think back when Obito activated his sharingan to save the half-blinded kakashi... He wouldnt have seen the guy without it. Kakashi and Obito both would be dead, but that is thinking too far. As far as we know the only reason why obito is hard to hit is his kamui. Without that he would be a pretty easy target although he might be a little fast. Still, he never would have been able to use mokuton if he didnt have the sharingan. I mean cmon .. The only reason why madara saved him was the sharingan. In my point obito would just been some regular konoha shinobi like what ? Iruka level ? - maybe a bit better. could just not think of an mid Chuunin. Oh and what I forgot to mention. Without his Sharingan Obito would NEVER be able to control the kyuubi, which means that Kushina and Minato never wouldve died. Minato would wtf pwn the non-using Kamui obito.

Now to Kakashi, the last one. - As we all know kakashi is a jounin already, he thought himself Chidori and he got his Ninja dogs. Hes also able to use shadow clones. Thats pretty much Naruto-like without high chakra. Well, tbh Kakashi still would be good without his sharingan, no doubt, but .. if he didnt die against zabuza then he would just have died against pain or in the war. He is good and intelligent, but without the sharingan, he would not have a great chance to become so uber famous Shinobi.

Now to my result.

Madara - Since he is a former nin, and we haven't seen much. (High Jounin) , (low kage)
Sasuke - (Low, to mid Jounin)
Itachi - Cuz of his knowledge a lil + (Mid Jounin)
Obito - (High Chunin if not even Mid chunin?)
Kakashi - He was a Jounin before, but I think he wouldnt have increased his Strenght much, without the sharingan. (Low to Mid Jounin)

If you dont like my opinion I would like to have reasons with cofirmed information.

 

[Uchiha Riyo]

They would all be at the very least be jonin.

 

[Sasuke eats nards]

Obviously Kakashi would be the highest rank, since he was a Jonin at a young age before he had the sharingan. Not sure about the others, but they all had sharingan for most of their lives, and it seems their power is mainly coming from their eyes.

 

[Blast41]

Kakashi automatically get jonin since he was b4 he got sharigan
Obito took years to get chunin b4 sharingan, so he starts at chunin plus deadp
Madara won't be as awesome but still badass
Itachi was talented yes, but majority of that came from his sharingan prowess
Sasuke would be genin, chunin at best dead from Haku

 

[Morakis]

Madara no 1 cuz........ he is Madara !No 2 OBito cuz .... he is OBito ( i am ironic here) No 3 ITachi for his intellect ! No4 KAkashi for the same reason ! No 5 Sasuke. And u forgot Shisui since he was called Shisui of the shunsun (the teleporter) which has to count for something

 

[Great Toad Sage]

Poor obito

Obito is genin-chunnin fodder as he relies enitirely on his Sharingan

The rest are Jonnin level

 

[blackbird31468]

1)Madara(low kage): Due to high intelligence, massive fire style power and OP fan

2)Itachi(high jounin): Due to high intelligence, great fire & water style jutsus, shuriken/kunai master and incredible speed

3)Kakashi(high jounin): Due to high intelligence, great lightning, water & earth style jutsus and great speed

4)Sasuke(high jounin): Due to great lightning and fire style jutsus, very good intelligence, lighting sword and great speed

5)Obito(jounin): great fire style jutsus and becoming a chunin at 11yrs. old

 

[gordo1]

Madara is high kage (for current kages)
Itachi is high jounin
Kakashi is high jounin - he was good enough to be a jounin at 12 or 13, he's still elite
Sasuke is mid jounin
Shisui - not enough information
Obito - useless

 

[Barac Obama]

Kage level:
-Madara
-Itachi
Jounin level:
-Kakashi
-Obito
-Sasuke

But the only person who should be rated without sharingan is kakashi since it is not in his blood to have a sharingan.

Itachi without sharingan is kage level pfff. all his battle skills , his taijutsu, his ninjutsu are all enhanced and assisted heavily by sharingan. and Btw how can u forget itachi was sick and have low stamina. cant believe uchihaa fanboys are so much ignorant and arrogant. Even shikamaru can defeat sharingan less itachi. live with it

 

[AlexXx]

hmm shisui is still fast without his sharingan.
and think: he could use ka only once in 10 years. so he had most of his fights without ka and was still known as powerful

 

[YellowFang]

Kakashi was Jonin w/o sharingan so he would be low-kage or high jonin...
I didn't saw Madara w/o sharingan in any fight...I don't know about him, maybe Jonin at best...
Itachi, Special Jonin or high Chunin...
Sasuke, Obito are fodders w/o their KKG...

Remeber people this is w/o sharingan, many of their abilities are depended on sharingan even speed...