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itachi would not have a singly move besides crows clones and fireball jutsu. His main thing, his genjutsu would be gone. His izanami would be gone. Amaterasu would be dead. And worst of all, no susanoo at all. He wouldnt even have ka.

Sasuke without the sharingan wouldve died in his fight against naruto since his sharingan saved him from an ass whooping of a life time because he was able to read attacks. Sasuke without sharingan means no ama, tsukom and susanoo and no blaze release. it also means he cant distinguish between clones and it means he wouldnt have seen deidaras nano bombs because he said his sharingan could see.

Kakashi without sharingan means no kamui, no copy jutsu, so he would only have like chidori and shadow clones. Plus he wouldnt even be able to use chidori because he said the sharingan helps the tunnel vision. he would probably be low jounin.

Madara without sharingan means no rinnegan no susanoo and no sharingan abilities. But the fact that he has Hashis dna would probably help him remain kage level easily. In fact top kage level
 

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Madara = Kage
Itachi = Kage
Kakashi = Jounin
Sasuke = Jounin
Obito = Dont know between Jounin and Kage.
 

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itachi would not have a singly move besides crows clones and fireball jutsu. His main thing, his genjutsu would be gone. His izanami would be gone. Amaterasu would be dead. And worst of all, no susanoo at all. He wouldnt even have ka.

Sasuke without the sharingan wouldve died in his fight against naruto since his sharingan saved him from an ass whooping of a life time because he was able to read attacks. Sasuke without sharingan means no ama, tsukom and susanoo and no blaze release. it also means he cant distinguish between clones and it means he wouldnt have seen deidaras nano bombs because he said his sharingan could see.

Kakashi without sharingan means no kamui, no copy jutsu, so he would only have like chidori and shadow clones. Plus he wouldnt even be able to use chidori because he said the sharingan helps the tunnel vision. he would probably be low jounin.

Madara without sharingan means no rinnegan no susanoo and no sharingan abilities. But the fact that he has Hashis dna would probably help him remain kage level easily. In fact top kage level

If he had no sharigan why would he had faught hashi ???
He would've never feuded with hashi ? There for would've never aquired DNA
 

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Itachi would be high jounin.
Sasuke would be high jounin.
Madara would be mid jounin.
Kakashi would be mid jounin.
Obito would be very low jounin.
 

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Itachi would be high jounin.
Sasuke would be high jounin.
Madara would be mid jounin.
Kakashi would be mid jounin.
Obito would be very low jounin.

how is Madara below Itachi and Sasuke.
 

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Madara>Obito>Sasuke=Kakashi>Itachi

Madara has Rinnengan and more experience
Obito has Rinnengan
Sasuke is talented fast and can take Kakashi IMO, they should be equal if not Kakashi being slightly better
Itachi is sick
 

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Madara still has fire ninjutsu(greatest fire techniques) and various uchiha kinjutsu he knows. He has insane skill in kenjutsu and taiijutsu as well. He is probably still kage level without his sharingan.
 

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Madara- Without Sharingan, he still has his experience and Hashirama's cells.- Kage level, but not "I'm going to easily defeat all five Kage level". No Sharingan for him means no Rinnegan either. So no big-ass meteors.

Sasuke- Without Sharingan, he can still use Kirin. Kirin doesn't require him to move. He used it standing completely still against Kakashi.-VERY low Kage level.

Kakashi-Without Sharingan, he still has Chidori, even if it's unusable. Hell, I think it's actually useable without Sharingan as all the Sharingan is needed for is the fast movement. He's also very intelligent.- Very talented Jonin level. Above Itachi and Obito.

Obito-Without Sharingan, he still has Mokuton, albeit a shitty version. He's a little more intelligent than Itachi/Kakashi. Just think of how well he can manipulate people.-Very talented Jonin level.

Itachi- Another intelligent Uchiha who analyzes techniques and people. But take away his Sharingan, and I hate to say it, but he only really has fireball jutsu. Even Ephemeral (the finger genjutsu) requires the Sharingan to be activated. I am not going to assume he has better techniques than what he's already shown or he would have used them. Very talented Jonin level.

P.S. Giving Itachi the Sharingan puts him above Kakashi and Sasuke, and on par with Obito if they were all to be given Sharingan in this scenario. I am not saying he's weak, but he hasn't shown anything above a C-rank jutsu and some speed WITHOUT Sharingan.

And I don't know why you guys are including paths that would have been taken had these guys not had their dojutsu. It sounds to me that you guys are trying to protect your favorite character. Especially Itachi fans. Please tell me WHAT he'd have besides fire jutsu?
 
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Madara, Obito, Sasuke, Kakashi, Itachi. Without Sharingan, who is kage level? Jounin level? Chunin level? Genin level?

Madara: kage cuz he has other stuff besides sharingan
Obito: jounin
Sasuke: jounin he still has fire and lightning style and susanoo
Kakashi: kage cuz he has all 5 chakras
Itachi: kage he's a good weapons user and fast and susanoo
 

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Kakashi without sharingan means no other elements, he will only have lightning techniques and probably one more nature affinity, great taijutsu, good speed, and good intelligence
Obito will be like base naruto without sharingan
Sasuke will be like Kakashi but higher
Itachi will be like Minato without ftg
Madara is kage level
 

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Kakashi is nothing without the sharingan. He's proven it time and time again. He's copied 1000 jutsu's with the sharingan but the only reason he can use Raikiri and Chidori properly is because of the sharingan. He's chunin and that's being generous. All the Uchiha clan members are Kage and Jounin level.
 

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my list goes like this

1.Madara
2.Danzou
3.Kakashi
4.Sasuke
5.Obito
6.Itachi

No doubt for the ist position. It was madara all along. he got most unique chakra pool in uchihaa clan. he is very wise and knowladgable. with or without sharingan he is still capable to pawn most of ninjas
i put itachi at bottom beacuse he is sick and fragile . in the same way without his M.S he was like fodder against Sasuke

similarly Danzou is at no 2 bcoz of his wide range of wind jutsu , knowledge of seals and cursed marks and his awsome summons.

Kakashi before he got his sharingan was way talented and sharingan only polished the already fine ninja that kakashi was so without sharingan he is definately below danzou in 3rd position
 

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Assuming Kakashi would have no techniques without sharingan is retarded. He had a high level elemental jutsu like chidori before he had Sharingan, so he would have learned what he wanted. Not only that, he can use fire, lightning, water, basically any element he wants from what weve seen. He may not have Naruto's stamina (who does?) but hes never been put out of battle out of exhaustion except a few times with kamui. Now he can spam kamui. What stamina problem?
 

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everyone jounin level.....
1.Kakashi
2.Sasuke
3 4 5 6 otrs
 

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One single kick or not, Sasukes attack failed when Kakashis attack succeeded, so at that moment, Kakashi was superior to him in taijutsu. Databook also confirms that, it's why Kakashi has one point above Sasuke in this category. Stop posting to just be posting when you know you are proved wrong

If you want to prove that kakashi is superior than sasuke in taijustu you have to use a better example than kakashi grabbing sasuke arm when he is using chidori. We all know what chidori requires of the user. Obviously anybody even sakura could grab sasuke arm if he is attacking someone else with chidori because he gets tunnel vision from the technique. when kakashi grabbed sasuke arm he is looking at him point blank and he was in a better position than sasuke. Also when kakashi dodged sasuke kick its not like sasuke could dodge kakashi's kick because kakashi still was holding is arm which didn't allow him to have movement. Thus, the kick had a 100% probability of hitting. Still though, sasuke blocked kakashi's kick and received no damage even when kakashi had every advantage possible on sasuke. All this is done without sharingans from ether. If you want say say kakashi is better in taijustu than you would need a better example than this.

p.s. the databooks are right now not current so databook 3 is irrelevant because it is not current. We would have to wait for databook 4 in order to judge who is better at taijustu because I don't believe they would ever fight ever.
 

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madara- high kage level
shisui- mid to high kage level
itachi- mid to high kage level
kakashi- mid kage level
sasuke- high jonin level
obito- WASTED!
 

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Madara(Kage)Kakashi,Sasuke,Itachi(High Jounin)and Obito(chunin)
 

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no one will be kage level thats for sure

madara- high jounin
kakashi/sasuke- mid jounin
itachi/obito- low jounin

As even without the sharingen, the uchihas are blessed with extremely high chakra reserves. That alone makes a lot of difference.

=/= extremely high chakra reserves
 
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Well, Madara was narrowly defeated by Hashirama, so he must be at least low kage level without sharingan.

Itachi is too skilled at everything to be anything but mid to high level jonin.

Kakashi would be a solid mid-level to high-level jonin. I think the mangekyo is what would send him to low-level kage.

Sasuke is at least a jonin with what we've seen so far. Not sure how far up and down though.

Obito's sharingan abilities is what really sets him apart. Without sharingan he would be low level jonin at best.
 
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