[Discussion] Rape...?

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It's been proven that you can orgasm without a stiffy.

So she could still thumb in a softy and get away with it.

How would she get him to achieve it though?

Such a middle school response.

Quite the opposite actually, a middle schooler in puberty has no chance of controlling himself. Because they're learning themselves.

But I forgot you know all things, silly me.
 

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Silly arousal can't be controlled. Lol that still makes me laugh lol

Well I have never once seen a sexy woman's body and thought I'm gonna make my myself unaroused and them make myself aroused again. Wich means I can't control it and neither can anyone else. Or better yet here is a simple way to prove my point do you think about making yourself hard when you get hard? Well there to have it you can't control it.
 

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How would she get him to achieve it though?



Quite the opposite actually, a middle schooler in puberty has no chance of controlling himself. Because they're learning themselves.

But I forgot you know all things, silly me.



You really need this.

…the induction of arousal and orgasm does not indicate that the subjects consented to the stimulation. A perpetrator’s defense simply built upon the fact that evidence of genital arousal or orgasm proves consent has no intrinsic validity and should be disregarded…Human sexual arousal occurs as a mental state and a physical state; in normal sexual arousal both occur simultaneously. However, it is possible to be mentally sexually aroused without showing any genital manifestations of arousal…Contrarily, it is possible to exhibit these genital manifestations of arousal but not feel mentally aroused. Indeed, it is even possible to feel disgusted by the genital manifestations of arousal if it is thought to be a highly inappropriate response to the inducing sexual stimuli [such as] getting an erection to the naked body of one’s mother or sister or by a violent scenario.
 

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Well I have never once seen a sexy woman's body and thought I'm gonna make my myself unaroused and them make myself aroused again. Wich means I can't control it and neither can anyone else. Or better yet here is a simple way to prove my point do you think about making yourself hard when you get hard? Well there to have it you can't control it.

What? That literally has nothing to do with anything. If an ugly woman(which it would be) tried raping you I'm sure you'd be able to get your arosual in order and get away.



You really need this.


I don't believe that, I can literally make that website and put anything I want on it.
 
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I was sarcastically mocking.

It wasn't suppose to be humorous.



A guy ties you down and bums you.

A women forces herself on top of you and proceeds to have intercourse without consent.

Oh ok I mean what I was trying to get at was how dones a woman pin a man down and force his penis inside of her. But another man doing the hard part ok.
 

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-Sleeping
-Drugged
-Emotionally pressured
-Threatened
-Physically over powered

There are a whole plethora of ways men can be raped. Don't be so close minded.

Ok you guys got me. Thank you for the enlightenment. I shall never use that defense again. That was rather ignorant of me....
 

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What? That literally has nothing to do with anything. If an ugly woman(which it would be) tried raping you I'm sure you'd be about to get your arosual in order and get away.

My post has everything to do with proving sexual arousal can't be controlled (which is why I made the post).The only thing anyone can control (not including thinking) on their physical body's are their muscles. But okay sure.
 

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My post has everything to do with proving sexual arousal can't be controlled (which is why I made the post).The only thing anyone can control (not including thinking) on their physical body's are their muscles. But okay sure.

Google that. All we can control is our muscles is bullshit. Have you ever heard of an involuntary muscle?
 

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You're going against a report citing multiple accredited sources?

The man is clearly going through an intellectual deficit, I find it better to ignore such as those and talk amongst the adults. It does wonders for the enjoyment of NarutoBase.
 

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Among primitive peoples, though in the media it tends to be often portrayed as an issue supposedly only afflicting the Islamic world, you will see another double standard, I am talking of course about so called "honour killings".
In primitive societies in general (and yes, these things extend far beyond the Islamic world and are typically observed in hunter-gatherer peoples, whose way of life is far more reflective of the environment in which our ancestors evolved than is the 21st century western world), females who violate the sexual norms of their group are often put to death, and not only that but the norms constraining males are far more... lenient... to say the least - typically moreso in practice even if not by principle (e.g. Islam prescribes the death penalty for both male and female adulterers yet for some odd reason, the victims of that law seem to be disproportionately female).

And I am not just trying to attempt to deflect your issue by changing the subject to double standards that victimize women. The aforementioned phenomenon and your "double standard" in fact have the same ultimate, that is to say evolutionary, cause.

It has to do with a particular sociobiological property of the behavioural patterns of homo-sapiens, one where the sexual competition over mates is conducted primarily by the males over the females. It is female sexuality that is the valuable scarce resource in the world of homo-sapiens. This is why the vast majority of human societies throughout history have been polygynous, why female virginity has been and continues to be virtually sanctified in many parts of the world (but little is said about male virginity), why daughters are far more likely to end up being pestered about their relationships and many, many other peculiar "double standards" concerning attitudes and reactions to the behaviour of the sexes.

And yes, this is the ultimate reason for why male and female rape, even if the later is legitimately done (i.e. the female somehow disables the male as sometimes happens), evoke very different reactions from most people. The proximate reason is that, unlike male rape of females (which would probably have been a rather common form of primitive human behaviour, in fact see below *), a female raping a male simply doesn't trigger those explosive emotional tribal reactions the reverse does (in primitive societies rape and female sexuality-related issues in general are often a cause of things like family feuds and even tribal warfare, a testimony to the irrationality of it all).

A bit more than a decade ago, the biologist Thornhill and anthropologist Palmer made the feminists literally berserk with their work "A Natural History of Rape: Biological Bases of Sexual Coercion" in which they set out to deflate the popular feminist wisdom that rape basically has nothing to do with biological human sexuality whatsoever and is instead about "power", i.e. an expression of the nonexistent "patriarchy". Thornhill and Palmer may have ventured a bit too far in speculative waters in their hypothesis that rape might even be "adaptive", but if sexual behaviour does not have something to do with evolution, then frankly nothing does.
 
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The man is clearly going through an intellectual deficit, I find it better to ignore such as those and talk amongst the adults. It does wonders for the enjoyment of NarutoBase.

Oh yeah because your so much better than me and know everything there is to know. You aren't even done with high school yet lol.....it's cool though I was the same way.
 

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People may find a man being raped as funny due to the long held beliefs of what a man is. Some large contributing factors would be:

A man is strong.
A man is supposed to suppress his feelings.

The first being something that is honestly completely negligible when talking about most rape cases considering the use of drugs or weapons being possible. But the fact that men are held as being strong, makes people make fun of a man who was raped, because it insults his masculinity.

The second being suppression of feelings, i'm sure every man can relate to hiding how they feel. Most men will hide something or simply not think about something that makes them cry, because a man crying is often seen as a huge sign of weakness and harm a man's masculinity due to being made fun of. Of course since they don't show their pain, a lot of men never tell anyone about it

While I think these two things contribute a lot, it would be fair to say that stereotypes of males and the public's view of those stereotypes is the reason as to why people will make fun of a man for being raped.


Also on the point of Arousal. It should be obvious that Arousal is partially controllable. Humans have the ability to think and envision things in their head that can make them aroused or hinder their arousal. There are also times when arousal can't be partially controlled, such as when a person is unconscious (of course many other examples exist). That being said, it is only partial control and not complete control. In addition, being aroused does not mean a person consents to ***.
 

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Google that. All we can control is our muscles is bullshit. Have you ever heard of an involuntary muscle?

Yeah involuntary muscle like the heart. I know my biology involuntary means not voluntary in other words not controlled by a person intentionally. Try making your heart beat faster intentionally. You don't control involuntary muscles that's why they are called involuntary. In fact the heart isn't even controlled by the brain it's a self stimulating muscle. Are you just playing around because I find it hard to believe that you don't get this.
 
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People may find a man being raped as funny due to the long held beliefs of what a man is. Some large contributing factors would be:

A man is strong.
A man is supposed to suppress his feelings.

The first being something that is honestly completely negligible when talking about most rape cases considering the use of drugs or weapons being possible. But the fact that men are held as being strong, makes people make fun of a man who was raped, because it insults his masculinity.

The second being suppression of feelings, i'm sure every man can relate to hiding how they feel. Most men will hide something or simply not think about something that makes them cry, because a man crying is often seen as a huge sign of weakness and harm a man's masculinity due to being made fun of. Of course since they don't show their pain, a lot of men never tell anyone about it

While I think these two things contribute a lot, it would be fair to say that stereotypes of males and the public's view of those stereotypes is the reason as to why people will make fun of a man for being raped.


Also on the point of Arousal. It should be obvious that Arousal is partially controllable. Humans have the ability to think and envision things in their head that can make them aroused or hinder their arousal. There are also times when arousal can't be partially controlled, such as when a person is unconscious (of course many other examples exist). That being said, it is only partial control and not complete control. In addition, being aroused does not mean a person consents to ***.

You're pretty on point. Again I thought of the Shia Lebouf incident when I read this. When he revealed he was raped online, a lot of men responded with comments about how weak he was and how he was a ***** and stuff like that
 

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It's like a one sided thing for women. They tend to get away with more things than us men.
 

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It's like a one sided thing for women. They tend to get away with more things than us men.

I don't know why people are saying this like men don't get away with a lot of things women get scrutinised for.
 
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