[Discussion] Rant about Sanji

[Angelic.]

i agree he should of "kicked" his ass

 

[ToshiZO]

He had Nami and the rest at gunpoint and captured. Sanji is not risking getting them killed if he acted. Not to mention Capone isn't some fodder, he has the same title as Luffy and Zoro from the worst generation.

This was more Chopper and Nami's fault for being nosy.

If Zoro was there, it would've been worse. Literally Nami, Chopper and Brook would've died due to his reckless/idiotic way of fighting. Same goes for Luffy most likely, unless he could knock them out with CoC but even then who knows what Capone can do. What Sanji did was the smartest decision after witnessing Capone's nature. It doesn't necessarily imply he's inferior to Capone.

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Zoro isn't fodderizing shit LOL. He'd end up getting his crewmates killed the moment he draws out his sword.

Zoro's not an idiot, he wouldn't have attacked Capone with Nami and them in danger.

 

[ultraChalk]

I rarely dislike posts but wow op the bias is real.

So, why do you pin this entire situation on Sanji? Why don't you ask why Chopper Nami or Brook didn't do anything as well? He's their partner, not their babysitter. They were holding him back in this situation, I can guarantee you it woulda been a WRAP had they not been there.

He cannot be held responsible for them getting captured.

 

[Love Cook]

guns are still a threat in One Piece, that's one thing Oda has done pretty cleverly. (Fruit user exceptions aside)

But look how Law was gunned down, or Fisher Tiger or Pekoms.

If capone has 20 men out with machine guns there is no running from that.

Besides Sanji nodded to Capone to talk in private and Nami and Chopper followed them.

If sanji started kicking bullets would be flying now.

Besides everything was plot device to have Capone explain about the Winsmoke wedding.

 

[loj]

What do you expect? Sanji is strong no question about it but they were outnumbered...

 

[Yubel]

Then capone would've got him. And if it was Kidd's crew.. it'd probably even be a worst situation.


Oda is kind of dropping the ball with all the strawhats (main man luffy included).

Luffy just finished whooping Doflamingo's ass. What the hell are you talking about? Only ones who're shit right now are Sanji and Chopper.

 

[Bogard]

Let's wait what mister prince will do in next chapters. He most probably did something considering Nami and co somehow managed to escape unless they got an arrangement to let them go

 

[bajram]

Not everyone who holds a gun is fodder, those were Capones crew and one of them was probably his first mate or something the one who did catch nami and Chooper, as far as we know Ben Beckman and Yassop have used only guns until now and most of us consider them extremely strong and not everyone is a logia to be able to fend that and not everyone has the physical ability of WB or other strong pirates to be able to brush away stabs and gun wounds just like that, nami as well as chopper are pretty fragile and not much gunshots would be needed to kill both of them,u saw how even a strong pirate like Pekoms was done in when he was off-guard despite being able to fend off easily against a gatling gun back in FI, long story short he had hostages that he could shot straight away and Sanji was the only one who could probably dodge the bullets due to COO and he could not afford to have his weak crewmates being shot down and the core crew of a supernova is probably skilled enough to take down someone like nami or Chopper.

 

[Yubel]

Let's wait what mister prince will do in next chapters. He most probably did something considering Nami and co somehow managed to escape unless they got an arrangement to let them go

Considering his track record of failure and the fact that he was powerless to stop Capone. I don't see the situation changing much in his favor. Capone most likely let them go of his own accord.

 

[ssjelf]

I feel like people are seriously underestimating his crew, I feel like those guys are likely along the line of elite marines. It also seemed like they had advanced weapons like gatling guns and the like and he had cannons, I dont think there was much sanji could have done without nami and chopper being killed.

 

[KingForever7]

It's this notion that people are always gonna underrate characters (like capone) who were under-represented previously in the story.

....and so when Oda makes characters like him suprisingly formidable, some people would get salty about it.

 

[Akuma]

It's rare to see this, but for the sake of plot and for the sake of intruducing this shocking set of events, Oda ****ed up the interactions that should have taken place and replaced them with ones were Capone actually has any sense of domination. Let's face it, Brook and Sanji alone could've taken care of the men that surrounded them, it wasn't the first time they've been surrounded.

The way it was played out made the chapter go from a 5 star to a 3 star, such a shame. Even going to the length of "killing off" Pekoms, who up to this day had served as Big Mom's representative.

Caeser, Monster Chopper, Black Leg, Soul Brook, come on. Even Nami would've served use in this type of battle. Not to mention the Mink were nowhere on sight, how convenient.

It's this notion that people are always gonna underrate characters (like capone) who were under-represented previously in the story.

....and so when Oda makes characters like him suprisingly formidable, some people would get salty about it.

His fruit is weak as hell. =_= He carries around a small army and guns, ok...so he has his own small Marines Ship, which to this date, hasn't been known to stop any Pirates worth mentioning. Didn't Ace destroy 3 ships with 1 attack...so in theory, he can one shot Capone right?

 

[ToshiZO]

It's rare to see this, but for the sake of plot and for the sake of intruducing this shocking set of events, Oda ****ed up the interactions that should have taken place and replaced them with ones were Capone actually has any sense of domination. Let's face it, Brook and Sanji alone could've taken care of the men that surrounded them, it wasn't the first time they've been surrounded.

The way it was played out made the chapter go from a 5 star to a 3 star, such a shame. Even going to the length of "killing off" Pekoms, who up to this day had served as Big Mom's representative.

Caeser, Monster Chopper, Black Leg, Soul Brook, come on. Even Nami would've served use in this type of battle. Not to mention the Mink were nowhere on sight, how convenient.

Lmfao this was the dumbest thing I've read in a while.

Edit: Oh good you edited that part out.

 

[Uzumaki Macho]

It's rare to see this, but for the sake of plot and for the sake of intruducing this shocking set of events, Oda ****ed up the interactions that should have taken place and replaced them with ones were Capone actually has any sense of domination. Let's face it, Brook and Sanji alone could've taken care of the men that surrounded them, it wasn't the first time they've been surrounded.

The way it was played out made the chapter go from a 5 star to a 3 star, such a shame. Even going to the length of "killing off" Pekoms, who up to this day had served as Big Mom's representative.

Caeser, Monster Chopper, Black Leg, Soul Brook, come on. Even Nami would've served use in this type of battle. Not to mention the Mink were nowhere on sight, how convenient.

His fruit is weak as hell. =_= He carries around a small army and guns, ok...so he has his own small Marines Ship, which to this date, hasn't been known to stop any Pirates worth mentioning. Didn't Ace destroy 3 ships with 1 attack...so in theory, he can one shot Capone right?

Are you seriously suggesting that Ace would easily one shot a member of the Worst Generation?

 

[lelerskates]

Well isnt this still a flashback? Nami and chopper never get taken since they are on the island when luffy and the rest get their btw capone is worth 3 billion berries that's more than jack just incase you guys didn't realize

Youre an idiot. hes at 300 million it was a translation error and Sanji is fodder.

 

[scorezor]

You trying to get Nami and Chopper killed huh? You should know Sanji will not put Nami's in life in danger, even if he doesn't mention it. Also, Capone just shot up his boy for being soft. You think Sanji is about to try someone like that when they have the advantage? That's foolish man. Not to mention, he went to Capone and Pekoms thinking it was just two of them. Which is why he took Brook. Had no idea he was gonna get outnumbered and outgunned real quick.

this.

guns are still a threat in One Piece, that's one thing Oda has done pretty cleverly. (Fruit user exceptions aside)

But look how Law was gunned down, or Fisher Tiger or Pekoms.

If capone has 20 men out with machine guns there is no running from that.

Besides Sanji nodded to Capone to talk in private and Nami and Chopper followed them.

If sanji started kicking bullets would be flying now.

Besides everything was plot device to have Capone explain about the Winsmoke wedding.

and this.

 

[Love Cook]

Considering his track record of failure and the fact that he was powerless to stop Capone. I don't see the situation changing much in his favor. Capone most likely let them go of his own accord.

You're just grasping now.

You can say a lot about Sanji but his plans always work. He actually uses his head before he sticks his foot up someones ass.

To sum up a few feats:

He played Crocodile saved the crew
He played the marines at Enies Lobby, saved the crew
He mobilized G5, Saved the children

So in the end he gets shit done, and to now go hard on him in the very first chapter Bege appeared and to expect him to kick his ass. That's just plain stupid. How would you imagine this chapter going:

Bege enters stage -> Sanji beats him -> Now what ? -> Oda sends in another character ? -> Sanji needs to beat him again

Just repeat this until they fail so you can start addressing his weakness ? Don't forget that they just saved the entire island of Zou.

Sanji doesn't know the extent of Bege's powers and Nami and chopper would end with a bullet in the head and Ceaser with a Kairoseki spear in his ass. So unless Sanji pulled off some emperor haki there was no way out of that situation.

Besides it was time for Bege to explain the wedding, something that would be hard to do when you would've killed him off in this chapter.

Please don't ever start writing story's you would suck at it.

 

[Yubel]

You're just grasping now.

You can say a lot about Sanji but his plans always work. He actually uses his head before he sticks his foot up someones ass.

To sum up a few feats:

He played Crocodile saved the crew
He played the marines at Enies Lobby, saved the crew
He mobilized G5, Saved the children

So in the end he gets shit done, and to now go hard on him in the very first chapter Bege appeared and to expect him to kick his ass. That's just plain stupid. How would you imagine this chapter going:

Bege enters stage -> Sanji beats him -> Now what ? -> Oda sends in another character ? -> Sanji needs to beat him again

Just repeat this until they fail so you can start addressing his weakness ? Don't forget that they just saved the entire island of Zou.

Sanji doesn't know the extent of Bege's powers and Nami and chopper would end with a bullet in the head and Ceaser with a Kairoseki spear in his ass. So unless Sanji pulled off some emperor haki there was no way out of that situation.

Besides it was time for Bege to explain the wedding, something that would be hard to do when you would've killed him off in this chapter.

Please don't ever start writing story's you would suck at it.

Man stfu, I didn't say he needs to beat Capone, just stop being useless and taking L's all the time. He's part of the "Monster Trio" but he can't protect his crew. All he done is get his ass whooped ever since Timeskip.

 

[Love Cook]

Man stfu, I didn't say he needs to beat Capone, just stop being useless and taking L's all the time. He's part of the "Monster Trio" but he can't protect his crew. All he done is get his ass whooped ever since Timeskip.

You don't know what the hell you're talking about. I just told you why your lame ass post wasn't making any sense and now you come back with this.

Sanji stalled against Vergo and lost vs Doflamingo, big whoop. No one in the crew would've gotten a better result besides Luffy.

Besides Sanji has been protecting them just fine, no one is hurt yet and if you want to blame someone blame nami and chopper.

Sanji's only option is to diplomatically solve the problem, what you seem to forget is that this is a flashback and we already know that Nami and Chopper are fine. So he pretty much did what you're asking from him right ?

The year of Sanji is ecactly 1 chapter old, and you're already shitting on it. You're the most impatient little douche I've seen in this section for a long time. Stop making bullshit threads or post stupid things if you don't have any arguments. Now you just look stupid.

 

[-ahhimane-]

You saw, Capone didn't even blink an eye to shoot Pekoms, one of Big Mom's Pirate crew member. If Sanji had taken a step, Capone would have had killed one of the SH Hostage without thinking.
Sanji is the smartest who knows when to shut up and when to act. He did the right thing.