[Tier] Rank these Genjutsu users

adeshina365

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Obito (MS)
Kurenai
C ("Shee")
Shisui
Danzou
Rinnegan Sasuke
EMS Sasuke
Hashirama
Tayuya
Gengetsu
Ma & Pa
Kakashi
Itachi
EMS Madara
 

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Ma&Pa because their genjutsu affected the rinnegan
Itachi
Rinnegan sasuke
The rest who cares it never works for anyone but itachi and against tailed beasts
 

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juubi madara/kaguya
itachi
danzo
obito/ems madara
rinnegan sasuke/shisui
C
kurenai (appearently rivals itachi)(otherwise rank below sound gen)
ma pa/tayuya/kabuto
kakashi
ems sasuke
hashi



basing it off most variety and effective genjutsu in most situations. including izanami, izanagi, infinite tsuku.
 
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juubi madara/kaguya
itachi
danzo
obito/ems madara
rinnegan sasuke/shisui
C
kurenai (appearently rivals itachi)(otherwise rank below sound gen)
ma pa/tayuya/kabuto
kakashi
ems sasuke
hashi



basing it off most variety and effective genjutsu in most situations. including izanami, izanagi, infinite tsuku.
Why is Rinnegan Sasuke that low??
 

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I wouldn't place Madara/Kaguya over Itachi because of I.T. Sasuke was confident that Kakashi could undo it with the Rinnegan, so I think I.T. is more of a byproduct of the special Rinnegan rather than actual talent.

In terms of Genjutsu talent Itachi is the best.
 

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Why is Rinnegan Sasuke that low??

rinne gen vs izanagi in variety and/or effectiveness.
it could go either way but I chose to put izanagi above those who lack but also that they can use other unique genjutsu feats as well. something sasuke practically lacks outside of rinnegan.
- kaguya, itachi the exception because of IT and nami.

@booker. I agree, but that IT is practically a one shot guaranteed without rare exceptions. in skill, yes itachi should be above them obviously but I remember that even before itachi shown his other gen feats people hyped him up as tier 0 skilled gen user solely because of tsukuyomi one shot. I don't see that any different than juubidara IT one shot
 
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