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He's forcefully bouncing around. I don't think so.

He bounced back after the attack landed, meaning Law would be like 2 km away from him and that is if he is able to block it paritally like Doflamingo
If he can hit Doffy so easily he would hit Law even simpler
 

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He bounced back after the attack landed, meaning Law would be like 2 km away from him, enough time to recover
If he can hit Doffy so easily he would hit Law even simpler

Law's room is huge so he can just teleport to Luffy while he's bouncing around.
 

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Law's room is huge so he can just teleport to Luffy while he's bouncing around.

it will be quite hard to even know where Luffy is don't u think ? If he is smashed a mile away...
Even Doffy was wondering where he was. That happened in an instant btw. There was no 'oh s!t I'm being punched away' it was just Bam and he was in the middle of the city
The better question would be if Law could even get up from an attack like Luffy showed.. Even Doffy called the power obscene
 
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1. Sabo
2. Doflamingo
3. Luffy
4. Jinbe
5. Ace
6. Law
7. Zoro
8. Vergo
9. Smoker
10. Sanji
11. Burgess
Not so sure about Hakuba, want to see more of him first.
 

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1. Sabo
2. Doflamingo/Luffy
3. Luffy/Doflamingo
4. Law
5. Burgess
6. Zoro
7. Ace/Jinbe/Vergo
8. Smoker/Sanji
9. Hakuba

1. Sabo
2. Doflamingo
3. Burgess
4. Luffy
5. Law
6. Zoro/Smoker
7. Zoro/Smoker
8. Ace/Sanji
9. Ace/Sanji
10. Jinbe
11. Hakuba
 

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Let's put it this way. Law is like Sugar in the fact that his techniques are so hax that if he hits you once, you can be fucked up, but if his hax doesn't work on someone for one or another reason, it comes down to general fighting strength and his fighting strength is still lower than Luffy's. I don't understand people who think that rankings are only based on match-ups. That's a so rudimentary way of thinking. From what we've seen, Law's general fighting strength isn't even higher than Zoro's
 

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1. Sabo
2. Doflamingo/Luffy
3. Luffy/Doflamingo
4. Jinbe
5. Zorro/Law
6. Law/Zorro
7. Vergo
8. Sanji
 
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Yeah, and? LOL. DD still couldn't react to it. What's Luffy going to do when he's bouncing around?

That's because he was expecting an attack from Luffy which he could Tank, but then it was Law with Luffy's gear 2 speed. So yes doffy could not react because Luffy is fast and and he was already too close to him when the shambles happened.
How much do we need to make you understand physics?
 

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That's because he was expecting an attack from Luffy which he could Tank, but then it was Law with Luffy's gear 2 speed. So yes doffy could not react because Luffy is fast and and he was already too close to him when the shambles happened.
How much do we need to make you understand physics?

He still couldn't since he was screaming Law's name right before the attack. As for the whole G2 speed, we've already seen Doffy react to Luffy's second gear before so that's not excusable. Just because Luffy's second gear is fast doesn't mean Luffy will dodge all of Law's attacks, especially in Law's room where he has the ability to move freely and switch his body with objects. My question remains unanswered as well. How is Luffy going to react to Law's Gamma knife when he's bouncing around?
Btw, you ignored my post that was directed towards you :) Nice.
 

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He still couldn't since he was screaming Law's name right before the attack. As for the whole G2 speed, we've already seen Doffy react to Luffy's second gear before so that's not excusable. Just because Luffy's second gear is fast doesn't mean Luffy will dodge all of Law's attacks, especially in Law's room where he has the ability to move freely and switch his body with objects. My question remains unanswered as well. How is Luffy going to react to Law's Gamma knife when he's bouncing around?
Btw, you ignored my post that was directed towards you :) Nice.

Dude like seriously? it takes you what 2 seconds to say "LAW!" and you expect him to dodge a full frontal attack in 2 seconds with a surprise like that? What do you think doflamingo has light speed reactions or something?

And I ignored that post because part of it was replied to by others, and the part about chimney requires me to do some research for which I don't have time. So, I'll see if I can get back to that later.
 

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He still couldn't since he was screaming Law's name right before the attack. As for the whole G2 speed, we've already seen Doffy react to Luffy's second gear before so that's not excusable. Just because Luffy's second gear is fast doesn't mean Luffy will dodge all of Law's attacks, especially in Law's room where he has the ability to move freely and switch his body with objects. My question remains unanswered as well. How is Luffy going to react to Law's Gamma knife when he's bouncing around?
Btw, you ignored my post that was directed towards you :) Nice.

Doflamingo thought Law was dead. Him suddenly appearing right in front of him shocked DD, which is why he couldn't react. Why wouldn't Luffy be able to attack Law while bouncing.
 

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Dude like seriously? it takes you what 2 seconds to say "LAW!" and you expect him to dodge a full frontal attack in 2 seconds with a surprise like that? What do you think doflamingo has light speed reactions or something?

And I ignored that post because part of it was replied to by others, and the part about chimney requires me to do some research for which I don't have time. So, I'll see if I can get back to that later.

No, I don't think he has light speed reactions but what's going to be any different with Luffy? Law can use that rock/pebble trick he used against Doffy on Luffy but instead of throwing just one, he can use multiple rocks. Unless you think Luffy will come out of the battle unscathed, while is untrue.

Wait... you don't actually think that the whole bouncing around stuff was comedic and not to be taken seriously, right? The reaction from the crowd was comedic. Chimney had a similar reaction to that I believe when Luffy shrink in size. By your logic, Luffy's drawback of shrinking in size when he used gear 3rd for the first time was just comedy. It's the reaction itself that Oda tries to make comedic not the drawback itself since we saw gear 3rd's drawbacks even after enies lobby.

Doflamingo thought Law was dead. Him suddenly appearing right in front of him shocked DD, which is why he couldn't react. Why wouldn't Luffy be able to attack Law while bouncing.

True but Doflamingo could of dodged it partially or at least covered himself with CoA. Luffy bouncing around would still hinder his ability to react effectively to Law's attacks, especially since that Law could attack in any direction he likes.
 
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No, I don't think he has light speed reactions but what's going to be any different with Luffy? Law can use that rock/pebble trick he used against Doffy on Luffy but instead of throwing just one, he can use multiple rocks. Unless you think Luffy will come out of the battle unscathed, while is untrue.

No. Law cannot pull the same trick on luffy.
Firstly cause he won't have the support of luffy's speed or the element of surprise on his side. (As was the case with doflamingo)
And by the time law picks up rocks and throws them he would "Red-haked" multiple times with "Red Hawk gatling"
And we all know Law is not as strong as Doffy to tank a red-hawk gatling.

Wait... you don't actually think that the whole bouncing around stuff was comedic and not to be taken seriously, right? The reaction from the crowd was comedic. Chimney had a similar reaction to that I believe when Luffy shrink in size. By your logic, Luffy's drawback of shrinking in size when he used gear 3rd for the first time was just comedy. It's the reaction itself that Oda tries to make comedic not the drawback itself since we saw gear 3rd's drawbacks even after enies lobby.

I am not saying the drawback (which we are not even sure is a drawback) is comedic. Stop being presumptuous.
A guy who can actually use geppo to travel around or who can fly only bounced around that time because he had sent doflamingo flying miles away.
It is not like he has to start bouncing everytime he uses a attack. It was just the recoil of Rhino that made him bounce. Stop thinking the bouncing had anything to do with being a drawback of Boundman. Gear 4 Luffy can actually fly, I don't understand how law fights a flying luffy who can be so fast that even doflamingo can't spot him in time.
 

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No. Law cannot pull the same trick on luffy.
Firstly cause he won't have the support of luffy's speed or the element of surprise on his side. (As was the case with doflamingo)
And by the time law picks up rocks and throws them he would "Red-haked" multiple times with "Red Hawk gatling"
And we all know Law is not as strong as Doffy to tank a red-hawk gatling.
Why wouldn't he have the element of surprise? Law's endurance is good as well so he can tank those attacks, not to the degree that Doflamingo did but still tank those hits.

I am not saying the drawback (which we are not even sure is a drawback) is comedic. Stop being presumptuous.
A guy who can actually use geppo to travel around or who can fly only bounced around that time because he had sent doflamingo flying miles away.
It is not like he has to start bouncing everytime he uses a attack. It was just the recoil of Rhino that made him bounce. Stop thinking the bouncing had anything to do with being a drawback of Boundman. Gear 4 Luffy can actually fly, I don't understand how law fights a flying luffy who can be so fast that even doflamingo can't spot him in time.
You sure? You fully said that the bounce thing was for humor. Did I say it will happen every time he uses an attack? Nope. Law can always attack Luffy when he's "charging up" to use gear fourth. You're also underestimating the range of Law's room which covered a mountain range easily. Law's DF was able to cut through Vergo's monstrous haki, the SAD factory and mountains in just one slash.
 

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Why wouldn't he have the element of surprise? Law's endurance is good as well so he can tank those attacks, not to the degree that Doflamingo did but still tank those hits.

"Why wouldn.t he have the element of surprise?" Its like debating with a brick wall.

You sure? You fully said that the bounce thing was for humor. Did I say it will happen every time he uses an attack? Nope. Law can always attack Luffy when he's "charging up" to use gear fourth. You're also underestimating the range of Law's room which covered a mountain range easily. Law's DF was able to cut through Vergo's monstrous haki, the SAD factory and mountains in just one slash.

I fully said that bounce thing was for humour. The humour on that page was "A guy appears who sends the most feared man in dressrossa flying and then starts bouncing". So I think that bounce thing was only created by Oda to create humour in the first place and is not a drawback, cause no other attack shows him bouncing around.

So you labelling the bouncing as a drawback of gear 4 may only be true upto 10%. (Meaning only limited to one attack or not at all)

And I think I'll stop at this, cause I think I have made myself clear plenty of times as many others have tried doing it too.
 

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"Why wouldn.t he have the element of surprise?" Its like debating with a brick wall.



I fully said that bounce thing was for humour. The humour on that page was "A guy appears who sends the most feared man in dressrossa flying and then starts bouncing". So I think that bounce thing was only created by Oda to create humour in the first place and is not a drawback, cause no other attack shows him bouncing around.

So you labelling the bouncing as a drawback of gear 4 may only be true upto 10%. (Meaning only limited to one attack or not at all)

And I think I'll stop at this, cause I think I have made myself clear plenty of times as many others have tried doing it too.

Likewise, you just can't answer simple questions so you resort to insults. Typical behavior.

A drawback is a drawback. It can exist for one attack or multiple attacks, that would mean that Luffy may have multiple drawbacks seeing how powerful G4 is. Yes, you should stop since your points aren't really adding up and you can't answer some of my questions properly. I already made it clear that it's early to judge who's the true winner since we barely scratched the surface of gear 4th's potential and it's arsenal of attacks with the drawbacks that it offers as well.
 
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