[Discussion] Rank the Captains of Gotei 13

Beetle · Oct 6, 2014

Leaving out Zero division:

Yamamoto
Aizen
Urahara
Kenpachi/Byakuya
Byakuya/Kenpachi
Unohana
Shunsui
Ukitake
Isshin
Yoruichi
Mayuri
Shinji
Gin
Komamura
Kensei/Love
Love/Kensei
Hitsugaya
Sui Fong
Tosen

KGB Kakuzu · Oct 6, 2014

1. Yamamoto

2. Aizen/Unohana

3. Unohana/Aizen

--------------------------------Urahara

4. Shunsui

5. Ukitake/Zaraki**

6. Zaraki/Ukitake**

--------------------------------Isshin

7. Mayuri

8. Byakuya

--------------------------------Yoruichi

9. Gin

10. Shinji

11. Love/Kinsei

12. Kinsei/Love

13. Sui-Feng

14. Hitsugaya

15. Tousen

16. Komamura

**Pending Ukitake's health.

Forbidden Tale · Oct 6, 2014

@ KGB Kakuzu

Just curious, why Zaraki lower than Unohana.

kotoamatsukami · Oct 7, 2014

Forbidden Tale said:
We know that Aizen said that they were equal while Aizen was in 1st form, BUT

- Aizen also had his semi forms, which Urahara was able to damage, while figting, there is possibility that Aizen didn' refer to his shinigami self, but to that form.

Either way, I see what are you talking about, I would say that all three: Urahara, Isshin and Aizen are relative close in power.

1. Hitsugaya did need some time to learn bankai, it's probably true that it took him less time than it took Kyoraku, but Kyoraku for sure wouldn't need 1000 years to learn his bankai.

2. Gotei was formed 1000 years ago, so they weren't captains for more than that.

3. Aizen is one of most talented people in Bleach, for him to not have bankai would be absurd. But even if that's true, I'm talking here when both of them are in their full power, since we can assume how powerful Urahara is in bankai, when we know how much bankai increase power.

Kyoraku probaly learn bankai 700 to 800 years ago..well this is kyoraku before 1000 years ago

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so yea he probaly won't the first to graduate From the academy but he is one of the strongest.

An I'm talking when they were just division like Bach said which was before 1000 years ago.

After seeing what he can do with his shikai he probably had no care to get bankai,especially sense he planned to get the hogyoku aswell.
Too bad we won't be seeing urahara bankai anytime soon.

Killua Zoldyck · Oct 7, 2014

Isshin is probably stronger then both Urahara and Aizen. Muken Zaraki has better feats then all three without using two hands and his patch on, I don't see how they can possibly be ahead of him. Byakuya is also stronger then all three of them (Granted I do include hype when I say that).

-Akuma- · Oct 7, 2014

Forbidden Tale said:
We know that Aizen said that they were equal while Aizen was in 1st form, BUT

- Aizen also had his semi forms, which Urahara was able to damage, while figting, there is possibility that Aizen didn' refer to his shinigami self, but to that form.

Either way, I see what are you talking about, I would say that all three: Urahara, Isshin and Aizen are relative close in power.

1. Hitsugaya did need some time to learn bankai, it's probably true that it took him less time than it took Kyoraku, but Kyoraku for sure wouldn't need 1000 years to learn his bankai.

2. Gotei was formed 1000 years ago, so they weren't captains for more than that.

3. Aizen is one of most talented people in Bleach, for him to not have bankai would be absurd. But even if that's true, I'm talking here when both of them are in their full power, since we can assume how powerful Urahara is in bankai, when we know how much bankai increase power.

I highly think he was referring to his shinigami form, and plus Urahara did appear to damage Aizen body but it did no real damage at all. Though I can see where you were coming from.

Forbidden Tale · Oct 7, 2014

kotoamatsukami said:
Kyoraku probaly learn bankai 700 to 800 years ago..well this is kyoraku before 1000 years ago
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so yea he probaly won't the first to graduate From the academy but he is one of the strongest.

An I'm talking when they were just division like Bach said which was before 1000 years ago.

After seeing what he can do with his shikai he probably had no care to get bankai,especially sense he planned to get the hogyoku aswell.
Too bad we won't be seeing urahara bankai anytime soon.

1. Where do you getting these ages?

2. If I remember correctly, Shinigami military existed before, but divisions didn't exist.

Killuaa · Oct 8, 2014

Forbidden Tale said:
Rank the Captains of Gotei 13.

All time Captains, so including likes of Urahara, Isshin.... Also if you want you can include RG as well and Tessai...

My list:

1. Shigekuni Genryusai Yamamoto
2. Kisuke Urahara
3. Isshin Shiba
4. Sosuke Aizen (Shinigami self)
5. Muken Kenpachi Zaraki
6. Byakuya Kuchiki (post RR training)
7. Retsu Unohana
8. Yoruichi Shihoin
9. Sajin Komamura (Human)
10. Shinji Hirako
11. Shunsui Kyoraku / Juushiro Ukitake
12. Tessai Tsukibashi
13. Gin Ichimaru
14. Kensei Muguruma
15. Rojuro Ootoribashi / Love Aikawa
16. Toshiro Hitsugaya
17. Kaname Tosen
18. Sui Feng
19. Mayuri Kurotsuchi

Notes:

- Without Hogyoku Aizen since he was not a captain, if I include him, he would be 2nd.
- Muken Kenpachi Zaraki and RR Byakuya Kuchiki can probably go higher, but we don't have much feast to say for sure yet, their rank is lowest I see them, highest would be above Urahara.
- Pre Muken Kenpachi would be after Hitsugaya, same with Pre RR Byakuya, tho he would be slightly below Zaraki.
- Shinigami Sajin Komamura, IMO would be just above Mayuri Kurotsuchi.
- Tessai Tsukibashi is my assumption on how strong he would be, with his bankai, shikai and other kido abilities.
- Kaneme Tosen's rank is based on his Shinigami powers, with his ressurection he would be above Kensei.
- Power level of RG members are still unclear, I assume their power will go from above Urahara (Ichibei) to around Urahara's level (Oetsu and Kirinji) to around Yoruichi (Hikifune and Shutara).

Agree on most parts, I'd put Unohana above Byakuya though. Without prep; Isshin still seems superior to Urahara. Bankai Zaraki would be OP. Cant wait for it.

Question: since when was Tessai stated to be a captain?

kotoamatsukami · Oct 8, 2014

Forbidden Tale said:
1. Where do you getting these ages?

2. If I remember correctly, Shinigami military existed before, but divisions didn't exist.

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Bach states it here about the divisions...you must have a different translation.

As for the age thing seeing how strong he is he's had bankai for a very long time...but who knows?

TheEvilOne · Oct 8, 2014

1/ Yamamoto
2/ Aizen
3/ Kyouraku and Ukitake ( hype )
4/ Zaraki
5/ Unohana
6/ Urahara and Yoruichi
7/ Isshin
8/ Gin
9/ Byakuya
10/ Toshiro ( this kid has the biggest potential though, future Toshiro will be top 3 IMO )
11/ Sui Feng
12/ Love and the other guy
13/ Kommamura
14/ Tousen
15/ Mayuri ( with prep time and full intel he would be around 7 )

Forbidden Tale · Oct 8, 2014

kotoamatsukami said:
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Bach states it here about the divisions...you must have a different translation.

As for the age thing seeing how strong he is he's had bankai for a very long time...but who knows?

It say that division was founded 1000 years ago.

Killuaa said:
Agree on most parts, I'd put Unohana above Byakuya though. Without prep; Isshin still seems superior to Urahara. Bankai Zaraki would be OP. Cant wait for it.

Question: since when was Tessai stated to be a captain?

He was not captain of Gotei 13, he was captain of Kido corps, I said that you can include him as well if you want.

Vandenre1ch · Oct 8, 2014

1-Genryuusai Yammamoto
2-Kisuke Urahara
3-Isshin Shiba
4-Sosuke Aizen
5-Kenpachi Zaraki
6-Retsu Unohana
7-Byakuya Kuchiki
8-Shunsui Kyoraku
9-Jushiro Ukitake
10-Yoruichi Shihon
11-Sajin Komamura(human)
12-Shinji Hirako
13-Gin Ichimaru
14-Mayuri Kurotsuchi
15-Kensui Maburame
16-Rojuro/Rose
17-Soi Fon
18-Toshiro Hitsugaya
19-Love
20-Kaname Toshin

kotoamatsukami · Oct 9, 2014

Forbidden Tale said:
It say that division was founded 1000 years ago.

He was not captain of Gotei 13, he was captain of Kido corps, I said that you can include him as well if you want.

No Bach said before the 13 divisions were formed you guys were only divisions.

Forbidden Tale · Oct 9, 2014

kotoamatsukami said:
No Bach said before the 13 divisions were formed you guys were only divisions.

At the beginning (at the time when G13 was formed) the 13 divisions that you founded (1000 years ago) were only called division.

Don't see what's unclear.

Phoenix110 · Oct 10, 2014

I haven't seen a satisfactory list and I can't make a list presently but most of the list were partially correct

kotoamatsukami · Oct 10, 2014

Forbidden Tale said:
At the beginning (at the time when G13 was formed) the 13 divisions that you founded (1000 years ago) were only called division.

Don't see what's unclear.

Yea yea I see

TheBrownJonin1023 · Oct 10, 2014

Yama
Aizen
Kenpachi/Unohana
Kisuke/Shunsui
Isshin/Jushiro
Byakuya
Sajin (Human)
Shinji
Yoruichi
Gin/ Kaname Tosen (Hollow)
Love/Kensei/Toshiro
Rose
Soi Fon/Kaname Tosen(no hollow)
Mayuri (No-prep)
Sajin ( Non-human)

TRE MERCER · Oct 10, 2014

List went to hell the moment you put that fodder in your avatar 2nd.

Forbidden Tale · Oct 11, 2014

YounqDebater said:
List went to hell the moment you put that fodder in your avatar 2nd.

Fodder? I suppose you are drunk?

1. Most intelligent person in the Bleach verse.
2. Aizen claimed that they are equal.
3. By feats best kido users in series.
4. Guardian of the maggot nest.
5. Speed blitzed Aizen
...

BlueMeteor · Oct 16, 2014

(Mayuri with prep)
Aizen
Urahara
Yamamoto
Zaraki
Unohana
Shunsui
Ukitake
Gin
Byakuya
Shinji

I'll come back and edit later

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