[Discussion] Rank the Captains of Gotei 13

[Forbidden Tale]

Rank the Captains of Gotei 13.

All time Captains, so including likes of Urahara, Isshin.... Also if you want you can include RG as well and Tessai...

My list:

1. Shigekuni Genryusai Yamamoto
2. Kisuke Urahara
3. Isshin Shiba
4. Sosuke Aizen (Shinigami self)
5. Muken Kenpachi Zaraki
6. Byakuya Kuchiki (post RR training)
7. Retsu Unohana
8. Yoruichi Shihoin
9. Sajin Komamura (Human)
10. Shinji Hirako
11. Shunsui Kyoraku / Juushiro Ukitake
12. Tessai Tsukibashi
13. Gin Ichimaru
14. Kensei Muguruma
15. Rojuro Ootoribashi / Love Aikawa
16. Toshiro Hitsugaya
17. Kaname Tosen
18. Sui Feng
19. Mayuri Kurotsuchi

Notes:

- Without Hogyoku Aizen since he was not a captain, if I include him, he would be 2nd.
- Muken Kenpachi Zaraki and RR Byakuya Kuchiki can probably go higher, but we don't have much feast to say for sure yet, their rank is lowest I see them, highest would be above Urahara.
- Pre Muken Kenpachi would be after Hitsugaya, same with Pre RR Byakuya, tho he would be slightly below Zaraki.
- Shinigami Sajin Komamura, IMO would be just above Mayuri Kurotsuchi.
- Tessai Tsukibashi is my assumption on how strong he would be, with his bankai, shikai and other kido abilities.
- Kaneme Tosen's rank is based on his Shinigami powers, with his ressurection he would be above Kensei.
- Power level of RG members are still unclear, I assume their power will go from above Urahara (Ichibei) to around Urahara's level (Oetsu and Kirinji) to around Yoruichi (Hikifune and Shutara).

 

[SharinganisOP]

The captains are all very strong, It's hard to order them since they can be useful in different situations. Isshin presumably has the ability to use the final getsuga tensho, so I would put him at 1.

1. Isshin
2. yamamoto
3. urahara
4. Freaky scientist captain with hard to pronounce name.
5. Aizen
6. Byakuya
7. Wolfman-post heart operation
8. Unohana
9. Gin
10. Yoruichi
11. shunsui
12. Ukitake
13. blind black man
14. the mask *****es, vizards
15. hitsugaya
16. soi feng

 

[Tobi98]

Kubo is always changing the power scalling so I don't think I can

 

[Goetia]

The captains are all very strong, It's hard to order them since they can be useful in different situations. Isshin presumably has the ability to use the final getsuga tensho, so I would put him at 1.

1. Isshin
2. yamamoto
3. urahara
4. Freaky scientist captain with hard to pronounce name.
5. Aizen
6. Byakuya
7. Wolfman-post heart operation
8. Unohana
9. Gin
10. Yoruichi
11. shunsui
12. Ukitake
13. blind black man
14. the mask *****es, vizards
15. hitsugaya
16. soi feng

If he had it, he would've used it.

OT: I agree with your list, but are you sure Shinigami Aizen is above Muken Zaraki?

 

[Forbidden Tale]

The captains are all very strong, It's hard to order them since they can be useful in different situations. Isshin presumably has the ability to use the final getsuga tensho, so I would put him at 1.

Hm, I would disagree with that. I'm not sure is even FGT Ichigo stronger than Yamamoto, but even if he is, which i don't think is the case, increase should be enormous, in order for Isshin to be on that level.

Even then, Ichigo (Before using FGT) was able to beat 3rd form of Hogyoku Aizen.
Isshin (assuming that he has FGT) is still without it, inferior to 1st form of Hogyoku Aizen and that by a lot.

So even if Isshin can use FGT, increase of FGT should be that great that would put Ichigo miles above Yamamoto (which I doubt).

Kubo is always changing the power scalling so I don't think I can

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OT: I agree with your list, but are you sure Shinigami Aizen is above Muken Zaraki?

Shinigami Aizen still has much better feast than Muken Zaraki.

Muken Zaraki beating Gremmy mid to high diff, is IMO nothing comparing to Shikai Aizen being able to slash multiple captain level fighters.

On top of that when I say Muken Zaraki I only count his shikai, without removing his eyepatch, and when I say Shinigami Aizen, I think of his bankai as well, estimation.

Gremmy IMO would be just slightly above Kyoraku. Aizen IMO is well above him.

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

I pretty much agree with your list, but keep one thing in mind!

Kyōraku and Ukitake were the first two to graduate Captain Yamamoto's Shin'ō Academy and currently the two oldest and most experienced Captains. On top of all, Kubo has yet to reveal their Bankais. . . I hope he really does, cuz I'm really excited about them. . . especially why Ukitake warned Shunsui not to release his Bankai "where others can see".

 

[Forbidden Tale]

I pretty much agree with your list, but keep one thing in mind!

Kyōraku and Ukitake were the first two to graduate Captain Yamamoto's Shin'ō Academy and currently the two oldest and most experienced Captains. On top of all, Kubo has yet to reveal their Bankais. . . I hope he really does, cuz I'm really excited about them. . . especially why Ukitake warned Shunsui not to release his Bankai "where others can see".

If I remember correctly, Manga never stated that they were first to graduate from academy. It would be odd, since Academy is there for more than 2000 years, and they become captains just around 200 years ago. They are first one from the academy that were promoted to captain position.

About Ukitake's statament, I believe it is because of it's effect. Shunui's zanpakuto special powers are games, when he realise his bankai, he will probably make big play ground and all who can feel his reiatsu will be forced to play games, that's why he didn't realise his bankai there, all shinigamis and arrancars would be affected. Tho, that's just my prediction.

 

[IKSOKRIPS]

If I remember correctly, Manga never stated that they were first to graduate from academy. It would be odd, since Academy is there for more than 2000 years, and they become captains just around 200 years ago. They are first one from the academy that were promoted to captain position.

About Ukitake's statament, I believe it is because of it's effect. Shunui's zanpakuto special powers are games, when he realise his bankai, he will probably make big play ground and all who can feel his reiatsu will be forced to play games, that's why he didn't realise his bankai there, all shinigamis and arrancars would be affected. Tho, that's just my prediction.

All in all, what I was trying to say was that they are not simply just another Shinigami with the position of Captains. . . :yeah:

 

[Forbidden Tale]

That's fair.

But I hope you realise that others above them are also special.

Yamamoto, don't need to say a word.
Aizen already proven to be stronger, and both Urahara and Isshin are implied to be around equal with him.
Zaraki is SWP and beast.
Unohana was portrayed as their senior, so she is likely stronger than them.

The others I ranked about them are Shinji, Komamura, Kuchiki and Yoruichi.

Yoruichi is captain level even without using her zanpakuto, and she is one of mainer character of the series, very likely to end stronger than them.
Byakuya, before his appearance, I believe that he will end weaker than them, but now I doubt that, tho we will now for sure when we see both in full power.
Komamura, his power level is still unclear.
And Shinji, to me Shinji seems stronger, since he did more damage to Aizen, than Shunsui. Tho, Shunsui can end stronger than him in the end.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

1. Yama-Ji

2. Aizen/Unohana

3. Shunsui

4. Ukitake/Zaraki*

5. Zaraki/Ukitake*

6. Mayuri

7. Byakuya

8. Shinji

9. Rose

10. Kinsei

12. Tousen

13. Sui-Feng

14. Hitsugaiya

15. Komomura

* Pending Ukitake's health

 

[Stark]

Yamamoto Genryusai
Kisuke Urahara
Sosuke Aizen
Kenpachi Zaraki
Isshin Kurosaki/Shunsui Kyoraku
Shunsui Kyoraku/Isshin Kurosaki
Byakuya Kuchiki
Shinji Hirako/Gin Ichimaru
Gin Ichimaru/Shinji Hirako
Retsu Unohana/Yoruichi Shihoin
Yoruichi Shihoin/Retsu Unohana
Toshiro Hitsugaya
Mayuri Kurotsuchi
Love Aikawa
Rose Ootoribashi
Kensei Muguruma
Kaname Tosen
Sajin Komamura
Current Sickly Jushiro Ukitake
Sui Feng

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Why Ukitake so low? Even while sick, Ukitake is able to give Starrk same battle as Kyoraku and fight with Yamamoto.

Why is Mayuri so high on the lists?

 

[kotoamatsukami]

Rank the Captains of Gotei 13.

All time Captains, so including likes of Urahara, Isshin.... Also if you want you can include RG as well and Tessai...

My list:

1. Shigekuni Genryusai Yamamoto
2. Kisuke Urahara
3. Isshin Shiba
4. Sosuke Aizen (Shinigami self)
5. Muken Kenpachi Zaraki
6. Byakuya Kuchiki (post RR training)
7. Retsu Unohana
8. Yoruichi Shihoin
9. Sajin Komamura (Human)
10. Shinji Hirako
11. Shunsui Kyoraku / Juushiro Ukitake
12. Tessai Tsukibashi
13. Gin Ichimaru
14. Kensei Muguruma
15. Rojuro Ootoribashi / Love Aikawa
16. Toshiro Hitsugaya
17. Kaname Tosen
18. Sui Feng
19. Mayuri Kurotsuchi

Notes:

- Without Hogyoku Aizen since he was not a captain, if I include him, he would be 2nd.
- Muken Kenpachi Zaraki and RR Byakuya Kuchiki can probably go higher, but we don't have much feast to say for sure yet, their rank is lowest I see them, highest would be above Urahara.
- Pre Muken Kenpachi would be after Hitsugaya, same with Pre RR Byakuya, tho he would be slightly below Zaraki.
- Shinigami Sajin Komamura, IMO would be just above Mayuri Kurotsuchi.
- Tessai Tsukibashi is my assumption on how strong he would be, with his bankai, shikai and other kido abilities.
- Kaneme Tosen's rank is based on his Shinigami powers, with his ressurection he would be above Kensei.
- Power level of RG members are still unclear, I assume their power will go from above Urahara (Ichibei) to around Urahara's level (Oetsu and Kirinji) to around Yoruichi (Hikifune and Shutara).

Yama states they were the first to graduate from his academy right before he fought the 2.

Lol an how you got urahara over Byakuya? When Byakuya just beat up on 5 captain level opponents without breaking a sweat an urahara has not done anything that comes close to that lol.

An hax god myuri at 19? Wow mind=blown.

Anyway it's

1.yama
2.zaraki/aizen
3.byakuya/unohana
4.kyoraku/ukitake/isshin/urahara
5.myuri
6.shinji
7.komomaru/gin
8.yourichi
9.tosen
10.Love aikawa
11.tessai Tsukibashi
12.hitsugiya
13.soi fon/kensei

 

[Forbidden Tale]

1. That depends of the translation. I personally think it was mistranslation, as I said, Academy is over 2000 years old, if Kyoraku and Ukitake are first to graduate from it, they would be part of the 1st generation of captains for sure.

2. Urahara has hype that is equal to Aizen. + It's unclear did Byakuya used his bankai or shikai. If he used his shikai, then I could see him being stronger, but I would still doubt that. If he used bankai, then, I'm not even doubting Urahara >Byakuya.

Mayuri actually never impressed me. This is ofc excludiong all his zombies. With only his powers, he is not really that good.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

1. That depends of the translation. I personally think it was mistranslation, as I said, Academy is over 2000 years old, if Kyoraku and Ukitake are first to graduate from it, they would be part of the 1st generation of captains for sure.

2. Urahara has hype that is equal to Aizen. + It's unclear did Byakuya used his bankai or shikai. If he used his shikai, then I could see him being stronger, but I would still doubt that. If he used bankai, then, I'm not even doubting Urahara >Byakuya.

Mayuri actually never impressed me. This is ofc excludiong all his zombies. With only his powers, he is not really that good.

Yea on manga panda he says the first to graduate from my academy..manga stream he says something different...well 1000 years ago kyoraku was in Yama room looking at a picture of him...the moment you graduate from the academy you don't become a captain you still have to work your way up in the seireitei I believe.

You make no sense if Byakuya did use bankai than that means his bankai is very strong cuz he beat them without much effort at all,an I doubt he used bankai..urahara has hype equal to aizen lol how? Like I said that manga scan you gave me a long times ago has two different translations,an the only way he can stand toe to toe with ks aizen is to use his bankai, that's if we are going by their power with no gadgets involved.

With only his power he is good he has new medicines an other stuff he adds to his bankai to make it better.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

1. Acedemy was founded more than 2000 years ago. If they were first to graduate from academy, the graduated at least 1996 years ago. 996 years later Gotei 13 was founded. So if Kyoraku graduated first in the academy, he would still had 996 years to become captain level and learn bankai. Considering that Kyoraku is one of most talented shinigamis in the series, he would done that in around 10 years. And he will still had more tham 900 years to become strogner. He for sure would make to the first generation captains if he graduated first.

2. The translation I gave you is official translation. It's not fan translation like Manga Panda or Stream.

 

[-Akuma-]

Rank the Captains of Gotei 13.

All time Captains, so including likes of Urahara, Isshin.... Also if you want you can include RG as well and Tessai...

My list:

1. Shigekuni Genryusai Yamamoto
2. Kisuke Urahara
3. Isshin Shiba
4. Sosuke Aizen (Shinigami self)
5. Muken Kenpachi Zaraki
6. Byakuya Kuchiki (post RR training)
7. Retsu Unohana
8. Yoruichi Shihoin
9. Sajin Komamura (Human)
10. Shinji Hirako
11. Shunsui Kyoraku / Juushiro Ukitake
12. Tessai Tsukibashi
13. Gin Ichimaru
14. Kensei Muguruma
15. Rojuro Ootoribashi / Love Aikawa
16. Toshiro Hitsugaya
17. Kaname Tosen
18. Sui Feng
19. Mayuri Kurotsuchi

Notes:

- Without Hogyoku Aizen since he was not a captain, if I include him, he would be 2nd.
- Muken Kenpachi Zaraki and RR Byakuya Kuchiki can probably go higher, but we don't have much feast to say for sure yet, their rank is lowest I see them, highest would be above Urahara.
- Pre Muken Kenpachi would be after Hitsugaya, same with Pre RR Byakuya, tho he would be slightly below Zaraki.
- Shinigami Sajin Komamura, IMO would be just above Mayuri Kurotsuchi.
- Tessai Tsukibashi is my assumption on how strong he would be, with his bankai, shikai and other kido abilities.
- Kaneme Tosen's rank is based on his Shinigami powers, with his ressurection he would be above Kensei.
- Power level of RG members are still unclear, I assume their power will go from above Urahara (Ichibei) to around Urahara's level (Oetsu and Kirinji) to around Yoruichi (Hikifune and Shutara).

Put favouritism to the side. Urahara was stated to be equal to Aizen.

 

[-Akuma-]

If he had it, he would've used it.

OT: I agree with your list, but are you sure Shinigami Aizen is above Muken Zaraki?

I doubt he would considering he didn't even use his shikai against Aizen.

 

[kotoamatsukami]

1. Acedemy was founded more than 2000 years ago. If they were first to graduate from academy, the graduated at least 1996 years ago. 996 years later Gotei 13 was founded. So if Kyoraku graduated first in the academy, he would still had 996 years to become captain level and learn bankai. Considering that Kyoraku is one of most talented shinigamis in the series, he would done that in around 10 years. And he will still had more tham 900 years to become strogner. He for sure would make to the first generation captains if he graduated first.

2. The translation I gave you is official translation. It's not fan translation like Manga Panda or Stream.

Hitsugiya was the only one to learn bankai very quickly...an no kyoraku would have not been part of the first generations of captains cuz they were captians for longer than 1000 years.

Yea they are equal in power cuz far as we know aizen only has a shikai an urahara has a bankai..in a shikai fight aizen wins.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Put favouritism to the side. Urahara was stated to be equal to Aizen.

We know that Aizen said that they were equal while Aizen was in 1st form, BUT

- Aizen also had his semi forms, which Urahara was able to damage, while figting, there is possibility that Aizen didn' refer to his shinigami self, but to that form.

Either way, I see what are you talking about, I would say that all three: Urahara, Isshin and Aizen are relative close in power.

Hitsugiya was the only one to learn bankai very quickly...an no kyoraku would have not been part of the first generations of captains cuz they were captians for longer than 1000 years.

Yea they are equal in power cuz far as we know aizen only has a shikai an urahara has a bankai..in a shikai fight aizen wins.

1. Hitsugaya did need some time to learn bankai, it's probably true that it took him less time than it took Kyoraku, but Kyoraku for sure wouldn't need 1000 years to learn his bankai.

2. Gotei was formed 1000 years ago, so they weren't captains for more than that.

3. Aizen is one of most talented people in Bleach, for him to not have bankai would be absurd. But even if that's true, I'm talking here when both of them are in their full power, since we can assume how powerful Urahara is in bankai, when we know how much bankai increase power.