Rank Oro without E.T.

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People we haven't seen him go all out yet. He fought against the sanin without his arms. He toyed with 4 tailed naruto! Ontop of that his body was giving up on him. His only weakness was everyones weakness which is itachi
 

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3rd generation Hokage (or younger) don't stand a chance against him in a 1vs1.

He probably knows every Kinjutsu out there, you can bet your ass that he has tons of jutsus to overcome pretty much anything that could be thrown at him.

And I honestly can't imagine anyone beeing able to kill him. Beat him? Yeah, but kill? No.
 

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Non of you in this thread has come up with any hard hitting facts. Why does Oro get away on hype alone. Oro hasn't shown anything powerful besides the ability to survive. Hiruzen called him a genius at war but as far as ninjutsu wise he's not that impressive.

P.S. Tobirama is hyped as the best suiton user but more than 80% of NB will say Kisame. So why does Oro get to use hype.
 
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well Oro really lived up to his hype slightly, but Hashi is the God of Shinobi by hype and by feats...



okay =D

I don't think Kakashi has surpassed Oro but I do believe he can beat him with kamui



he has some parts of his consciousness in Anko and Kabuto but he's not inside them, majority of his parts was sealed in Itachi's gourd that's why he had to retrieve his chakra from Kabuto the moment he was revived, if he could over took anko or kabuto's body he would have done it immediately and he didn't wait for so long..

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notice what Oro said in the above scan, he's obviously waiting for someone to revive him

Lol, Orochimaru never waited.. he was surprised sasuke, of all his minions would bring him back in his free own will,

thus the notion ''to think you'' comes into play, if orochi was waiting, he would say, i have waited for you sasuke kun

something along those lines, Orochi taking his chakra means nothing, he was fine prior to taking back his chakra, Lol

if he could over took anko or kabuto's body he would have done it immediately and he didn't wait for so long..

Orochimaru is a changed man, he is following the wind,

he has some parts of his consciousness in Anko and Kabuto but he's not inside them, majority of his parts was sealed in Itachi's gourd

again, orochi was inside them, if not, he wouldn't had his FULL body out when he was released, :|
 
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Lol, Orochimaru never waited.. he was surprised sasuke, of all his minions would bring him back in his free own will,

thus the notion ''to think you'' comes into play, if orochi was waiting, he would say, i have waited for you sasuke kun

something along those lines, Orochi taking his chakra means nothing, he was fine prior to taking back his chakra, Lol



Orochimaru is a changed man, he is following the wind,



again, orochi was inside them, if not, he wouldn't had his FULL body out when he was released, :|

He's waiting for someone to revive him, he just never expected Sasuke to be the on to revive him, but he is indeed waiting to be revived, if he could get out on his own, he should have been out long before even though he had a change of heart, he wants to witness Sasuke's wind right? so why didn't he get himself out to help or watch over Sasuke??? only a part of his consciousness was inside anko, he needed some cells from Kabuto to have a physical body, ever heard of mitosis???
 

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Kakashi can't defeat Orochimaru.u.u
At the max he can get away with a draw.
I don't think Kakashi has surpassed Oro but I do believe he can beat him with kamui
Maybe not surpassed but Kamui is more than enough to take Orochimaru out, I'd like to see him use oral rebirth from that U_U

And Lightning Transmission deals with barrages of snakes,
 
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other than Senju Tobirama he's the 2nd person to use edo tensei. He learned it, you can't take that away from him
 

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other than Senju Tobirama he's the 2nd person to use edo tensei. He learned it, you can't take that away from him

No, the second person to learn Edo Tensei was Uchiha Madara. Kabuto also mastered Edo Tenesi to a level higher than Orochimaru.
 

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with no ET

Orochimaru is at the best top 15

Juubi Jins, Hashirama, Naruto, Sasuke, Nagato and for now DSM Kabuto and rest top 10 anihilates Orochimaru in battle.

however I believe after new feats DSM Oro will surprass Kabuto and will be below to equal to Nagato at #6th place in top 10 without ET

Orochimaru with ET is #4th place after Juubi jins and Kabuto with ET for now at least ;).
 

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I guess he's low Kage at best...
without ET, he doesn't have an impressive offensive jutsu,
he's got good deffensive skills such as Rashomon and triple rashomon
but I don't think it can protect a whole village,
he's hard to kill... that's all but he can be sealed,
I hope he still have something up his sleeve besides his kinjutsus..
so what do you think is his rank without E.T.
I don't think OROCHIMARU gets the respect his due he really hasn't won a real fight but he as never been defeated in the sense of no return. plus Oro is more of a professor/scientist than a fighting ninja. Everybody in this manga has a once lost something or their life and if you take away the Uchiha's who else has cool jutsu like him
 

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Since he now also posesses zetsu abillities i think its safe to say hes top 10
 

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It's unknown how strong he really is.

We haven't been able to see him go all out like the other Sanin have. Every time he's in a fight he's either sick, doesn't have his arms or both. In the Hiruzen fight he let the Edo's do most of the work and he was very cocky and arrogant and this lead to his defeat, that and power scaling.

He's obviously Kage Level though.

... and that was before the Zetsu body boost and him getting his arms back. Who knows what Forbidden Jutsu he has,,,
 

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thanks =D you can watch the video on youtube =D



and once he's sealed??? can you still say he's above kage level???
if it wasn't for Sasuke, he would still be trapped inside Itachi's sealing sword.

He was never sealed in totsuka.. cause if he was he would still be.. that snake that escaped and later either died or escaped amaterasu was him..
If his soul was sealed his cursed seals would've been duds.
 

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I'm a big fan, but we can't gauge his strength due to the fact we've never seen what he's fully capable of. We'll have to wait for feats.
 

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Sigh...Bringing up seals with Orochimaru is silly since he has escaped Totsuka, and broke the Reaper Death Seal.

Itachi was wary of Jiraiya, and Pein claimed that in a fair fight he would have lost, yet Orochimaru beat Jiraiya.

Orochimaru fought two sannin and the four tailed Naruto without his arms and most of his jutsu.

Now all that aside, let's look at his CURRENT power. Now he has his soul arms back and a fresh body. He is not fighting with a percentage of his power as he was in all the past fights. He's got Wood Release, the ability to suck chakra from others, and transform into them. With the Senju DNA his chakra reserves have greatly amplified which means that he can now use Sage Mode.

This guy is stronger than a kage now for sure except Hashirama. Definitely top ten due to a combination of power and intellect.
 

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Sigh...Bringing up seals with Orochimaru is silly since he has escaped Totsuka, and broke the Reaper Death Seal.

Itachi was wary of Jiraiya, and Pein claimed that in a fair fight he would have lost, yet Orochimaru beat Jiraiya.

Orochimaru fought two sannin and the four tailed Naruto without his arms and most of his jutsu.

Now all that aside, let's look at his CURRENT power. Now he has his soul arms back and a fresh body. He is not fighting with a percentage of his power as he was in all the past fights. He's got Wood Release, the ability to suck chakra from others, and transform into them. With the Senju DNA his chakra reserves have greatly amplified which means that he can now use Sage Mode.

This guy is stronger than a kage now for sure except Hashirama. Definitely top ten due to a combination of power and intellect.

*High possibility that he has Mokuton. Its not certain until its shown.
 

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I think we can agree that Oro is stronger than Kakashi without E.T. and considering Kakashi is High Anbu/ low Kage level one could safely assume that Oro is around Mid Kage level for sure.
 
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