Raikage can't dodge Kamui

[Blade21]

Seems like no one has countered by previous post properly. Looks like I win this one. :y

sure as soon as u prove he will feel the distortion...but since u havent:ice:

 

[TenTen Fanbase]

Deidara doged it.

A is way faster.

 

[Prince Charles]

Cuz Kakashi didn't mastered the jutsu at that time? He said it himself:

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How? Is he a sensor ninja now?

being a sensor ninja has nothing to do with noticing a distortion on you. its about FEELING IT.

diedara isnt a sensor ninja yet he noticed kakashis kamui distortion because he felt it.

 

[Bogard]

Deidara doged it.

A is way faster.

*sigh* Again, Deidara never dodge it. Kakashi is the one who missed since he couldn't control his jutsu well at that time

 

[Gèckö]

oh yes i can

 

[Ssoul Eater]

You are saying kamui is pretty much unpredictable & that raikage wouldn't be to sense it. But do you think Kakashi can keep up with raikage in speed & reflexes. For him to actually catch raikage in a place where he can kamui him is rather difficult. Which is why raikage can apparently dodge it.

 

[SuperFlyzzED]

No way.. Don't compare Kamui to Amaterasu, because it lacks speed.

 

[Bogard]

No way.. Don't compare Kamui to Amaterasu, because it lacks speed.

You mean that Amaterasu is much more slower than kamui? Then i agree with u

 

[Prince Charles]

You are saying kamui is pretty much unpredictable & that raikage wouldn't be to sense it. But do you think Kakashi can keep up with raikage in speed & reflexes. For him to actually catch raikage in a place where he can kamui him is rather difficult. Which is why raikage can apparently dodge it.

ppl seem to be missing the point here.

minato is the only person known to have escaped a space time distortion because he had another s/t.

raikage being able to escape is a 50/50 chance here

 

[FizzyDrink]

I see some people saying that cuz 4th Raikage(A) is fast he could dodge kamui easily, but what you forget is that to dodge something, you must be able to see it before. He saw black flames coming and it's how he was able to dodge it, but how can he see Kamui?

The space time distortion created by kamui is nearly invisible(int he contrary of flames which are black and bigger), and it's even instant. If you notice, neither Tobi notice it here:

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Nor even Pain. He didn't notice Kakashi had create a barrier small enough to send the nail into another dimension.

Notice that Tobi has even Sharingan and the black hole sphere was created just infront of him(to send rasengan into another dimension), but he saw nothing

That means what is even crazy with this jutsu it's that it's nearly invisible except when Kakashi wants to create a huge space time barrier obviously like when he wanted to cut Gedo Mazos help for example.

So if Raikage can't even see the black hole sphere created by Kamui, how can he dodge it?:shrug:

You're actually kinda wrong from the beginning. A never saw the flames of Amaterasu coming at him. They appear on the target, there is no travelling involved. He never dodged them. He was just moving fast already to begin with; too fast for Sasuke to focus on. If he is moving that fast to begin with against Kakashi, Kakashi won't be able to focus on him and would miss with Kamui. Now, if the Raikage starts out stationary, and Kakashi kamui's him before he starts moving, then yes. But if he has started moving, Kakashi's kamui will fail like Sasuke's amaterasu failed.

 

[Prime Rib]

he cant doge it but his str can break it

 

[narutokage99]

I have also said this in versus thread, i' would add something important too about kamui.
Once the almost invisible space barrier is on the target it's unstopable according to the databook " no defense is possible".We can see it when the space barreir was on deidara he was not able to dodge left ,right,up,down,non linear or any trajectory to go off from the space barrier .

Kishi made a crazy technique with kamui...

 

[Dantee]

The same way he dodged Amaterasu is the same way he avoids Kamui....Raikage never saw the flames. :sy:

 

[Pyrobob4]

he cant doge it but his str can break it

This doesn't even deserve being replied to. So I'm replying to it to say so.

OT, How in the hell could he sense it being used on him? What proof is there that such a feat is even possible? Has anyone ever been shown to be able to sense Kamui based on distortions in... whatever it is you're claiming? MAYBE, MAYBE he would be able to sense it if the air was distorted before the effect actually occurred. But even then, Kamui is a nearly instantaneous attack. The only reason it might not seem like such is because, in the manga or anime, they show us a warping effect so we can know whats going on (and where). It's not as if it takes a few seconds for the ability to charge up, and then teleport things away. If that was true, he never would have been able to send his kunai away, or even Narutos rasengan, for that matter. So, since we know he can hit moving targets, the ability must be virtually instantaneous, once activated.

Now, I understand that the Third Raikage is a hell of a lot faster than a kunai, but if Kakashi was able to focus on him for even a second, its safe to say he could cast Kamui on him. It's not as if Kakashi couldn't figure out a way to slow him down... C'mon.

Kamui has been nerfed by plot no jutsu all along. If Kakashi was the type of person, he could enter nearly any battle, use Kamui on the opponents neck, and the fight would be over. But so far: he either didn't have the tech perfected enough, in the case of Deidara; or was up against enemies of which removing a small part of their bodies would only slow them down (Pains paths, edo summons).

Kamui really is OP, we just haven't really gotten a chance to experience such. Normal people don't stand a chance, and even someone like Raikage only has a slim chance if we are to assume there are some sort of vibrations in the air before the tech is activated. Which seems like a bold assumption, to me.