[Question] Quincy Arc = FMA B ?

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Overall the way story is going it looks like Yhwach is turning out to be Father and homunculus are the sternritters .

As the story progresses i see more similarities creeping up Yhwach has now obtained power of God soon his powers will become unstable by some old Quincy technique Ishida will use . As long as his sternritter doesn't die he will become younger and soon turn into the stage were he will be unable to hear or speak .

Jugram = Pride (Sad back story and loyal right man to the Villain)

Greed = Bazz B (Turning against his master )


So do you think Kubo got inspired by Arkawa's Promise day Arc or is it mere coincidence ?
 
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Overall the way story is going it looks like Yhwach is turning out to be Father and homunculus are the sternritters .

As the story progresses i see more similarities creeping up Yhwach has now obtained power of God soon his powers will become unstable by some old Quincy technique Ishida will use . As long as his sternritter doesn't die he will become younger and soon turn into the stage were he be will unable to hear or speak .

Jugram = Pride (Sad back story and loyal right man to the Villain)

Greed = Bazz B (Turning against his master )


So do you think Kubo got inspired by Arkawa's Promise day Arc or is it mere coincidence ?
we haven't even heard jugrams full back story so the only thing sad so far is that he couldn't gather reishi. pride also didn't have a sad backstory none of the homunculi did so.

also bazz was never loyal to ywach and never saw him as his master. him joining was just a means of getting closer to ywach.

i honestly don't see any similarities between what father did and what ywach is doing or bleach and FMA. the only thing thats comparable is their nazi style armies
 

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we haven't even heard jugrams full back story so the only thing sad so far is that he couldn't gather reishi. pride also didn't have a sad backstory none of the homunculi did so.

also bazz was never loyal to ywach and never saw him as his master. him joining was just a means of getting closer to ywach.

i honestly don't see any similarities between what father did and what ywach is doing or bleach and FMA. the only thing thats comparable is their nazi style armies
What i see similarity between father and Yhwach is they need source of power to stay alive . Father depends upon Philiospher stone where as yhwach needs someone to die so alternate thing for them is to obtain power of God .

Honestly if we look at motives of both of them they desire power fear mortal death . As for the sternritters we got to know from flashback they were traditional Quincy warrior who later became war mind machines it clearly related to philosopher stone experiment Father used to create homunculli . Usually Seven deadly sins matches the alphabets because all the warriors are connected to him his personality inhibits in them and gave his powers to his soldiers!

I suggest you read the alphabets Yhwach created very carefully he possess all the quincy just like a puppet .

Pride had a sad story he never experienced love from a family this is what we see from Jugo . Jugram treats Bazz B as one of his family because he never shared unique friendship .
 
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D.Gray-Man a lot of similarities to FMA brotherhood
However its ongoing while FMA has 62ish episodes
Ok i will try it . Thnx !! If we look at it FMA brotherhood was a trendsetting manga and inspired many mangaka to look western for ideas . Arakawa's German theme inspired Kubo to draw the villain's background in a very same manner !
 
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Ok i will try it . Thnx !! If we look at it FMA brotherhood was a trendsetting manga and inspired many mangaka to look western for ideas . Arakawa's German theme inspired Kubo to draw the villain's background in a very same manner !
Yeah I agree FMA was gr8. Ya check it out it starts out slow but you will notice some similarities
 

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I doubt it as Kubo has been planning this arc for a really long time. I don't know if it has ever been confirmed, but I think there is little doubt now that it's based on Nazi-Germany. Someone once said that the guard of Ichigo's original bankai, which was shaped like a Swastika, was an early hint of his Quincy legacy. I was very reluctant to accept that as the Swastika is a holy symbol in several eastern cultures, so it shouldn't by default mean that its a Nazi sign. However it can't be denied that Yhwach's sword has a guard shaped like an eagle and the eagle and the Swastika are the two main symbols of Nazi-Germany.

So assuming that Ichigo's sword was a hint towards his Quincy-legacy, then Kubo already had very early in the story the idea for this arc and Bleach and FMA were released in the same year, making the idea that Kubo got his inspiration from FMA unlikely.

Not sure what FMA is but it seems as though there coping Bleach.
Highly difficult for a series that ended in 2010.
 
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I don't know when FMB was published.

Kubo said he started planing this arc during Arrancar arc. First hint we have about this arc comes from interaction between Ichigo and Hichigo, when latter said that he is "Zangetsu".
 

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I doubt it as Kubo has been planning this arc for a really long time. I don't know if it has ever been confirmed, but I think there is little doubt now that it's based on Nazi-Germany. Someone once said that the guard of Ichigo's original bankai, which was shaped like a Swastika, was an early hint of his Quincy legacy. I was very reluctant to accept that as the Swastika is a holy symbol in several eastern cultures, so it shouldn't by default mean that its a Nazi sign. However it can't be denied that Yhwach's sword has a guard shaped like an eagle and the eagle and the Swastika are the two main symbols of Nazi-Germany.

So assuming that Ichigo's sword was a hint towards his Quincy-legacy, then Kubo already had very early in the story the idea for this arc and Bleach and FMA were released in the same year, making the idea that Kubo got his inspiration from FMA unlikely.


Highly difficult for a series that ended in 2010.
I doubt that Ichigo's Fake blade's symbol was the Nazi one, it didn't face the right direction nor was it slanted.

Kubo planned this arc ages and ages ago, from the moment the real Zangetsu (known as the hollow) said 'I am Zangetsu.'

He was forced to make the Aizen arc longer which mucked up some things, and he has been forced to make the current one shorter too, sucks to be him.

Fullmetal Alchemist was published in 2001, Bleach's is confusing, it was supposed to be published in 2001, yet the very first volume ever published was in 2002. :dunno:


I don't know when FMB was published.

Kubo said he started planing this arc during Arrancar arc. First hint we have about this arc comes from interaction between Ichigo and Hichigo, when latter said that he is "Zangetsu".
2001.
 

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I doubt that Ichigo's Fake blade's symbol was the Nazi one, it didn't face the right direction nor was it slanted.

Kubo planned this arc ages and ages ago, from the moment the real Zangetsu (known as the hollow) said 'I am Zangetsu.'

He was forced to make the Aizen arc longer which mucked up some things, and he has been forced to make the current one shorter too, sucks to be him.

Fullmetal Alchemist was published in 2001, Bleach's is confusing, it was supposed to be published in 2001, yet the very first volume ever published was in 2002. :dunno:




2001.
It always faces the right direction considering you can view it from two sides. One side will always follow the direction of the Swastika, while the other side will follow the opposite direction and it was pretty slanted.

Also don't forget that when Ichigo did his first Banka training with Kisuke, the hollow wasn't involved, which makes it possible that the guard of Ichigo's bankai comes from fake Zangetsu.
 

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It always faces the right direction considering you can view it from two sides. One side will always follow the direction of the Swastika, while the other side will follow the opposite direction and it was pretty slanted.

Also don't forget that when Ichigo did his first Banka training with Kisuke, the hollow wasn't involved, which makes it possible that the guard of Ichigo's bankai comes from fake Zangetsu.

Ichigo's sword was counter-clock-wise, and wasn't slanted 90 degrees like a Nazi symbol.
Still, you have a point.
 

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Ichigo's sword was counter-clock-wise, and wasn't slanted 90 degrees like a Nazi symbol.
Still, you have a point.
Again it's both clockwise as counterclockwise. Imagine a transparent clock. If you look at it from the normal side it goes clockwise, now if you flip the clock over and it is going counterclockwise. Same thing with the guard.

And it's slanted, the only main difference is that with his original bankai his guard seems to more rectangular rather than a square and that the hooks are thinner, but in the end the shape comes pretty much down to the same thing.
 
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