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Where exactly do his Goudama come from? Are they like, a product of Ashura's path or what?
 

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Do you mean the truthseeker balls?
Probably becuz of strong chakra
 

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Do you mean the truthseeker balls?
Probably becuz of strong chakra
Yeah. He has Rikudo (Hagoromo's) chakra, all of the taild beast's chakra and by extension all 8 chakra releases. The TSO are a combination of all 8 utilizing strong chakra--which Naruto then had.
 

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the truth seeker balls are a manifestation of yin/yang chakra. so since only the rikudo sennin, the one person that is able to use all elements of chakra and the multiple forms of chakra from all nine jinchuuriki can control them.
 

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That's all very nice but how exactly did Naruto obtain them? They're a combo of all chakra natures right? They just appeared when he got back from Hagoromo. You can't say it's from the Bijuu since he was using all of their chakra before then. What allowed him to obtain them? Was it Ashura's path? Also, if all you needed was all 8 chakra elements then why didn't Sasuke or Nagato have any goudama? The Rinnegan gives the user control over all 8 chakra elements, does it not? Another reason why I'm confused.
 
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That's an outcome of Six Paths Senjutsu and using all tailed beasts chakra.
 

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That's an outcome of Six Paths Senjutsu and using all tailed beasts chakra.
Okay, so if Naruto were to use RSM without all of the Bijuus' chakra would he still have them? And Naruto's Yin Kurama avatar when he fought Sasuke, how come it looked like that? Didn't Sasuke take Yang Kurama?
 
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That's all very nice but how exactly did Naruto obtain them? They're a combo of all chakra natures right? They just appeared when he got back from Hagoromo. You can't say it's from the Bijuu since he was using all of their chakra before then. What allowed him to obtain them? Was it Ashura's path? Also, if all you needed was all 8 chakra elements then why didn't Sasuke or Nagato have any goudama? The Rinnegan gives the user control over all 8 chakra elements, does it not? Another reason why I'm confused.

Naruto obtained them by using all tailed beasts chakra in RSM.

Yes, they are a combo of all 5 chakra natures and Yin Yang release.

No, Naruto wasn't using all tailed beasts chakra before Hagoromo. He got 1 & 8 Tails as well as the other half of Kurama when Obito gave all that to him just when he met the Sage.

Sasuke and Nagato can use all 5 chakra natures independently and individually but they can't combine them like Naruto and tailed beasts chakra can do. When using all Tailed beasts chakra combined, the resulting mixture is the combination of all chakra natures including Yin Yang release, even though each tailed beast might not independently have the respective chakra natures.
 

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if naruto wasnt using senjutsu plus the all the elements which he learned to do when he was able to mold all eight elements of chakra thru the bijuu chakra then he wouldnt have the truth seeker balls
 

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Naruto obtained them by using all tailed beasts chakra in RSM.

Yes, they are a combo of all 5 chakra natures and Yin Yang release.

No, Naruto wasn't using all tailed beasts chakra before Hagoromo. He got 1 & 8 Tails as well as the other half of Kurama when Obito gave all that to him just when he met the Sage.

Sasuke and Nagato can use all 5 chakra natures independently and individually but they can't combine them like Naruto and tailed beasts chakra can do. When using all Tailed beasts chakra combined, the resulting mixture is the combination of all chakra natures including Yin Yang release, even though each tailed beast might not independently have the respective chakra natures.
Oh, sorry. I'm pretty much a noob lol. I see, so all 9 Bijuu mixed + Senjutsu = goudama? You're right, he didn't have all 9 before then. Thanks, I understand now.
 

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Okay, so if Naruto were to use RSM without all of the Bijuus' chakra would he still have them? And Naruto's Yin Kurama avatar when he fought Sasuke, how come it looked like that? Didn't Sasuke take Yang Kurama?

I can tell from your reply to my other post that you understand how Godoudamas are manifested, but I'll still take my time to explain this particular question.

No, if Naruto used RSM without 9 Bijuus chakra, he won't have them. Here he uses RSM without drawing in chakra from 9 Bijuus, and he doesn't have Godoudamas.

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But after he draws 9 Bijuus chakra, he manifest Godoudamas.

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It's stated in Databook IIRC that the Truth Seekers and the ability to fly Naruto had came from Six Paths Sage Mode.

But there is a Difference.

Six Paths Cahkra =/= Six Paths Sage Mode.

Six Paths Sage Mode is a Ninjutsu. Were as Six Paths Cahkra is another Energy source that's different.

-Regular Chakra
-Natural Energy
-Six Paths Chakra
 

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Honestly any answer you get is an arbitrary assumption.
 
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