[Question] WTF is going on with RDS?

[FearxDeath]

Correction Added.

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We see Orochimaru undoing the RDS seal and afterwards we see 5 souls come out. One for each of the Hokage (Tobirama, Hashirama, Sarutobi and Minato) and the 5th being Orochimaru's hands.

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Why in the world were there only 5 souls sealed in there, I mean Kishi could have had it release more souls and left it to the community to speculate who the other souls could be but instead we only see 5 coming out? Why is that?

And does this or does this not invoke the infamous plot no jutsu, as in, doesnt it sort of break the plot if only 5 souls are released. Is it really believable that no one was ever sealed away inbetween or prior to the 5 we see being released.

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The original question has already been changed to reflect this correction but I think people should know that I did originally make a mistake thinking that the RDS was used to seal the kyubi into Naruto.

Upon looking at the scans I believe I was wrong, it was actually the 8 triagrams seal that was used to seal Naruto and not the RDS and it was infact that 8 triagrams seal that seemed to have been passed down from the SO6P. Thanks to Jmannn for pointing this out to me!!! Although I do not believe that Minato developed the seal.

1-It was never stated that it was a S6P jutsu;
2-It was hinted it was developed by the Uzumakis;
3-Kurama seal is a 8 Tigrams Seal, developed by Minato using previous Uzumaki seals*
4-When Oro picks the mask, we see various other similar masks at the Uzumaki village, hinting that are a lot more Shinigamis, with different souls consumed. The one used just got thoses souls probably.

But even at that it still stands that someone else other than the 5 souls we see to have come out of the RDS had to have been sealed in there. I find it hard to believe that no one else had ever been sealed within the RDS before, the Uzumaki had to test it on someone right? Else how did they know it worked? And due to the deadly nature of the jutsu (The fact that the caster dies and the person undoing the jutsu has to kill themselves) I doubt an Uzumaki undid the jutsu for the shiits and giggles.

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Proof that Minato used the 8 triagrams to seal Naruto

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Circumstantial proof that the 8 Trigrams seal is related to the SO6P

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Proof that the 8 Trigrams seal was used before Minato was old enough to know it, ergo, Kushina had the seal since she was a kid and we see the 8TS on her belly as she is giving birth.

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The 8TS Seal was originally an Uzumaki Seal

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I cant for the life of me find the scan. I thought Kushina said something like "The seal on your chest was developed by our people" (Paraphrased) to Naruto during his fight with the Kyubi but perhaps that was in the Anime. Eitherway the swirl pattern of the seal and the fact that Minato learned most of, if not all of, his seals from kushina and by researching Uzumaki seals it is safe to say that it is an Uzumaki Originated Seal.

Not to mention that it was used on Kushina and thus could be inferred to have been used on Mito and therefore was likely to have been from the Uzumaki as Mito came from the Land of Swirls to Konoha and served as there Jinchuriki. With that I can say that although it is not directly said in the manga, or atleast i cannot find the scan that says it, we can assume that the 8TS is an Uzumaki seal.

 

[Draxus]

It was never stated that it was used to seal Kurama into any of the previous Jin's or that it was passed down from So6P

 

[Punk Hazard]

Because Oro chose to release those particular five.

 

[Rōshi1]

Here is my question..

Set Up
We see Orochimaru undoing the RDS seal and afterwards we see 5 souls come out. One for each of the Hokage (Tobirama, Hashirama, Sarutobi and Minato) and the 5th being Orochimaru's hands.

Question

I thought the RDS was a seal used by the Uzumaki and was also the seal used to seal other things, one of which I believe to be the 9tails into kushina and Mito although i could be wrong about this, and is also a seal that was passed down from the SO6P himself which makes it rather old. So the fact that it is still in use for all this times means, quite frankly, that it was being used.

So then why in the world were there only 5 souls sealed in there, I mean Kishi could have had it release more souls and left it to the community to speculate who the other souls could be but instead we only see 5 coming out? Why is that?

And does this or does this not invoke the infamous plot no jutsu, as in, doesnt it sort of break the plot if only 5 souls are released. Is it really believable that no one was ever sealed away inbetween or prior to the 5 we see being released.

Well if I remember correctly, Minato was the creator of the jutsu. It was passed down to Hiruzen and probably to Orochimaru too. It makes since. The other things are confusing as how they were known like the masks and how to unseal the effects of the jutsu.

 

[JMannn]

1-It was never stated that it was a S6P jutsu;
2-It was hinted it was developed by the Uzumakis;
3-Kurama seal is a 8 Tigrams Seal, developed by Minato using previous Uzumaki seals (I think???);
4-When Oro picks the mask, we see various other similar masks at the Uzumaki village, hinting that are a lot more Shinigamis, with different souls consumed. The one used just got thoses souls probably.

 

[FreakensteinAG]

Well if I remember correctly, Minato was the creator of the jutsu. It was passed down to Hiruzen and probably to Orochimaru too. It makes since. The other things are confusing as how they were known like the masks and how to unseal the effects of the jutsu.

It seems a little premature to say Minato created it. Orochimaru had to go to great lengths to release the souls. He had to grab a specific mask and go deep into the Uchiha hideout where The Tablet lay in order to undergo the ritual. Perhaps Minato was the one in few generations to stumble upon or discover the technique that was actually very old.

 

[AlphaScythian]

It seems a little premature to say Minato created it. Orochimaru had to go to great lengths to release the souls. He had to grab a specific mask and go deep into the Uchiha hideout where The Tablet lay in order to undergo the ritual. Perhaps Minato was the one in few generations to stumble upon or discover the technique that was actually very old.

Ur sig looks like an answer to this thread XD

 

[Sageofthepath]

Actually shinigami mask might also be related to Juugo Clan as shinigami look pretty much like his berzerker form or like poeple using the curse mark

 

[FearxDeath]

1-It was never stated that it was a S6P jutsu;
2-It was hinted it was developed by the Uzumakis;
3-Kurama seal is a 8 Tigrams Seal, developed by Minato using previous Uzumaki seals (I think???);
4-When Oro picks the mask, we see various other similar masks at the Uzumaki village, hinting that are a lot more Shinigamis, with different souls consumed. The one used just got thoses souls probably.

Added your 3rd statement to the thread as you were correct in saying it was actually an 8 trigram seal.

 

[AfricanProdigy]

I think maybe Orochimaru could've somehow "chosen" which specific souls he wanted to take. But then again, I highly doubt this myself, as I wouldn't think you'd have control over the souls that come out of the Shinigami when you realease them, I would assume they'd all come out at once. That's the only answer I could really have to the problems with RDS other than plot-no-Jutsu XD. Interesting thread though, you made a nice observation.

 

[FearxDeath]

Thanks to everyone who enjoyed the theory/question ^__^

I think maybe Orochimaru could've somehow "chosen" which specific souls he wanted to take. But then again, I highly doubt this myself, as I wouldn't think you'd have control over the souls that come out of the Shinigami when you realease them, I would assume they'd all come out at once. That's the only answer I could really have to the problems with RDS other than plot-no-Jutsu XD. Interesting thread though, you made a nice observation.

Thanks alot man, glad you liked my theory , your answer is a good one and is actually one that I was thinking of too. But at the same time it feels a little weird to think that.

 

[AfricanProdigy]

Thanks to everyone who enjoyed the theory/question ^__^




Thanks alot man, glad you liked my theory , your answer is a good one and is actually one that I was thinking of too. But at the same time it feels a little weird to think that.

Only time will tell...and hopefully give us the answer ^_^