Question :The eyes > the tailbeasts

[Uchicha Macho]

Rinnegan
We know the original so6p able to control the tentailbeast and separate it power into 9 tailbeasts using the rinnegan.The tentail body was place in the moon.
Sharingan
-Sasuke was able to suppress the ninetail inside naruto body with ease during team 7 reunion with his base sharingan
-Madara was able to control the ninetail with his sharingan against hashirama
-Tobi was able to control the ninetail with his base sharingan against konoha

WE also know the rinnegan is the next evolutionary step after EMS

Question what is the different between controling a tailbeast in a host than a tailbeast in by itself?
I just know people undererating the eyes capabilities .Anyway i believe they can still control the tailbeast in the host if they wanted too

 

[-S-]

it is like casting a genjutsu on the tailed beast

 

[TrollingSage]

Rinnegan
We know the original so6p able to control the tentailbeast and separate it power into 9 tailbeasts using the rinnegan.The tentail body was place in the moon.
Sharingan
-Sasuke was able to suppress the ninetail inside naruto body with ease during team 7 reunion with his base sharingan
-Madara was able to control the ninetail with his sharingan against hashirama
-Tobi was able to control the ninetail with his base sharingan against konoha



Question what is the different between controling a tailbeast in a host than a tailbeast in by itself?
I just know people undererating the eyes capabilities .Anyway i believe they can still control the tailbeast in the host if they wanted too

The difference is the seal. If Tobi could control the kyubi inside Kushina he wouldnt have to wait all those years for someone to knock Kushina up before he made his move.

 

[Uchicha Macho]

The difference is the seal. If Tobi could control the kyubi inside Kushina he wouldnt have to wait all those years for someone to knock Kushina up before he made his move.

since you put it that way,this mean since killerbee and naruto seal is unlock then a uchiha user can easy rip out the ninetail from the host or control the host just like madara control the mizukage (3rd i think) tailbeast host when kisame was talking to him?

 

[Baka Sennin]

no, naruto's seal still isn't unlocked on the outside, only in his mind. the kyuubi could probably bust out if he wanted to, but i think physically tobi still has to undo the seal.

 

[Beastbomb]

Also genjutsu won't work on a perfect host so they can't just rip it out of those two (Bee and Naruto)

 

[kevenc]

Jinchuuriki > Uchiha's eyes

 

[Uchicha Macho]

no, naruto's seal still isn't unlocked on the outside, only in his mind. the kyuubi could probably bust out if he wanted to, but i think physically tobi still has to undo the seal.

The ninetail is out of the gate.Naruto unseal it ,therefore the ninetail can take over naruto body if he want to or leave his body.The ninetail is vulnerable to the control of the sharingan /rinnegan .Therefore anytime edo madara can summon it outside of naruto or tobi can extract it

 

[Bluedevil]

The difference is the seal. If Tobi could control the kyubi inside Kushina he wouldnt have to wait all those years for someone to knock Kushina up before he made his move.

agreed. The seal is made with someone else's jitsu and it becomes permeability bound to the individual. The eye techniques are a type of genjitsu and as long as you have chakara to suppress the beast's mind then you have it w/o binding it to your body.

 

[Uchicha Macho]

As i said before,madara was able to control the mizukage (tailbeast host) when kisame betray his people.

 

[Ryuu..]

We need to know how Yagura was being controlled....

 

[home]

No

 

[nagato2]

Rinnegan
We know the original so6p able to control the tentailbeast and separate it power into 9 tailbeasts using the rinnegan.The tentail body was place in the moon.
Sharingan
-Sasuke was able to suppress the ninetail inside naruto body with ease during team 7 reunion with his base sharingan
-Madara was able to control the ninetail with his sharingan against hashirama
-Tobi was able to control the ninetail with his base sharingan against konoha

WE also know the rinnegan is the next evolutionary step after EMS

Question what is the different between controling a tailbeast in a host than a tailbeast in by itself?
I just know people undererating the eyes capabilities .Anyway i believe they can still control the tailbeast in the host if they wanted too

did i miss something in the manga, what makes yu think that so6p was able to control the tailed beasts with the rinnegan? also it requires both senju and uchiha dna to use the creation of all things.

to answer your question the difference is that first you dont gain chakra yet lose it, im quite sure it requires chakra to control a bijuu. also no i dont think u can control a bijuu in a host because if that wasthe case than why did tobi have to wait to extract kurama.

 

[nagato2]

As i said before,madara was able to control the mizukage (tailbeast host) when kisame betray his people.

tobi was able to control yagura. but yeah we still dont know how or even the yonbi's relationship with yagura.

 

[Sayburwulf]

For one, I highly doubt naruto will ever lose the ninetails. If he would then what was the point of The gold and silver brothers? and im pretty sure it was stated somewhere in the manga that a perfect host cant be controlled by genjutsu because the beast and host can knock each other out of it. Id have to go back and check though.

 

[Uchicha Macho]

You guys trying to make a plot sheild for naruto.He will get extracted soon that the solution.Tobi or madara or sasuke will show us how.The tentail will be reveal again.

 

[ClashinDevestation]

well you stated in the begining that the so6p controlled them with his eyes... and when sasuke supressed the ninetails inside naruto using the sharingan.. that is your answer U_U

 

[NotAUchihaFan]

You cant control the bijuu that is in complete harmony with his jinchuriki. To control it you have to cast a genjutsu over it, but the host can "wake him up" from it. Thats why naruto and killer bee can't be affected by sharingan's genjutsu.

But, supressing the chakra is different, you need special powers, rare even among the uchiha, or thats what i heard. I know that madara, itachi and sasuke are capable of it. But i dont know how would affect the new status between kurama and naruto. The only senju capable was hashirama, cause of his special chakra. When madara tried to summon the kyuubi he couldn't because it was inside naruto. And when sasuke supressed the kyubi's power (that was trying taking over naruto) he still was not the "perfect" jinchuriki.

Of course we still dont know, how this will affect Naruto on bijuu mode.
But for sure none of them will be able to summon the kyubi

 

[Uchicha Macho]

For one, I highly doubt naruto will ever lose the ninetails. If he would then what was the point of The gold and silver brothers? and im pretty sure it was stated somewhere in the manga that a perfect host cant be controlled by genjutsu because the beast and host can knock each other out of it. Id have to go back and check though.

the tentail is the body.The nine tailbeast are soul or chakra separated from the tentail.Tobi will need the other 2 tailbeast.The gold and silver brother are not tailbeast,so they cannot fit in to the ten tail form.Why the hell tobi will waste his time to capture them ? When sasuke use genjutsu ZETSU it said tobi wanted the 8 tail and ninetail.

 

[SixtyNyne]

Umm, this may be completely off topic but your sig looks like rape.