Question How could madara use susanno without eyes?

[EliteKage]

Alright correct me if I'm wrong but everytime a uchiha uses susanoo it strains their eyes.
So what was straining madara when he was using his?

 

[Romy9]

This is a second thread about this today. You gotta scroll a bit down, man.

 

[hixa kuogame]

Susano'o doesn't strain your eyes, it strains the body. Eyes aren't neccessarily required for susano'o. Itachi used susano'o while blind.
Susano'o doesn't come from the eyes, everytime it's evoked it's emitted from the users body.

 

[EliteKage]

Susano'o doesn't strain your eyes, it strains the body. Eyes aren't neccessarily required for susano'o. Itachi used susano'o while blind.
Susano'o doesn't come from the eyes, everytime it's evoked it's emitted from the users body.

Alright so remember that time when sasuke used his susanoo and his eyes were bleeding? Was that from his susanoo or something else I haven't read it in a while

 

[Tobi98]

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The chakra comes from the brain and then goes to the eyes, his eyes got destroyed but the brain could still release chakra

 

[Corgi]

Susano'o doesn't strain the eyes, it strains the body.

 

[Umari Senju]

Alright so remember that time when sasuke used his susanoo and his eyes were bleeding? Was that from his susanoo or something else I haven't read it in a while

This is a good point. He hadn't used Amateratsu yet. Was it just because he had them activated and that still causes the drain?

 

[EliteKage]

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The chakra comes from the brain and then goes to the eyes, when his eyes got destroyed he had already released the chakra from the brain so he could still use susanoo

I am really confused with that manga thing you linked. Doesn't that mean its linked to the optic nerve then which he did not have? correct me if I'm wrong

 

[VongolaX]

Chakra is the manifestation of chakra, not your eyes.

Susanoo doesn't pour out from your eyes, it comes out from the brain.

Sharingan is just a reflection of chakra that is being broadcast up the optic nerve into the brain.

You can still use some ocular powers without your eyes, as long as you have the chakra for it.

 

[Indora]

Alright correct me if I'm wrong but everytime a uchiha uses susanoo it strains their eyes.
So what was straining madara when he was using his?

Madara is hax that is why he can use susano'o without eyes

 

[EliteKage]

Chakra is the manifestation of chakra, not your eyes.

Susanoo doesn't pour out from your eyes, it comes out from the brain.

Sharingan is just a reflection of chakra that is being broadcast up the optic nerve into the brain.

You can still use some ocular powers without your eyes, as long as you have the chakra for it.

Do you have any proof of this?
Also why are the uchiha worried about becoming blind or loseing their eyesight then. Like even one of danzos technique required sacrificing a sharingan to use so I'm pretty sharingan is pretty important

 

[Tobi98]

I am really confused with that manga thing you linked. Doesn't that mean its linked to the optic nerve then which he did not have? correct me if I'm wrong

The chakra is released from the brain, there weren't any eyes to change form but the chakra was still inside him

 

[the unforgiven]

simple because he is Uchiha Madara

 

[EliteKage]

The chakra is released from the brain, there weren't any eyes to change form but the chakra was still inside him

So are you saying the eyes and chakra have nothing to do with each other in this case?

 

[Tobi98]

So are you saying the eyes and chakra have nothing to do with each other in this case?

When it comes to susanoo, no, Ama and Tsuki yes cuz you need the chakra to go to the eyes to use them

 

[VongolaX]

Do you have any proof of this?
Also why are the uchiha worried about becoming blind or loseing their eyesight then. Like even one of danzos technique required sacrificing a sharingan to use so I'm pretty sharingan is pretty important

Yes..

Lastest chapter page 4 (what Obito told Rin)
Manga stream translation

Madara himself is an example

In order for you to use an uchiha kinjustu, you'll need full kekkai genkai.

You can use some uchiha powers without your eyes.

Stuff like genjustu, ms technique, and Uchih kin you can't use without the eyes.

Substitute everything that says eyes with chakra.

 

[VongolaX]

So are you saying the eyes and chakra have nothing to do with each other in this case?

Only when using full power they do, otherwise they are not 100% needed.

 

[EliteKage]

Only when using full power they do, otherwise they are not 100% needed.

Alright and you need to have uchiha blood to use these techniques of course then right? Or else the sharingan wouldn't be needed for some of the ones as you said.

 

[VongolaX]

Alright and you need to have uchiha blood to use these techniques of course then right? Or else the sharingan wouldn't be needed for some of the ones as you said.

Somewhat...

Uchiha kekkai genkai

When you say uchiha blood, it's more like Uchiha chakra.

Blood is just another way of imply chakra.

Like Kabuto using blood transfusion to get Orochimaru's chakra.

A good example is Itachi sealing his chakra into Sasuke's left eye.

Sasuke didn't have MS at the time, but when itachi's trigger activated...

His three tomoe turned into Itachi's MS and sprouted Amatersu.

Same concept applies with Kakashi and Obito now.

Nagato and all his dead corpse getting rinnegans

I hope this helps^^

 

[maggioso]

Madara is OP, which would be why he can use Susanoo without eyes.