[Question] About Sasuke S/T technique

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What does time limit have to do with teleporting? We're talking instant movement here, time is not a factor. So you're submitting he has two S/T jutsu's one where has to swap places with something with a limited range AND another where he can teleport anywhere in an even more limited range? Sorry but nothing in the manga suggests a 2nd jutsu.

Given his S/T technique....time is indeed a factor when Sasuke is done teleporting since he would still move at a normal speed after this and he can't get all the up where Obito and Sakura are with one single S/T technique do to its short range.

There was plenty of debris on the battlefield for sasuke to use, no need to say it was air. Ultimately though, the burden of proof is on you, not me. It's stated in the manga that he does need to swap with something. There was plenty of debris on the battlefield for sasuke to use. Can you show me where he actually teleported (not shunshin) and didn't swap with something? Cuz the 4 examples you used don't prove that at all.

Like I said before...Sasuke didn't put the absolute rule on swapping place with objects on his S/T techniques...that still opens a widow for other possibilities.

You're assuming things since you don't have a clear proven for any of my examples.​
 

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You're amusing things since you don't have a clear proven for any my examples.​

Uhm... You still haven't given any actual examples! None of those instances indicated he DIDN'T swap with anything.

And this "it's not an absolute rule" crap makes no sense. What exactly dictates if it's a regular or an absolute rule?
 

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Even after Sasuke said what he is doing, you guys are still have problem accepting what he has:

1 - Against Madara, Sasuke swap place with his sword. Notice that Madara was trying to attack Sasuke, and Sasuke's sword was in some different place. So if you go back one page, you will see that Madara was attacking Sasuke to take his eye.

2 - Against Kaguya, Sasuke never swap anything. Both Sasuke and Naruto simply attacked Kaguya after Naruto used sexy jutsu and punched her. You can even see that Naruto himself did a quick movement.

Nope. Nothing was in between them, and then Kaguya suddenly appeared. Naruto didn't just fly behind her.
 

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Uhm... You still haven't given any actual examples! None of those instances indicated he DIDN'T swap with anything.

Except you don't have a prove he didn't.​

And this "it's not an absolute rule" crap makes no sense. What exactly dictates if it's a regular or an absolute rule?

With the choice of his words.

Do I need to spell this out for you?​
 

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Except you don't have a prove he didn't.​

Again burden of proof is on you not me. I don't have to prove it. My position is clearly stated in the manga. How is it reasonable to think Sasuke is hiding something about his s/t technique?

With the choice of his words.

Do I need to spell this out for you?​

Yes! it's a term you made up, so I don't know how you define an absolute rule as opposed to a regular rule. As far as I know, if a character states how their jutsu works, that's how it works. Also his word choice is made by fan subs, so I always take that with a grain of salt.
 
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Again burden of proof is on you not me. I don't have to prove it. My position is clearly stated in the manga.

How so? I mean i actually don't have to prove anything since the manga clearly didn't show with anything he swap places with, while you on the other have to prove what he swapped places with.

I get this is hard for you to understand?​

Yes! it's a term you made up, so I don't know how you define an absolute rule as opposed to a regular rule. As far as I know, if a character states how their jutsu works, that's how it works.

I didn't made up anything and i am not a hundred percent on Sasuke having a technique like his S/T technique....i only gave a thought to other possibilities since Sasuke's choice of words didn't seem like this was the only way his technique works.​
 

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How so? I mean i actually don't have to prove anything since the manga clearly didn't show with anything he swap places with, while you on the other have to prove what he swapped places with.

I get this is hard for you to understand?​



I didn't made up anything and i am not a hundred percent on Sasuke having a technique like his S/T technique....i only gave a thought to other possibilities since Sasuke's choice of words didn't seem like this was the only way his technique works.​

Well I can't continue to debate with someone he doesn't understand the basics of how an argument works. You later point again has no real substance just "fellings". I think this convo has run it's course.

Have a good 1
 

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So from , it was proven that Sasuke's S/T technique swaps places with an object or something and it has a certain range. When Sasuke used his against Kagaya, what did he switch with? Also with . I assumed Madara's was just his limbo getting hit and then refusing with original, but I'm not sure anymore.


Inb4 misleading translation. There are panels in the manga those prove that Sasuke doesn't need an object to teleport.
 

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Well I can't continue to debate with someone he doesn't understand the basics of how an argument works. You later point again has no real substance just "fellings". I think this convo has run it's course.

Have a good 1

What ever you say bro.

It's not my problem you have a hard understanding even the most basic things.​
 

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Inb4 misleading translation. There are panels in the manga those prove that Sasuke doesn't need an object to teleport.

lol for panda and stream to be wrong.
 

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What ever you say bro.

It's not my problem you have a hard understanding even the most basic things.​

LOL!

Dude I was trying to be nice; and you're trying to take cheap shots at me to cover how terrible your arguments are. How about you defend your argument instead of just restating them like a broken record.

The manga didn't discretely show him replacing himself with things because Kishi was trying to keep us in the dark on how the jutsu worked. You seem to be under some strange delusion that Naruto is a self sustaining universe and doesn't operate on the whims of it's creator.

Basically your entire argument boils down to, "I think Sasuke's ability should be cool as I had imagined it to be in the previous chapters, so I reject what the author says so I can live blissfully in my ignorance".

Sorry to ruin your day, but if Kishi says he needs to swap places with something, he needs to swap places with something until otherwise stated in the manga.

See if you can understand that most basic of things.
 

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LOL!

Dude I was trying to be nice; and you're trying to take cheap shots at me to cover how terrible your arguments are. How about you defend your argument instead of just restating them like a broken record.

The manga didn't discretely show him replacing himself with things because Kishi was trying to keep us in the dark on how the jutsu worked. You seem to be under some strange delusion that Naruto is a self sustaining universe and doesn't operate on the whims of it's creator.

Basically your entire argument boils down to, "I think Sasuke's ability should be cool as I had imagined it to be in the previous chapters, so I reject what the author says so I can live blissfully in my ignorance".

Sorry to ruin your day, but if Kishi says he needs to swap places with something, he needs to swap places with something until otherwise stated in the manga.

See if you can understand that most basic of things.

This is amusing and ironic.

This shi_t is coming from the same guy who has no evidence for what Sasuke used to swap places with in my 4 examples, yet claims "I bet you can find something he could have swapped with"...you have only proved your lack of debating in all of your posts.

Stop wasting my time and be more knowledge of what you're debating over next time.​
 

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did he swap places with a hair on narutos ass?
 

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He blitzed Madara because he kept swaping with rocks on the way? Thats how he was so fast.. even Madara said that he was fast as hell :hyper:
he was shifting himself in Madara's direction.

Oh I see. Yeah that I think was Sasuke teleporting Kaguya between Naruto and himself. If you check the panel there was some debri inbetween them and Kaguya appears in its place.

It's not out of bounds to believe the ability only works on himself.
the debris was still there when Kaguya was seen in between her. I think it's more likely Sasuke shifted her there.
Against Madara he swapped with his sword.

I'm don't recall him using the technique against Kaguya. You're link shows him trapped in ice, which he used blaze release to get out of.
Sasuke didn't need to switch with his sword. He had Naruto come at him with his Rasengan and shifted Madara in between them. The 2 of them were literally still where they were at when he told Naruto to do so after their attempt.
 

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Maybe he can't teleport through dimensions like obito so swapped places with her jacket as an alternative...or maybe it just was easier I swap places with her jacket, it did seem to strain obito a hell of a lot & even required the assistance of Sakura (first post :))
 

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No I think he could have swapped with anything he didn't need that jacket. Im pretty sure he could have swapped with the damn sand.
 

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He swaps space. Space containing an object increases his range.
 

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He swaps space. Space containing an object increases his range.

According to takL interpretation :) you where wrong about the cool down when alot of people said that... so you might be wrong again.
And i was right about the cool down... at least i was half right if the object thing turns out to be something that helps the range :)

Its me Shin... :)
 
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