[Discussion] Que more Tobi angst please!

[valandil988]

Jeez, "Tobi" used to be a good villain before he started showing how butt hurt he is over BOTH Rin and Kakashi friend zoning him. God If I have to listen to another Rin reference I'm going to vomit. I don't feel anything towards this villain anymore; now I'm just waiting for Naruto to get his shit together to kill his ass.

God PLEASE I wish we could have a villian that is an honest to god ass-hole end of story. No sympathetic nature, one that we honestly feel uneasy over to actually read. Bleach does that why can't Naruto?? Bah I'm just ranting over how lame the war arc as gotten. Kishi has pretty much destroyed Tobi as a character, he used to have an edginess and an air of invincibility....Now not so much, hes vulnerable emotionally and physically now, we as the readers can get inside his head, that should never happen. Sure he is more powerful but it feels like superficial power to me.

HELLLOO the only one that could kill him before was kakashi because he had Kamui as well. Against everyone else apart from maybe Minato he was untouchable....literally. Now he gets caught off guard by the same damn attack that Minato used on him...talk about lame. Especially with Minato AND Tobirama both Hiraishin users he should have been on guard for such attacks, especially after the combination attack Naruto and Sasuke used, but nooo he wasn't, sooo dumb. Just fricken kamui randomly jeez then nobody will know when you are vulnerable.

Anyway rant over....

 

[Joon]

Your definition of villain sucks. >_> Rant was not necessary.

Edited: What I mean to say is that your moral and ethic views reflect what a villain is. I do not consider Obito a villain.

 

[valandil988]

Your definition of villain sucks. >_> Rant was not necessary.

I'm just sick of villiains turning out so butt hurt. If Obito is soooo past Rins death then don't fricken reference it every five seconds! Just get on with your shit and do the genjutsu jeez. In the recent manga he fails completely to make me worry in any way. He just seemed sooo weak as a villiain that I simply am not worried....at all. And that's not because of the plot powers of the main characters being unable to die lol.

 

[Joon]

I'm just sick of villiains turning out so butt hurt. If Obito is soooo past Rins death then don't fricken reference it every five seconds! Just get on with your shit and do the genjutsu jeez. In the recent manga he fails completely to make me worry in any way. He just seemed sooo weak as a villiain that I simply am not worried....at all. And that's not because of the plot powers of the main characters being unable to die lol.

It has every thing to do with Good Vs. Evil. You know the rest.... Obviously, Kishi is going for it. No plot twist or nothing. You just have to accept it.

As of Obito, Rin is what motivates him and what surface the idea for him to strive for the plan. Her death is the catalysis, or something like that.

 

[Aresfour]

i agree with you.. he's making it too personal, always thinking and bringing rin up.. like seriously, wtf is up with that.. he was a kid when he loved her... it was like puppy love. kishi sucks @ss

 

[valandil988]

It has every thing to do with Good Vs. Evil. You know the rest.... Obviously, Kishi is going for it. No plot twist or nothing. You just have to accept it.

As of Obito, Rin is what motivates him and what surface the idea for him to strive for the plan. Her death is the catalysis, or something like that.

Sigh, Its not good vs evil lol its good vs a less good. Jeez both are good in a way for certain perspectives thats what pisses me off.

And as for Obito's motivation, I'm sorry but wanting to destroy the world because your NOT girlfriend died? And that seems to be his only motivation as far as I can see it. He can dress it up in fancy lace and underwear with extenuating reasoning. Oh the Ninja world is bad it caused Rin's death, it turns everyone into trash blah blah blah. He's just butt hurt over Rin I mean really? And your automatic response is "Derp destroy the world!" I'm sorry but this fails on so many levels as a villain of any catagory. Even as a sympathetic villain I feel absolutely no sympathy, I just feel hate lol.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

I get what you're saying. Which is why I like Kakuzu and Orochimaru personality wise....though especially Orochimaru.



Kakuzu: Originally a noble shinobi...he was severely punished for failure, and ended up resenting his village. Turning rogue, Kakuzu lost faith in humanity, and only trusted money becoming a ruthless person. Villains like with a descent background.


Orochimaru: Whatever it took to amass power and knowledge...A REAL VILLAIN MINDSET!



With the recent happenings...I'm hoping for Madara to secretly have a destroy the world plot., and just be an evil person.

 

[Joon]

Sigh, Its not good vs evil lol its good vs a less good. Jeez both are good in a way for certain perspectives thats what pisses me off.

And as for Obito's motivation, I'm sorry but wanting to destroy the world because your NOT girlfriend died? And that seems to be his only motivation as far as I can see it. He can dress it up in fancy lace and underwear with extenuating reasoning. Oh the Ninja world is bad it caused Rin's death, it turns everyone into trash blah blah blah. He's just butt hurt over Rin I mean really? And your automatic response is "Derp destroy the world!" I'm sorry but this fails on so many levels as a villain of any catagory. Even as a sympathetic villain I feel absolutely no sympathy, I just feel hate lol.

xD. Right, how can I not know that.....It is not about Rin though. You gon hate him though. Really? Do not hate poor Obito. He just need some guidance.

 

[valandil988]

xD. Right, how can I not know that.....It is not about Rin though. You gon hate him though. Really? Do not hate poor Obito. He just need some guidance.

D: Yes I feel hate....or maybe its more apathy.....apathy is worse probably lol. I'm just sick of all this emo moaning. Act with a little ambition Obito. Rin should be the furthest thing from your mind right now. You have to focus on your plan....you know the plan your doing all this for?? Which if you listen of obito the real reason he is doing this has absolutely nothing to do with Rin. But we all know he is just bull-shiting and it has everything to do with Rin. Lol soo lame and soo selfish.

 

[BlacLord™]

He has a point, he can't even be classed as a true villain.

His personality has become very uninspiring and he's so dull and Rin-obsessed. Orochimaru definitely was more interesting for a villain.

 

[mikeeozua]

If we had a villain like you did in your description, then it would contradict many things that have been told through the series. Even Orochimaru of all people had something that tipped him over the edge.

 

[valandil988]

If we had a villain like you did in your description, then it would contradict many things that have been told through the series. Even Orochimaru of all people had something that tipped him over the edge.

I'm not saying we shouldn't have a tipping point, all I'm saying is that it shouldn't be brought up every five seconds by said villain. It makes him appear whiny and mentally weak as a villain. So he needs to constantly taunt Minato and Naruto referencing Rin every five secs, which is totally not effective btw? Or is it psyche himself up like some weak ass wannabe? A real Villain doesn't need to remind himself every five seconds why he is a villain, who is he trying to convince himself or us? Hes just weak minded, that's all I'm going to say.

 

[mikeeozua]

I'm not saying we shouldn't have a tipping point, all I'm saying is that it shouldn't be brought up every five seconds by said villain. It makes him appear whiny and mentally weak as a villain. So he needs to constantly taunt Minato and Naruto referencing Rin every five secs, which is totally not effective btw? Or is it psyche himself up like some weak ass wannabe? A real Villain doesn't need to remind himself every five seconds why he is a villain, who is he trying to convince himself or us? Hes just weak minded, that's all I'm going to say.

I agree with you on that, the references should really stop.

 

[H a n]

Hm...Obito would be the worst villian.

 

[XxLotusxX]

Are you trying to spell queue?