Q,UJ v.s EMP,SHIG

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My assumption was that since Question himself said his waves are in front ( in his move where he says Sorry Jake, you're on your own ) since his waves do not make the Antlion useless, they will not affect something coming out from behind him, as the antlion was.
 

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My assumption was that since Question himself said his waves are in front ( in his move where he says Sorry Jake, you're on your own ) since his waves do not make the Antlion useless, they will not affect something coming out from behind him, as the antlion was.

who knows i dont know how Q's jutsu works. but either way you put it i really dont care about this fight its between u guys but let me give my input on this situation.

1. Ur in my smoke so u couldnt see where he was anyways.
2. If what u say is correct, in order to do the jutsu

even if u could magically see him the this would be the path of ur jutsu unless u can just transport your chakra from where u are to behind him and attack so it would still disrupt.
Spikes, Q is here_____________________this is you
./././..|..............................................|

But that doesnt matter since u guys never cleared the smoke anyways, not to mention Q's jutsu is coming from above not straight at you anyways so u could never see his hand movements


Let me explain this a little better:
U can't see through the smoke... U can't see his hand movements as u stated and you cant see Q to throw a jutsu at him any way, now even if u shot it randomly the sound jutsu started before urs did and u said while he is making hand movements stating the jutsu already started, Q's jutsu would have hit you before ur spikes would have even formed
 
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who knows i dont know how Q's jutsu works. but either way you put it i really dont care about this fight its between u guys but let me give my input on this situation.

1. Ur in my smoke so u couldnt see where he was anyways.
2. If what u say is correct, in order to do the jutsu

even if u could magically see him the this would be the path of ur jutsu unless u can just transport your chakra from where u are to behind him and attack so it would still disrupt.
Spikes, Q is here_____________________this is you
./././..|..............................................|

But that doesnt matter since u guys never cleared the smoke anyways, not to mention Q's jutsu is coming from above not straight at you anyways so u could never see his hand movements
Technically the smoke won't stay thickened for more than two-three seconds, so that by the time he finishes his rumbling and moving his hands and stuff I can see his outline.

Furthermore, the fact that his technique causes waves enough to disrupt wind jutsu shows it can disperse simple smoke.

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In case you don't know, the way the spike jutsu works is that I flow my chakra into the ground after the handseals, and make the chakra travel to the point from where I want it to be released, thus making the spikes erupt from that point.
His Sound technique does not disrupt chakra itself, since if it does then the opponent will not be able to use any jutsu ( and I wouldn't have approved it lol ) so it cannot stop my chakra from flowing thru the ground.


I hope we can just continue the fight, because I know all of us are getting annoyed due to the constant arguments.
The only other way to settle this would be to call in Cali lol If you want that, I have no problem as well.
 

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Technically the smoke won't stay thickened for more than two-three seconds, so that by the time he finishes his rumbling and moving his hands and stuff I can see his outline.

Furthermore, the fact that his technique causes waves enough to disrupt wind jutsu shows it can disperse simple smoke.

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In case you don't know, the way the spike jutsu works is that I flow my chakra into the ground after the handseals, and make the chakra travel to the point from where I want it to be released, thus making the spikes erupt from that point.
His Sound technique does not disrupt chakra itself, since if it does then the opponent will not be able to use any jutsu ( and I wouldn't have approved it lol ) so it cannot stop my chakra from flowing thru the ground.


I hope we can just continue the fight, because I know all of us are getting annoyed due to the constant arguments.
The only other way to settle this would be to call in Cali lol If you want that, I have no problem as well.

Well in the shows ive seen its there for a hot minute but with that aside, Let me quote what you said


and see you making had motions, I realise there's a technique under way and before the sonic wave is shot forward

Now lets look at Q's jutsu

As their hands lower, the rumbling sound continues rapidly. The opponent begins to loose their sense of balance and concentration due to the sound wave tampering their brain and the earth rumbling like an earthquake


Now as u see if u see his hand movements his jutsu has already started meaning ur hand seals and getting ur hands to the ground its too late by then.

so now u guys are, 1. disoriented due to Q's jutsu, 2. Binded by my rat flesh and 3. unable to preform jutsu due to my rat hole. Now if u guys can avoid the rat then we can continue
 

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Well in the shows ive seen its there for a hot minute but with that aside, Let me quote what you said


and see you making had motions, I realise there's a technique under way and before the sonic wave is shot forward

Now lets look at Q's jutsu

As their hands lower, the rumbling sound continues rapidly. The opponent begins to loose their sense of balance and concentration due to the sound wave tampering their brain and the earth rumbling like an earthquake


Now as u see if u see his hand movements his jutsu has already started meaning ur hand seals and getting ur hands to the ground its too late by then.

so now u guys are, 1. disoriented due to Q's jutsu, 2. Binded by my rat flesh and 3. unable to preform jutsu due to my rat hole. Now if u guys can avoid the rat then we can continue
"..The ground begins to rumble and then the opponent begins loosing their sense of balance and concentration.."

You'll notice it doesn't say it all happens instantly, it's a timed effect that happens over a period. Besides my concentration is enough for me to pull off a C ranked Earth technique at Sage level before his technique is even fully underway. Logical.

I'm not going to continue the arguing.
If you feel unconvinced, call in Cali, because I am not going to reply further to the thread if the arguing continues.
If Q wants my sword so much I'm willing to fight him in another battle.
That is, of course, if the arguing continues here.
 

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Okay, if your jutsu disrupts chakra underground, then I'm going to have to call bullsh*t.

Now I'm assuming the jutsu description means it destroys finished jutsu - because that's how I understood it when I approved it and that's why i even approved it, because otherwise it wouldn't have been - and it may be you were thinking of something else when you meant that and I took it for something else, for whiich there is a misunderstanding and I feel I should tell you now that it doesn't work that way, because if it does, I wouldn't have approved it like that.

Sorry for the misunderstanding with the jutsu, if there has been one.
 

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"..The ground begins to rumble and then the opponent begins loosing their sense of balance and concentration.."

You'll notice it doesn't say it all happens instantly, it's a timed effect that happens over a period. Besides my concentration is enough for me to pull off a C ranked Earth technique at Sage level before his technique is even fully underway. Logical.

I'm not going to continue the arguing.
If you feel unconvinced, call in Cali, because I am not going to reply further to the thread if the arguing continues.
If Q wants my sword so much I'm willing to fight him in another battle.
That is, of course, if the arguing continues here.

I dunno who that is, he is probably one of ur friends and i don't mind if he comes in. But take this battle for instance


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Naruto and Kiba where in there for a long time, so my smoke idea is still valid


and as ive said before if u could magically hit him who knows maybe u did hit Question maybe he is hit who knows but the fact of the matter is his jutsu still would have hit you
 

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Okay, if your jutsu disrupts chakra underground, then I'm going to have to call bullsh*t.

Now I'm assuming the jutsu description means it destroys finished jutsu - because that's how I understood it when I approved it and that's why i even approved it, because otherwise it wouldn't have been - and it may be you were thinking of something else when you meant that and I took it for something else, for whiich there is a misunderstanding and I feel I should tell you now that it doesn't work that way, because if it does, I wouldn't have approved it like that.

Sorry for the misunderstanding with the jutsu, if there has been one.

Well if you didnt understand the jutsu fully, maybe you should have asked him about it before you approved it, but the fact remains that it says earth jutsu are useless which includes your spikes, and as Rei says, what was once given to you shall never be taken back, so you cant tell him to change his jutsu now, also you cant see them....
 

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Well if you didnt understand the jutsu fully, maybe you should have asked him about it before you approved it, but the fact remains that it says earth jutsu are useless which includes your spikes, and as Rei says, what was once given to you shall never be taken back, so you cant tell him to change his jutsu now, also you cant see them....
Can you please either get the out of this argument or get your facts right please, because I've already fixed someone's ( Kaziname ) custom after it was misunderstood :|
 

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~ Thread Closed

Jake and Q, I leave the choice to you, please ^^

You can either get Cali ( Caliburn, the Global Moderator :| ) to check this thread, or we can restart. I have no issues either way.

Thanks ^_^
 

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Well taken into account the description of the jutsu, no matter how you look at it, Stone Spikes would never work. The sound doesn't work against normal chakra, but it does against earth and you need to use earth chakra either way and that will be countered by the sound. The reason as why earth/lightning chakra can't be used is acceptable, however that would mean no wind/water/fire jutsu's can be used either as those too are or in the air or in the ground. Saying that it only affects those two makes no sense at all. There is something wrong with that jutsu.

If Emp can't see you, you can't see him either (unless you're sensors, but no one said something about that). In that case the sound jutsu can't be finished as it says it has to be aimed at a specific point and as he doesn't see Emp, he can't use that part. So in the end Emp only has some bleeding ears and blurry vision.

I have also some doubts about the summoning of Jake, but that's not really an issue now.

Or you just start the battle over again (which would things make more easy to follow at this point) or you start from the point of Emp doing his first move or you just continu as it was with Jake just finishing his move and Emp just having some bleeding ears as nor Emp nor the sound jutsu worked completely.
 

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Thanks for your time, Cali ^^

I leave it to you, Jake.
Want to restart and put this behind us or continue ?
I personally vote for restart, but it's up to you in the end ^^
 

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PS: For the record jutsu's can be revoked <3 we have done it before with Alucards Pyramid of Doom and a series of Kirabi's jutsu's.
 

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Well taken into account the description of the jutsu, no matter how you look at it, Stone Spikes would never work. The sound doesn't work against normal chakra, but it does against earth and you need to use earth chakra either way and that will be countered by the sound. The reason as why earth/lightning chakra can't be used is acceptable, however that would mean no wind/water/fire jutsu's can be used either as those too are or in the air or in the ground. Saying that it only affects those two makes no sense at all. There is something wrong with that jutsu.

If Emp can't see you, you can't see him either (unless you're sensors, but no one said something about that). In that case the sound jutsu can't be finished as it says it has to be aimed at a specific point and as he doesn't see Emp, he can't use that part. So in the end Emp only has some bleeding ears and blurry vision.

I have also some doubts about the summoning of Jake, but that's not really an issue now.

Or you just start the battle over again (which would things make more easy to follow at this point) or you start from the point of Emp doing his first move or you just continu as it was with Jake just finishing his move and Emp just having some bleeding ears as nor Emp nor the sound jutsu worked completely.

I say we continue.


Meaning you guys are in the middle of defending against my rat coming from below.
 

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I say we continue.


Meaning you guys are in the middle of defending against my rat coming from below.
I want to clarify this with Cali.

Cali, whose move is it ?
And is Jake dead and his rat coming ?
 

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2 questions:

is my custom gonna be modded or something??

and what happens to Shigure??
 

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Jeeebus, its only a game you lot are writing essays like your given in a history test Jheeeze ^^ and they call me competitive >.>
 

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2 questions:

is my custom gonna be modded or something??

and what happens to Shigure??
Yes, after this fight is over.

I don't know, why should anything happen to him ? o_O If you mean why is he offline, then he must have IRL work lolz
 

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i meant, is he dead?? xD
 
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