hmmm u got a point, but think of it this way what the clone learns and recieves to a certain degree is returned to the user... so its possible if the clone does it anyway that he could die
isnt your "soul" in naruto like your life chakra or whatever (like what chiyo used) so when clones are made they have part of your "soul" to seal so it actually shortens your lifespan ...
idk, just the way i thought about when i saw that
hmmm u got a point, but think of it this way what the clone learns and recieves to a certain degree is returned to the user... so its possible if the clone does it anyway that he could die
isnt your "soul" in naruto like your life chakra or whatever (like what chiyo used) so when clones are made they have part of your "soul" to seal so it actually shortens your lifespan ...
idk, just the way i thought about when i saw that
His clones vanished after sealing those two and nothing happened to sandaime!!! he was fighting after that and he used his own body for sealing oro... whats the meaning of this!!!! :sy:
His clones vanished after sealing those two and nothing happened to sandaime!!! he was fighting after that and he used his own body for sealing oro... whats the meaning of this!!!! :sy:
His clones vanished after sealing those two and nothing happened to sandaime!!! he was fighting after that and he used his own body for sealing oro... whats the meaning of this!!!! :sy:
Corpse Demon Consuming Seal (屍鬼封尽, Shiki Fuujin)
Fuuinjutsu, S-rank, Offensive, Close range (0-5m)
User: Sandaime Hokage
Giving up one's own life to the God of Death, one can seal the soul of one's sworn enemy forever!!
This ultimate Fuuinjutsu can, by sacrificing one's own life, seal the target's soul for all eternity. Once, the Yondaime Hokage used this jutsu to seal the Kyuubi no Youko, loosing his own life. Because of this technique so secret, even a shinobi like Orochimaru didn't know about, the late Sandaime is now entombed in eternal darkness, seemingly never to see the sunlight again...
For those who've seen this shape, no technique exists to allow them to escape the Realm of the Dead
Second Databook, page 228
There is no two ways about it when you perform the technique you sacrifice your soul. He then used his kage bunshin's as a medium.
Corpse Demon Consuming Seal (屍鬼封尽, Shiki Fuujin)
Fuuinjutsu, S-rank, Offensive, Close range (0-5m)
User: Sandaime Hokage
Giving up one's own life to the God of Death, one can seal the soul of one's sworn enemy forever!!
This ultimate Fuuinjutsu can, by sacrificing one's own life, seal the target's soul for all eternity. Once, the Yondaime Hokage used this jutsu to seal the Kyuubi no Youko, loosing his own life. Because of this technique so secret, even a shinobi like Orochimaru didn't know about, the late Sandaime is now entombed in eternal darkness, seemingly never to see the sunlight again...
For those who've seen this shape, no technique exists to allow them to escape the Realm of the Dead
Second Databook, page 228
There is no two ways about it when you perform the technique you sacrifice your soul. He then used his kage bunshin's as a medium.
you and your awesome explanation like always My friend...
tanx
but I mean he used Kage bunshin and after they vanished nothing happened to the base(Hiruzen)
I remember kakashi said the time jutsu is released or something happen for kage bunshin(vanishing) all experience will back to the user at a sudden.
but it wasn't like this
His clones vanished after sealing those two and nothing happened to sandaime!!! he was fighting after that and he used his own body for sealing oro... whats the meaning of this!!!! :sy:
i said his lifespan decreases, but im not sure.
maybe you sacrifice your soul and take another soul with you, but i dont think the death reaper will mind getting more souls
i said his lifespan decreases, but im not sure.
maybe you sacrifice your soul and take another soul with you, but i dont think the death reaper will mind getting more souls
you and your awesome explanation like always My friend...
tanx
but I mean he used Kage bunshin and after they vanished nothing happened to the base(Hiruzen)
I remember kakashi said the time jutsu is released or something happen for kage bunshin(vanishing) all experience will back to the user at a sudden.
but it wasn't like this
Gave a hasty explanation therefore ill try and make it straight forward. As we know kage bunshin's can use the originals techniques and we have witnessed this with naruto's clones spamming rasengan, BUT this technique is different.
Whilst the normal basis of techniques is moulding chakra and what not, there is another requirement in order to use this technique. The user must sacrifice their soul. Kage bunshin's DO NOT have souls therefore even though they can use the originals techniques they cannot use this technique, it will fail if a bunshin of any sort uses this technique, thats why only the original can use it because they have a soul.
To further explain your question, ill use what kakashi said to naruto as an example and you actually skimmed it a bit .
As kakashi said here when when bunshin's is undone the things they experience add up to the originals aswell;
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He then went on to demonstrate this with a rock, paper, scissors game;
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As soon as the clones are undone and disperse the original gets the experience and naruto noted that he won the rock,paper, scissors game;
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So basically the clones were acting as a medium and any info or experience that the clone/s gain when they disperse it adds onto the user's. Thats why kakashi said is a good way to gather info.
Sarutobi's bunshin work on the same principle, he used his clones as a medium. Notice that when the clones sealed the 2 hokages they had the seals on their chest;
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They later dispersed in the middle page. If thats the case the seal on the bunshin should be be what the original (sarutobi) experiences. You could say just like how after naruto's clones dispersed he gained the info that he won the rock, paper game, sarutobi gained the seal that his clones had;
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^^^ You can clearly see the seals on the chest of the original, sarutobi after he died
Gave a hasty explanation therefore ill try and make it straight forward. As we know kage bunshin's can use the originals techniques and we have witnessed this with naruto's clones spamming rasengan, BUT this technique is different.
Whilst the normal basis of techniques is moulding chakra and what not, there is another requirement in order to use this technique. The user must sacrifice their soul. Kage bunshin's DO NOT have souls therefore even though they can use the originals techniques they cannot use this technique, it will fail if a bunshin of any sort uses this technique, thats why only the original can use it because they have a soul.
To further explain your question, ill use what kakashi said to naruto as an example and you actually skimmed it a bit .
As kakashi said here when when bunshin's is undone the things they experience add up to the originals aswell;
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He then went on to demonstrate this with a rock, paper, scissors game;
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As soon as the clones are undone and disperse the original gets the experience and naruto noted that he won the rock,paper, scissors game;
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So basically the clones were acting as a medium and any info or experience that the clone/s gain when they disperse it adds onto the user's. Thats why kakashi said is a good way to gather info.
Sarutobi's bunshin work on the same principle, he used his clones as a medium. Notice that when the clones sealed the 2 hokages they had the seals on their chest;
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They later dispersed in the middle page. If thats the case the seal on the bunshin should be be what the original (sarutobi) experiences. You could say just like how after naruto's clones dispersed he gained the info that he won the rock, paper game, sarutobi gained the seal that his clones had;
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^^^ You can clearly see the seals on the chest of the original, sarutobi after he died
but again :
the seal which bunshin did was done coz before they vanished hokages were sealed... so after they vanished the experience of death must returned to Hiruzen by a sudden coz the seal was done...
I get what you mean, but what you are saying is true if the seal was not complete unless the original one would be dead...BUT it was
coz the reaper needs to seal the soul of the target & Host in the same time
but tow kage were sealed before Hiruen died!!!
I'm not as good as you in explanation
I hope you get My point
We saw that Hiruzen could not grab all of Orochimaru's soul and instead took a part of it (corresponding to his hands) and sealed it with himself in the god of death's stomach. Then Orochimaru was left without the use of his hands, but still very much alive. And later on he got the use of his hands back as well after he took on a new body.
So, it might be possible that Sandaime similarly split his soul into the three clones and cleverly tricked the god to allow three sealings in lieu of one soul. He might have known about this loophole since he, after all, was the professor and knew all there was to know of the Konoha ninjutsus.
i dont believe the death reaper takes the users soul until after the jutsu (death reaper seal not shadow clone) jutsu has ended, since he was still using it on orochimaru, the reaper hadnt consumed his soul yet
