Pure Physical Strength in NV

[KingHashirama]

Lol KH you are such a hypocrite.. you always say Kish>whatever we say but when it's used against you it doesn't mean crap. While I wouldn't personally hate you I do have to say you're the biggest ignorant member on this site.

So the scans i provided aren't by Kishimoto? really?

Its funny how you guys are taking blows at me, while failing to counter all the things that happened after the scan yall posted. Why, not simply counter my scans? Because you can't...

 

[Murasame]

So the scans i provided aren't by Kishimoto? really?

Its funny how you guys are taking blows at me, while failing to counter all the things that happened after the scan yall posted. Why, not simply counter my scans? Because you can't...

Yeah but the majority of the times you misinterpret the scans into what you think.

Even if we counter you, you will still always argue with us.. there has been hardly any time if at all that we've come to an agreement. It would have to take Kishimoto himself to convince you.

 

[KingHashirama]

Yeah but the majority of the times you misinterpret the scans into what you think.

Even if we counter you, you will still always argue with us.. there has been hardly any time if at all that we've come to an agreement. It would have to take Kishimoto himself to convince you.

But the thing is you can't say "if we counter you".. when you failed to do so. But the thing is can you even counter them?

And mate, I admit i am wrong when someone proves me wrong. I have done it plenty times.. have no problem with it.. unlike some of you who thinks its a big deal to be proven wrong..

 

[Punk Hazard]

Answer me this then, Is Ems Madara on Hashirama's level or not?



aaaanddd you stlll aren't understanding my point here.

The damage to the organs is caused by the damage to the chakra points, that deliver chakra to every single cell.

Why else would Neji be Rock Lee's opposite, and coincidentally Lee learned the Gates to counter Neji.....

You block chakra points = you make taijutsu useless and pathetic.

You're missing our point: Using taijutsu doesn't consume chakra.

 

[KingHashirama]

You're missing our point: Using taijutsu doesn't consume chakra.

But every single shinobi needs chakra, if chakra is cut off, simply look at what happened to Naruto and Hinata.. Taijutsu is weak if chakra is cut off.. Hence why Lee's "arch-rival" is the man who specializes in cutting off chakra points, and not only that hence why lee gained the upgrade of the "gates" to counter that ability by restoring the chakra flow via chakra limit removers aka the Gates.

I know what you are trying to say. And i do get where you are coming from.. but you are talking like i never thought that way.. I perfectly understand that.. BUT you aren't understanding my point that the manga SHOWS that stamina = Chakra...

Loss of stamina = loss of chakra. The shinobi body is weak without chakra.. Because they have fused their mental energy and physical energy into chakra already.

 

[RikudouMadara]

I feel Madara as he currently is....is physically the strongest. He has the strength of the Juubi within him. 9 massive beasts rolled into one. Plus
SM, and his own strength. Other than Him....I say Tsunade or Sakura.

 

[mrcrazyboyravi]

pure strengthwise top 5 are
1.Madara Uchihaa
2.Hashirama
3.Raikage
4.Tsunade
5.Killa B

 

[Minator93]

Strengthwise:

1. BSM Naruto
2. BM Naruto
3. SM Naruto
4. 3rd Raikage
5. Tsunade

 

[TheEvilOne]

Pure physical strength ( without enchantments )

1. Tsunade
2. 3rd or 4th Raikage
3. Killer Bee
4. Guy

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Again, enchantments/chakra/upgrades count in this thread because I'm not being a purist, I just want to analyse how strong someone can punch the ground or throw a rhino using their own body and their move set.

For us these upgrades are like magical fictional powers so it's easy for us to seperate them but these people were born with Chakra, it's part of their lives and part of their bodies- think about it like that.

 

[Rokudaime Hokage Naruto]

sakura.

Those who say throwing > causing more damage with a punch when it comes to strength, have obviously never taken a strength class.

loooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooool

 

[phantomlord22]

Naruto and tsunade I guess

nice thread btw

 

[Joshutsu]

Strengthwise:

1. BSM Naruto
2. BM Naruto
3. SM Naruto
4. 3rd Raikage
5. Tsunade

Need for 3 Naruto's because? He can fill one slot and you can specify in a bracket ._. it's one person.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Whatever proof you can provide, holding up a falling mountain with one arm and tossing it aside requires more strength than smashing the ground. Maybe not Sakura level but more than damn Bee/Naruto that's for sure.

And what's with everyone voting Naruto? Jirobo's throwing feat is way more impressive and Naruto has been shown to be weak ever since, he barely managed to pull black rods out of the Jinchuuriki.