PS power And PS vs kurama

[Turson]

Hachibi punched one bijuu, and then did nothing. After naruto went BM, neither kakashi nor gai did something. In the end, his bijuu dama stood up to other 5. And then he owned them, and took the chakra rods out, forcing obito to return them to the gedo mazo. Sasuke and itachi had nothing to do with that battle.

That is true. Although Bee had some input, it was relatively small. Kakashi and Gai were doing nothing, hidden in Kuramas avatar.

 

[KingHashirama]

So will you start using logic? Whats is it that makes goubi to take PS slash? As far im concerned, its made of same mokuton. PS not only has cut those mokuton arms but the much bigger and durable mountains. Even shinsusenju couldnt catch those TBBs cuz it had swords in them. Maybe hashirama made new one just like susanoo user can make new one?

Idk why people think the Buddha loosing its hands was a big deal.. when it didn't even matter to Hashirama..

 

[AlphaScythian]

Hachibi punched one bijuu, and then did nothing. After naruto went BM, neither kakashi nor gai did something. In the end, his bijuu dama stood up to other 5. And then he owned them, and took the chakra rods out, forcing obito to return them to the gedo mazo. Sasuke and itachi had nothing to do with that battle.

Well then we can agree that defeated 5 bijus is overstatement. Naruto just removed rods. Bee was wounded and BM has time limit bijus dont. Dont make it sound as naruto could beat 5 bijus for real. You have to see a plot.

 

[Smd]

Bro, they make progress as pairs, sasuke got PS, and Naruto surpassed him with BSM. They're not always equals. Learn to read.

you are heavily baised.

until then PS=>BSM based off manga feats+hype

 

[Wolfus]

Well then we can agree that defeated 5 bijus is overstatement. Naruto just removed rods. Bee was wounded and BM has time limit bijus dont. Dont make it sound as naruto could beat 5 bijus for real. You have to see a plot.

He fougth them, he hold his ground, and he was pushing them back. He had that time limit back then, that time has increased, and look what he did with only that amount of time.

 

[AlphaScythian]

Idk why people think the Buddha loosing its hands was a big deal.. when it didn't even matter to Hashirama..

Would it matter if instead of hands, legs were chopped

He fought them, he hold his ground, and he was pushing them back. He had that time limit back then, that time has increased, and look what he did with only that amount of time.

So you are trying to state that. You're completely disregarding that gai and kakashi saved naruto, you also negating the fact that goku gave naruto the info on how to stop them. Even wounded bee was able to cover naruto's back and saved him couple of times. In no shape or form can naruto beat 5 bijus.

 

[Turson]

Well then we can agree that defeated 5 bijus is overstatement. Naruto just removed rods. Bee was wounded and BM has time limit bijus dont. Dont make it sound as naruto could beat 5 bijus for real. You have to see a plot.

Frankly, I think that current BSM Naruto would beat 5 Bijuus. Naruto needed one tail for a beast to subdue it (which means he had 4 tails on the perimeter), plus I think that his TBB strenghtened by nature energy should overpower their TBB quite easily.

you are heavily baised.

until then PS=>BSM based off manga feats+hype

You shouldnt even bother replying, everyone knows you are a troll.

 

[Wolfus]

Would it matter if instead of hands, legs were chopped
So you are trying to state that. You're completely disregarding that gai and kakashi saved naruto, you also negating the fact that goku gave naruto the info on how to stop them. Even wounded bee was able to cover naruto's back and saved him couple of times. In no shape or form can naruto beat 5 bijus.

You're wrong. Kakashi did NOTHING when naruto is in BM. Pay attention, I'm talking about BM.
The only info naruto had is how to stop them. He still had to locate the rods, and take them, and it was very hard to it. All of that, he did it in his first time BM within 5 minutes.
The only thing hachibi did was stopping a bijuu. He only helped BM naruto once, and naruto could've withstood the atack.
And another thing, naruto was pushing them back, he even managed to hold all 5 of them on the ground, and managed to do a bijuu dama to match theirs combined.
Yeah, he can keep up with 5 bijuus.

 

[AlphaScythian]

You're wrong. Kakashi did NOTHING when naruto is in BM. Pay attention, I'm talking about BM.
The only info naruto had is how to stop them. He still had to locate the rods, and take them, and it was very hard to it. All of that, he did it in his first time BM within 5 minutes.
The only thing hachibi did was stopping a bijuu. He only helped BM naruto once, and naruto could've withstood the atack.
And another thing, naruto was pushing them back, he even managed to hold all 5 of them on the ground, and managed to do a bijuu dama to match theirs combined.
Yeah, he can keep up with 5 bijuus.

Keeping up while he has BM isnt beating them. Not to mention retarded stategy they had. If surrounded from each sides they would overpower him with TBBs, while naruto targets 1 biju with TBB 4 others target him.

 

[Turson]

Keeping up while he has BM isnt beating them. Not to mention retarded stategy they had. If surrounded from each sides they would overpower him with TBBs, while naruto targets 1 biju with TBB 4 others target him.

Considering that Naruto tanked Juubis laser, I dont think that TBBs from these beasts would inflict much of a harm to him.

 

[Wolfus]

Keeping up while he has BM isnt beating them. Not to mention retarded stategy they had. If surrounded from each sides they would overpower him with TBBs, while naruto targets 1 biju with TBB 4 others target him.

He can, you know, dodge. He has the speed. Maybe he can even withstand it, or send some flying. A "roar" of his sent all 5 flying, don't forget that.
Remember he ddin't want to hurt them too much. And in the end, he had all the 5 held down, they couldn't move. He could've blasted a bijuu dama in their faces.
He has the potential to win.

 

[TrollingSage]

PS is more powerful. It simply has more raw power, PS slash is a proof of that. Kurama can trump the destruction caused by using bigger TBB yes, but TBB is a ninjutsu, PS slash isnt.

Goubi isnt suitable to fight smart bijus nor can it stand up to PS slash. Smart biju will use laser bijudama and goubi is no more, PS slash will chop it down effortlessly as well.

Im under impression you're trying to imply that covering kurama in susanoo armor made susanoo more powerful. How is it supported? It the other way around.

A bullet is more powerful than a grenade because a bullet can penetrate more objects right?
That's the kind of logic you're using. Both jutsus cause different kinds of damages. You can't compare them.
PS slash sliced the top of multiple mountains, TBB completely obliterated an entire mountain

 

[AlphaScythian]

He can, you know, dodge. He has the speed. Maybe he can even withstand it, or send some flying. A "roar" of his sent all 5 flying, don't forget that.
Remember he ddin't want to hurt them too much. And in the end, he had all the 5 held down, they couldn't move. He could've blasted a bijuu dama in their faces.
He has the potential to win.

He cant dodge and shot TBBs at same time. He cant roar them all off at once it doesnt go 360º. Most importantly its 5 tbbs to one. Even if naruto tries to make a big one they can always target TBB itself. Thus set it off next to naruto or change the trajectory.

A bullet is more powerful than a grenade because a bullet can penetrate more objects right?
That's the kind of logic you're using. Both jutsus cause different kinds of damages. You can't compare them.
PS slash sliced the top of multiple mountains, TBB completely obliterated an entire mountain

i was using the logic that its is the raw susanoo strength that makes PS slash, and no biju has ever shown such raw power, while TBB is a ninjutsu of yin and yang chakra in special proportion that makes it a high explosive. So get lost with you lame comparison.