I deleted the whole first part because it's irrelevant to anything. It's just wasted space on telling us how big the Shinjuu is, which doesn't matter, because:
1. We already know it
2. Size means little to durability per unit
Since you haven't addressed this anywhere else, this is where I'll refute LRS cutting PS nonsense. Apparently your whole point here is that the Shinjuu being big means it also has god-like durability, thus making LRS able to cut anything, which is lol-worthy. First off, let's see how your favorite, indestructible tree fared off against other attacks:
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The Shinjuu's branches were getting cut by attacks below LRS in power, and none of those would've even scratched PS. The difference in those attacks and LRS is that the latter has the necessary AOE to take down
the whole tree in one fell swoop, which the above attacks can't, even though they can easily cut it as well, since the branches of the Shinjuu and the Shinjuu stump have the same fuсking durability. Enlarge Mifune's sword to LRS's burst size and it'd cut the tree down as well. On the other hand, it'd still do zero damage to PS, seeing as how it took 12 TBBs + Choujo Kebutsu to take one down, and that's just EMS Madara's. JJ Madara's and Rikudou Sasuke's PS are completely out of the question.
Then there's the other fact of durability. LRS canonically failed to cut JJ Madara in half. I saw your little argument that he had already regenerated on that panel, even though that's complete BS since:
A) He was shown right after the attack
B) Madara failed to regenerate a bigger wound (from 8G Gai) that quick, yet he did here
C) Madara hadn't even absorbed the Shinjuu, and when he later got truly bisected by Sasuke, he took a long while to actually regen his other half, yet here, without the Shinjuu's added regeneration boost, he somehow did faster than with it. Logic at its finest. :rolleyes
So LRS failed to bisect Madara, and later we have
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. A basic Chidori spear did the job, not to mention a basic sword piercing him. Following your LRS cuts PS logic, this would mean that: 1. A sword can pierce PS regardless of size; 2. A base Chidori spear can bisect PS if increased in size. This sounds extremely stupid on its own, but if I have to spell it out for you, here: the Shinjuu's durability is not far from a normal tree's. If it wasn't, inferior attacks like the aforementioned wouldn't have even scratched it. PS has proven its durability to be many,
many times greater than that of the Shinjuu, considering what it took to completely destroy PS. Following that, LRS has only proven to cut the vastly inferior tree and has even failed to cut Madara, who was later bisected by a Chidori, proving that size means jack, and in resulting refuting the implied fact that the same Chidori would do anything to PS, or the katana.
This whole ''it's soooo big, so LRS must be really stronk'' fallacy is stupid, and it was honestly countered with TheSages456's comment, I'm just expanding on it. Your trail of thought boils down to the following analogy: if I take and enlarge a simple kitchen knife, and with it cut a big piece of cheese, this also means that I can cut through a steel vault, because it's smaller than the kitchen knife. Just what the hell. :lol
And to put an end to the favorite dumbass argument that one simian uses: ''hurr, JJ's can never be below PS in durability, Shinjuu is strong because of Kaguya/Hagoromo'' (what the fuсk does that even mean). It was proven time and time again in this series that almost nobody with a
human structure and no form of defense can take
cutting, non-blunt force attacks with zero damage. Examples are numerous, like JJ Madara getting impaled by a basic ass sword that wouldn't even scratch PS, but was
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that would normally crush a person like a can, or Kaguya
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yet getting her arm chopped off by a freaking
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much weaker War Arc KCM Naruto tanking the Juubi's Tenpenchii [
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]. Second part about the Shinjuu is just absolute make-belief BS that has no feats to support it whatsoever. ''It's strong because Kaguya'' means nothing since not you, nor anyone else has feats to support the Shinjuu having this non-existent, fanfic durability.
Get some reading comprehension and reread the manga.
LRS > God Tree > Red Barrier > Kyuubi Avatars,SA,Madara's PS and Hashirama's wood Golem.
In size? Sure. That's about the only way this quoted portrayal can hold true anyway.
If someone says that PS can tank Lava RS its like saying that house fly can tank Nuclear Explosion.
What an idiotic example. When said house fly has the durability of PS, and not a normal house fly then we can talk. When the nuclear explosion doesn't explode, but cut, and it has only proven to cut something that is not even close to greater than the house fly's durability then we can talk. Can you even look at anything but size?
Seriously, worst comparison ever.
Most of the members on this site makes the misconception of confusing TSBRS with TBBRS.
Lol, as soon as I read this I knew I was in for a laugh. Most members on this site have the basic reading comprehension to understand that there is no ''TSBRS" and that it and BDFRS are exactly the same jutsu. Only difference is that the first time it was used with TSB as a basis, because it was much more convenient for Naruto to quickly make 6 BDFRS with his TSB at hand than to bother making TBB's and then make the BDFRS, which would've taken more time.
TSBRS is faster and stronger than TBBRS.
Based on absolutely nothing, considering BDFRS is an entirely different technique than TSB.
TBBRS are made out of Tailed Beast Bomb whereas TSBRS are made out of TSBs.
No difference whatsoever, except BDFRS could be
made faster if Naruto has his TSB. The end result is the same.
TSBRS is extremely faster than TBBRS.
Sure it is. Without even having read the rest of your post, I can already guess you're going to use TSB's speed as an example, even though that's stupid, but eh.. not like the rest of this thread makes sense.
TSB are faster than kamui.It required Double Kamui to dodge TSB.Although Kamui phasing is faster than kamui jumping ability. As TSBs are faster than Kamui so its safe to conclude that TSBRS is faster than Kamui (Although Kamui phasing is faster) as well.
Lol, okay, pal. It takes Obito a good 2-3 seconds to warp fully with 1MS. Madara was standing at like 5 meters away from Obito: [
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]. All you've proven so far is that the TSB cross that distance in 1-2 seconds. If you think that's impressive, that's cool, I don't understand why you're wanking Kamui's speed in this case, though. Oh wait, that's a lie - I know you're making out 1MS Kamui self-warp to be this super fast technique so the TSB's speed would seem impressive, but it's not working.
Don't mistake what I wrote as an attempt to say they're slow. TSB are definitely fast for projectiles. They're just nowhere near the speed you think they are.
Naruto could create 9 TSBRS instantly out of TSBs whereas Naruto could make maximum 2 TBBRS or 4 TBBRS with the help of his chakra arms.
Or he just makes clones that can make more BDFRS than when he's only limited to his 9 TSB. The only thing you're right in so far is that the BDFRS that are made with TSB take significantly less time to form.
Naruto has complete control over TSBRS and naruto has a control over their movements because of its TSB properties.
Lmao. Is that why Naruto said ''
I must be careful not to hit Sasuke'' [
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aiming with the BDFRS, or when he said "
Don't come down like that, or my FRS will hit you'' [
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], when he could just, according to you, steer them away from Sasuke? Take this crap to the fanfic section.
This is where I also address this ''TSB properties carry to BDFRS'' stuff. Both BDFRS made with a TBB or TSB result in the same technique. Both times it hasn't demonstrated anything that would differentiate one from the other. Not only can Naruto not control the BDFRS with TSB's movement (which he has only done once, and he needed a chakra arm for it), but even if we did assume the core mattered for the jutsu's speed and power (which it doesn't), then that would mean BDFRS with TBB > with TSB, since a standard
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in destruction capacity. Oh, by the way, that scan I used wasn't even from Half or Full Kurama.
When you give me actual proof of the Gudoudama's properties enhancing BDFRS, thus making it different than BDFRS with a TBB is when I'll take you seriously.
These things makes TSBRS impossible to be dodged.If the fastest Teleportation jutsu I.e. Kamui cant dodge it then i don't think that anyone can dodge it.
Sorry, the bold was just too much. I guess you can't understand why that's so stupid that it's funny, so I'll elaborate:
1. Implying 1MS Kamui self-warp is instant or at a speed level that's comparable to an actual S/T transportation
2. Implying the TSB ever outsped anything above that
3. Implying Kamui, DMS or not, is the fastest S/T jutsu
4. Implying the TSB's properties carry over to BDFRS, which you can never prove
To say what Obito did is ''instant'' is just... I don't even know how to call it. Like, what the hell? You know when your garbage sentence would hold true? When Madara aims those TSB at Minato/Tobirama/Sasuke, and their FTG/Amenotejikara fails to transport them elsewhere before the TSB hits them. That's what you can call being faster than the fastest teleportation. And Kamui being the fastest teleportation technique is the icing on the cake. Nothing is faster than instant. Kamui's S/T travel has never portrayed to be instant, let alone 1MS Obito self-warping himself. Not only that, it's also an established fact self-warping is actually the slowest property of Kamui,
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I'm not going to cover the last part about Sasuke switching with Naruto's techniques because I don't care about that. But, as I said in my first post - so much fail.
