I didn't run away as you put it your reply didn't appear in my notifications for some reason but your neg rep did. What's with the neg rep though do I have to agree with you? :lol
You want to talk about reading maybe you should read my post again, I said madara was not destroyed by the RS I never used bisected or otherwise injured. Your OP suggests that JJ madara is tougher than PS because you don't believe PS would survive lava RS therefore for JJ madara to have only that level of injury his durability must be greater than PS this is what you are indirectly saying.
Don't confuse my posts with those of others by linking me with the rest of the crowd, look again and see clearly what I have posted.
I think you need to look up the meaning of "bisect". That was NOT bisection, just a cut. Lava FRS couldn't even bisect JJ Madara who got completely bisected by Sasuke's sword, and you think something like that can cut PS? LMFAO. It will only scratch the PS at best.
Naruto completely divide madara into 2 parts but his regeneration abilities healed him.Lava FRS made madara to absorb God Tree.
PS couldn't even tank Mere Chakra punch which is not even as big as Sasuke's PS but you still think that lava FRS ,which has a wider range than God Tree, cant cut PS which is 2000 times smaller than God Tree?
Absolutely false. If Madara was completely divided into two parts, then he'd have to regenerate his lower half completely like he did after Sasuke bisected him with his sword, which he didn't do, and it would also take much more time. So it's obvious Lava FRS didn't completely slice Madara.
PS couldn't even tank Mere Chakra punch which is not even as big as Sasuke's PS but you still think that lava FRS ,which has a wider range than God Tree, cant cut PS which is 2000 times smaller than God Tree?
Firstly, Kaguya's chakra punches are NOT mere chakra punches. They are extremely powerful and have tremendous force. Just because they aren't as big as Sasuke's PS doesn't means they aren't enormously powerful. So your downplaying logic is totally fallacious.
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Secondly, Lava FRS having a greater range is totally irrelevant because it does not prove that it can cut PS. You need greater power for that, not greater range. Greater range =/= greater power. Thirdly, PS being 2000 times smaller is also irrelevant because it does not prove Lava FRS can cut it. You need less power for PS for that, not less size. Less size =/= less power.
And take your logic back (same logic as @bold)...
Toneri's Golden Wheel Reincarnation Explosion which has a wider range than the moon COULDN'T cut BSM Naruto who is 100000000x smaller. So now, let's see how you use your pathetic logic again...
I didn't run away as you put it your reply didn't appear in my notifications for some reason but your neg rep did. What's with the neg rep though do I have to agree with you? :lol
You want to talk about reading maybe you should read my post again, I said madara was not destroyed by the RS I never used bisected or otherwise injured. Your OP suggests that JJ madara is tougher than PS because you don't believe PS would survive lava RS therefore for JJ madara to have only that level of injury his durability must be greater than PS this is what you are indirectly saying.
Don't confuse my posts with those of others by linking me with the rest of the crowd, look again and see clearly what I have posted.
JJ Madara isn't tougher than PS but he can regenerate even after being cut and destroyed by any jutsu.Its because of juubi jin regeneration power.
I didn't mention or write directly or indirectly that JJ Madara is more durable than PS.Its the conclusion which you have come up with.
If i goes by your logic then Kisame is more durable than Edo Madara's legged Susanoo because Kisame survived through 7th Gate Gai's hirodora Attack which destroyed Edo madara's Legged Susanoo.
Absolutely false. If Madara was completely divided into two parts, then he'd have to regenerate his lower half completely like he did after Sasuke bisected him with his sword, which he didn't do, and it would also take much more time. So it's obvious Lava FRS didn't completely slice Madara.
Above statement proves that you dont know the meaning of bisect.
Tsunade was cut into 2 halves by Edo madara but She didn't regenerate her lower half completely so that means Edo Madara didn't "bisect" her?
When JJ Madara was able to attach his lower body part with his upper body then why would he need to regenerate a new pair of legs?
In case of Sasuke, Madara was in hurry to get his 2nd rinnegan back because sakura was going to destroy it in kamui dimension.Madara didn't bother to attach his lower body part and he teleported to kamui land.
So much wrong here...
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Firstly, Kaguya's chakra punches are NOT mere chakra punches. They are extremely powerful and have tremendous force. Just because they aren't as big as Sasuke's PS doesn't means they aren't enormously powerful. So your downplaying logic is totally fallacious.
Lava FRS is also an extremely powerful attack.
you wrote that PS is extremely durable so why didn't it tank those arms?
Although i agree that Chakra arms were extremely powerful but RSM Naruto was able to tank them.
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Your logic = Chakra arms are extremely powerful because it destroyed PS but Lava FRS which destroyed God Tree (Much bigger and powerful thing than PS) isn't powerful enough to destroy PS?
IF Something like Chakra arms can destroy it then Lava FRS can also cut PS.
Secondly, Lava FRS having a greater range is totally irrelevant because it does not prove that it can cut PS. You need greater power for that, not greater range. Greater range =/= greater power. Thirdly, PS being 2000 times smaller is also irrelevant because it does not prove Lava FRS can cut it. You need less power for PS for that, not less size. Less size =/= less power.
Sword of PS has the wider range than sword of Level 4 Susanoo so that means level 4 Susanoo's Sword attack can be more powerful than PS's sword?
Greater range comes from greater power thats why Madara's PS cut the mountains when he was trying to kill kages instead of cutting mountains.His PS had the wider range which even cut those mountains behind the kages.
Hashirama's Wood Golem is just made of Mokuton (belongs to the power of God Tree) was able to destroy EMS Madara's PS.Greater Size means more power.
Hashirama's shinsuusenju was able to tank PS sword + TBB combination and it destroyed Madara's PS along with Kyuubi but Spiral Zetsu's Shinsuusenju wasn't able to tank Karin's Chakra chains.
Although they were the same things but there was a huge difference between their sizes.
And take your logic back (same logic as @bold)...
Toneri's Golden Wheel Reincarnation Explosion which has a wider range than the moon COULDN'T cut BSM Naruto who is 100000000x smaller. So now, let's see how you use your pathetic logic again...
That was a non canon movie.Naruto didn't even use his RSM in that movie.
Movies are known for exaggerating everything.Referring to the movie in order to prove your point is hilarious.That movie also showed that Naruto was caught into a genjutsu even when naruto is a perfect jin.
honestly susano are so overrated by some uchiwa wankos
basic wind jutsu like danzo can blow open a v2. advanced wind jutsu like a odama senjutsu frs from RSM Naruto would crush a Ps so would full power bijuu dama, bijuu rasen-shuriken barage, lava FRS, even kokuo kairiki musou crushed kaguya it would snap a ps like butter
JJ Madara isn't tougher than PS but he can regenerate even after being cut and destroyed by any jutsu.Its because of juubi jin regeneration power.
I didn't mention or write directly or indirectly that JJ Madara is more durable than PS.Its the conclusion which you have come up with.
If i goes by your logic then Kisame is more durable than Edo Madara's legged Susanoo because Kisame survived through 7th Gate Gai's hirodora Attack which destroyed Edo madara's Legged Susanoo.
That is a conclusion I came to based on your OP. From my understanding you are saying PS would gets destroyed by LRS madara was only damaged by it he wasn't obliterated, how does that not suggest that JJ madara is more durable?
Your kisame example doesn't work because gai wasn't aiming to kill but capture so we have no idea how much he held back.
That is a conclusion I came to based on your OP. From my understanding you are saying PS would gets destroyed by LRS madara was only damaged by it he wasn't obliterated, how does that not suggest that JJ madara is more durable?
Your kisame example doesn't work because gai wasn't aiming to kill but capture so we have no idea how much he held back.
Read my OP again.I quoted my OP below so you can read it.You can clearly read that i didn't write that Lava FRS can destroy PS.Its 2nd wrong conclusion which you have came up with.I said that It can cut PS and PS can't tank this jutsu.
As i wrote, You came up with that wrong conclusions.My thread didn't state anything like that.Many Members including you has the misconception that PS can tank Lava FRS.I made a thread which proves that PS can't tank Lava FRS.
In fact Lava FRS doesn't have explosive properties unlike rest of FRS but it does have cutting properties and the release of Lava in an instant.
Your argument that madara wasn't obliterated by Lava FRS is a wrong statement.Lava FRS has the cutting properties so asking about that why didn't obliterate madara is like asking that why don't rasengan cut through things when rasengan has entirely different ability.
You are wrong. Gai was trying to kill Kisame because Kisame had the intel on naruto and bee.There is no way Gai held back.
Gai fainted after usage of hirodora.
JJ Madara isn't tougher than PS but he can regenerate even after being cut and destroyed by any jutsu.Its because of juubi jin regeneration power.
I didn't mention or write directly or indirectly that JJ Madara is more durable than PS.Its the conclusion which you have come up with.
If i goes by your logic then Kisame is more durable than Edo Madara's legged Susanoo because Kisame survived through 7th Gate Gai's hirodora Attack which destroyed Edo madara's Legged Susanoo.
I don't think so
Above statement proves that you dont know the meaning of bisect.
Tsunade was cut into 2 halves by Edo madara but She didn't regenerate her lower half completely so that means Edo Madara didn't "bisect" her?
When JJ Madara was able to attach his lower body part with his upper body then why would he need to regenerate a new pair of legs?
In case of Sasuke, Madara was in hurry to get his 2nd rinnegan back because sakura was going to destroy it in kamui dimension.Madara didn't bother to attach his lower body part and he teleported to kamui land.
Actually you are trying to downplay Lava FRS.
Lava FRS is also an extremely powerful attack.
you wrote that PS is extremely durable so why didn't it tank those arms?
Although i agree that Chakra arms were extremely powerful but RSM Naruto was able to tank them.
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Your logic = Chakra arms are extremely powerful because it destroyed PS but Lava FRS which destroyed God Tree (Much bigger and powerful thing than PS) isn't powerful enough to destroy PS?
IF Something like Chakra arms can destroy it then Lava FRS can also cut PS.
Greater range =/= greater power? Really?
Where did you get that logic?
Sword of PS has the wider range than sword of Level 4 Susanoo so that means level 4 Susanoo's Sword attack can be more powerful than PS's sword?
Greater range comes from greater power thats why Madara's PS cut the mountains when he was trying to kill kages instead of cutting mountains.His PS had the wider range which even cut those mountains behind the kages.
Hashirama's Wood Golem is just made of Mokuton (belongs to the power of God Tree) was able to destroy EMS Madara's PS.Greater Size means more power.
Hashirama's shinsuusenju was able to tank PS sword + TBB combination and it destroyed Madara's PS along with Kyuubi but Spiral Zetsu's Shinsuusenju wasn't able to tank Karin's Chakra chains.
Although they were the same things but there was a huge difference between their sizes.
That was a non canon movie.Naruto didn't even use his RSM in that movie.
Movies are known for exaggerating everything.Referring to the movie in order to prove your point is hilarious.That movie also showed that Naruto was caught into a genjutsu even when naruto is a perfect jin.
I never said that not regenerating the lower half completely means you're not bisected. Tsunade didn't regenerate her lower half because she couldn't AND her lower half was reattached by Orochimaru, Karin and Suigetsu, so there was no need for her to do so.
Madara can't reattach his lower half himself. Regeneration doesn't provide the capability of reattachment. Madara would definitely need to regenerate his lower half. BTW, stop correspondingly totally different cases to prove your point. It won't help you.
When JJ Madara was able to attach his lower body part with his upper body then why would he need to regenerate a new pair of legs?
Reattachment is not possible because the lower half gets completely separated in bisection. Madara regenerating is proof that he wasn't bisected.
In case of Sasuke, Madara was in hurry to get his 2nd rinnegan back because sakura was going to destroy it in kamui dimension.Madara didn't bother to attach his lower body part and he teleported to kamui land.
Yes, he was in a hurry but that doesn't prove that he can attach his lower half at whim.
Plus, if Madara's body was bisected, then it should be separated they very moment Lava FRS struck him, which it didn't. His body can't separate after being pushed away from the Lava FRS. So that proves that Madara wasn't bisected, but just received a cut.
LOL. When TF does being "extremely durable" mean it's completely unbreakable? PS couldn't tank those arms because they are ridiculously powerful, and they overpowered PS's defenses.
Although i agree that Chakra arms were extremely powerful but RSM Naruto was able to tank them.
RSM Naruto didn't exactly tank chakra arms, he got pushed away. And the chakra arms Kaguya used against Naruto were 15 times inferior to the chakra arms she used against Sasuke. If you think they were the same chakra arms, you're ignorant.
Your logic = Chakra arms are extremely powerful because it destroyed PS but Lava FRS which destroyed God Tree (Much bigger and powerful thing than PS) isn't powerful enough to destroy PS?
You're totally in delusion. God Tree is much bigger than PS, but not more powerful. In fact, God Tree's durability sucks. You think something that got cut so easily by Sasuke's V3 Susanoo sword and Tobirama Suiton blade has higher durability than PS? I can only laugh at that. xd Cutting the God Tree wasn't impressive at all. The only reason FRS was impressive was that it cut the entire God Tree by extension.
IF Something like Chakra arms can destroy it then Lava FRS can also cut PS.
Your examples come straight out of a trash can. PS sword isn't stronger than V4 Susanoo sword because it has a greater range. It is naturally stronger than V4 sword because it belongs to a higher level of Susanoo AND it also has a greater range, which is a completely independent aspect. PS sword will be stronger regardless of whether it has a greater range or not, and having a greater range doesn't mean it is stronger.
Greater range comes from greater power thats why Madara's PS cut the mountains when he was trying to kill kages instead of cutting mountains.His PS had the wider range which even cut those mountains behind the kages.
I've already countered this above. Greater range does not come from greater power. The force per area (which is the actual power) can be same for an attack with a large range and an attack with a small range.
Hashirama's Wood Golem is just made of Mokuton (belongs to the power of God Tree) was able to destroy EMS Madara's PS.Greater Size means more power.
1. Hashirama's Mokuton durability >>>>> God Tree's durability. It could completely tank a full Kurama bijuudama whereas God Tree got easily cut by V3 Susanoo sword.
2. God Tree is not offensive at all. So having greater size does nothing, since it can't destroy stuff like Hashirama's Wood Golem.
3. We're talking about durability here. Not power. Greater size does not mean it has greater durability when talking about two different things.
Hashirama's shinsuusenju was able to tank PS sword + TBB combination
That's because Hashirama's Shinsuusenju was bigger and stronger.
If the same material is bigger, then it'll have greater durability and power. If the same material is larger, then it'll have same durability and power. But if a different material is bigger or larger, then it doesn't mean it will have greater power. God Tree is made from a very weak material, it got easily cut by V3 Susanoo sword and Tobirama's Suiton blade, whereas PS is made from such a strong material that it could completely tank a bijuudama. In that case, God Tree's bigger size doesn't matter.
Although they were the same things but there was a huge difference between their sizes.
Just because he didn't use RSM does not make it non-canon. Kishi said that this movie was the plot in between chapter 699 and 700, so yes, it's canon.
Movies are known for exaggerating everything.Referring to the movie in order to prove your point is hilarious.That movie also showed that Naruto was caught into a genjutsu even when naruto is a perfect jin.
Absolutely false. If Madara was completely divided into two parts, then he'd have to regenerate his lower half completely like he did after Sasuke bisected him with his sword, which he didn't do, and it would also take much more time. So it's obvious Lava FRS didn't completely slice Madara.
So much wrong here...
Firstly, Kaguya's chakra punches are NOT mere chakra punches. They are extremely powerful and have tremendous force. Just because they aren't as big as Sasuke's PS doesn't means they aren't enormously powerful. So your downplaying logic is totally fallacious.
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Secondly, Lava FRS having a greater range is totally irrelevant because it does not prove that it can cut PS. You need greater power for that, not greater range. Greater range =/= greater power. Thirdly, PS being 2000 times smaller is also irrelevant because it does not prove Lava FRS can cut it. You need less power for PS for that, not less size. Less size =/= less power.
And take your logic back (same logic as @bold)...
Toneri's Golden Wheel Reincarnation Explosion which has a wider range than the moon COULDN'T cut BSM Naruto who is 100000000x smaller. So now, let's see how you use your pathetic logic again...
LMAO. That's some damage control there. You have nothing on your side, so you're resorting to this... :lol Susanoo can easily handle Lava FRS, it's not even a threat for PS which absolutely tanks it. Every sensible person should know that by now.
Chakra punches Kaguya used against Naruto <<<<<< Chakra punches she used against Sasuke's PS.
LMAO. That's some damage control there. You have nothing on your side, so you're resorting to this... :lol Susanoo can easily handle Lava FRS, it's not even a threat for PS which absolutely tanks it. Every sensible person should know that by now.
Chakra punches Kaguya used against Naruto = she had full chakra and that was 1 of her 1st attack and used 2 hands
Chakra punches she used against Sasuke's PS= she got her arm cut of by naruto then sasuke attempt to attack but failed then she Chakra punches ps and use just 1 hand
so tall me how can injure kaguras Chakra punches stronger then full health kagura( no injure)
Chakra punches Kaguya used against Naruto <<<<<< Chakra punches she used against Sasuke's PS.
LMAO. That's some damage control there. You have nothing on your side, so you're resorting to this... :lol Susanoo can easily handle Lava FRS, it's not even a threat for PS which absolutely tanks it. Every sensible person should know that by now.
Except Juubidamas are composed of Rikudou Chakra and Natural Energy and those same Juubidamas literally left Madara's Susano'o as a shroud whereas Gai's Evening Elephant absolutely busted through Juubidara's Gudoudama yet Juubidara still survived a much stronger hit than that.
It's important to note that Night Moth only left a small dent in the Shinju whereas Yoton FRS prior to the explosion was busting through the Shinju.
If you don't think so, then it means I'm right. LOL.
That's because you didn't understand it.
I never said that not regenerating the lower half completely means you're not bisected. Tsunade didn't regenerate her lower half because she couldn't AND her lower half was reattached by Orochimaru, Karin and Suigetsu, so there was no need for her to do so.
Madara can't reattach his lower half himself. Regeneration doesn't provide the capability of reattachment. Madara would definitely need to regenerate his lower half. BTW, stop correspondingly totally different cases to prove your point. It won't help you.
Reattachment is not possible because the lower half gets completely separated in bisection. Madara regenerating is proof that he wasn't bisected.
Yes, he was in a hurry but that doesn't prove that he can attach his lower half at whim.
Plus, if Madara's body was bisected, then it should be separated they very moment Lava FRS struck him, which it didn't. His body can't separate after being pushed away from the Lava FRS. So that proves that Madara wasn't bisected, but just received a cut.
Nope. I commend FRS for how much it deserves.
LOL. When TF does being "extremely durable" mean it's completely unbreakable? PS couldn't tank those arms because they are ridiculously powerful, and they overpowered PS's defenses.
RSM Naruto didn't exactly tank chakra arms, he got pushed away. And the chakra arms Kaguya used against Naruto were 15 times inferior to the chakra arms she used against Sasuke. If you think they were the same chakra arms, you're ignorant.
You're totally in delusion. God Tree is much bigger than PS, but not more powerful. In fact, God Tree's durability sucks. You think something that got cut so easily by Sasuke's V3 Susanoo sword and Tobirama Suiton blade has higher durability than PS? I can only laugh at that. xd Cutting the God Tree wasn't impressive at all. The only reason FRS was impressive was that it cut the entire God Tree by extension.
Strictly not.
That's common scientific knowledge.
Your examples come straight out of a trash can. PS sword isn't stronger than V4 Susanoo sword because it has a greater range. It is naturally stronger than V4 sword because it belongs to a higher level of Susanoo AND it also has a greater range, which is a completely independent aspect. PS sword will be stronger regardless of whether it has a greater range or not, and having a greater range doesn't mean it is stronger.
I've already countered this above. Greater range does not come from greater power. The force per area (which is the actual power) can be same for an attack with a large range and an attack with a small range.
LMFAO. You're so delusional.
1. Hashirama's Mokuton durability >>>>> God Tree's durability. It could completely tank a full Kurama bijuudama whereas God Tree got easily cut by V3 Susanoo sword.
2. God Tree is not offensive at all. So having greater size does nothing, since it can't destroy stuff like Hashirama's Wood Golem.
3. We're talking about durability here. Not power. Greater size does not mean it has greater durability when talking about two different things.
Only in your fanfic.
That's because Hashirama's Shinsuusenju was bigger and stronger.
If the same material is bigger, then it'll have greater durability and power. If the same material is larger, then it'll have same durability and power. But if a different material is bigger or larger, then it doesn't mean it will have greater power. God Tree is made from a very weak material, it got easily cut by V3 Susanoo sword and Tobirama's Suiton blade, whereas PS is made from such a strong material that it could completely tank a bijuudama. In that case, God Tree's bigger size doesn't matter.
Of course.
Just because he didn't use RSM does not make it non-canon. Kishi said that this movie was the plot in between chapter 699 and 700, so yes, it's canon.
Exaggerating doesn't mean they're wrong. Plus, that part of the movie was logically right, as I've proved above.
