Protests Againts the World Cup

[Takure]

Protests Against the World Cup

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The Brazilian government... they spend $15 billion that they can't afford on a sports event? Why couldn't they use that money to help the people? But, instead they build a stadium and supporting infrastructure, that will be obsolete when the cup ends...

Humanity needs to get it's priorities in order. Smh. I really hope the event is shut down due to protests.

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[-Punk-]

Re: Protest Againts the World Cup

Yeah it was a mistake making it there , nothing to do now .

One more week :x3: can't wait .

 

[God Of Destruction]

Re: Protest Againts the World Cup

Yeah it was a mistake making it there , nothing to do now .

One more week :x3: can't wait .

Same here but i can't wait for FIFA world cup

 

[slimreaper]

What will make it obsolete when the cup ends? Can they not preform concerts in the stadium? That staduim can provide jobs, now and in the future. This shows how short sighted people are. They were probably wanting the 15 billion to go towards a handout

 

[Kaneki Kun]

Why do you want the protest to get to the point of shutting it down? Then all the money they wasted would be for nothing and people would still go hungry, starve, live in harsh conditions, etc regardless. So you might as well hold the biggest sporting event of the year.

 

[The7thHokage]

Yeah it was a mistake making it there , nothing to do now .

One more week :x3: can't wait .

Im excited as well, but this doesn't feel right.

 

[Takure]

What will make it obsolete when the cup ends? Can they not preform concerts in the stadium? That staduim can provide jobs, now and in the future. This shows how short sighted people are. They were probably wanting the 15 billion to go towards a handout

It's already built, so it's job creating potential is already over (mostly, apart from maintenance). I don't see how concerts help the people.

Have you seen the state of Brazil? That money could of been used some much better.

Why do you want the protest to get to the point of shutting it down? Then all the money they wasted would be for nothing and people would still go hungry, starve, live in harsh conditions, etc regardless. So you might as well hold the biggest sporting event of the year.

It's about the principle. If you allow people to walk over you, then they will continue to do so. The World Cup is huge event, the problems are massive, so why isn't here any media coverage? Simply, because people don't give a shit. The few rich people will make there money from the World Cup, whilst the poor are going to be worse off.

Humanity is sickening.

 

[-Punk-]

There's a reason why world cups are made sometimes in places like this , once it starts .....Brazil will be getting nothing but money from outsiders : Motels , hotels , bars ,restaurants etc ..........that helps the economy & from what I've heard .....it worked really well in South Africa , so it should do here .

 

[vacationheaven]

as you may also know alot benefits from the fifa world cup. im currently in doha right now and working for a construction company. alot of my countrymen are here for construction and for the development of doha qatar who will host the fifa 2022 world cup... well if we look 1 side of the coin then this will be a biased thinking and the judgement is unfair. i feed my family from the hardships that i have to endure here. being away from my son and wife. i chose to work here beause i have to. we dont have to blame everything from others, the blame start from within, from with us. why wait for others to react or take action where we can take actions now. may i just quote a famous line the song Guerilla Radio of Rage Against the Machine: " this must start somewhere, this must start somehow, What better place than here, What better time than now..." think again before you go against the world you better check with in first.

 

[slimreaper]

It's already built, so it's job creating potential is already over (mostly, apart from maintenance). I don't see how concerts help the people.

Have you seen the state of Brazil? That money could of been used some much better.

Who sells the food? who cleans up after events? Who is the security? It's not like the stadium will never be used for anything after this world cup. This staduim is more than just a one time event, it can be used to lure the biggest bands in the world. Those bands will draw a crowd willing to spend their money. That money will go right into Brazil's economy. What do you suggest they spend that money on?

 

[Takure]

Who sells the food? who cleans up after events? Who is the security? It's not like the stadium will never be used for anything after this world cup. This staduim is more than just a one time event, it can be used to lure the biggest bands in the world. Those bands will draw a crowd willing to spend their money. That money will go right into Brazil's economy. What do you suggest they spend that money on?

Infrastructure that actually benefits the people. You know, Hospitals, Schools, Roadways, Water Treatment facilities, Sewage Treatment facilities... the list goes on. Not a stadium that's going to be hardly used. Just look at the Olympic stadiums all over the world, how ofter are they used?

Sure, it'll be used occasionally, I never said it wouldn't, but for you to claim that it'll have a (long-term) positive impact on the economy is just ridiculous. The income that it'll generate is going to be negligible. Definitely no where near $16 billion in 20 years... Plus you have the Olypics in 2016 that they are planing to spend another $20 billion on... I mean, what is the point?

 

[slimreaper]

Infrastructure that actually benefits the people. You know, Hospitals, Schools, Roadways, Water Treatment facilities, Sewage Treatment facilities... the list goes on. Not a stadium that's going to be hardly used. Just look at the Olympic stadiums all over the world, how ofter are they used?

Sure, it'll be used occasionally, I never said it wouldn't, but for you to claim that it'll have a (long-term) positive impact on the economy is just ridiculous. The income that it'll generate is going to be negligible. Definitely no where near $16 billion in 20 years... Plus you have the Olypics in 2016 that they are planing to spend another $20 billion on... I mean, what is the point?

How much you wanna bet it makes double that money this year alone? Are you suggesting Brazil has no infrastructure? This things you listed are just things that suck up money, and in a few years they will be needing more. They do almost nothing positive for the economy. The money obviously needs to come from outside. How do you draw outside money? By drawing people in the country to spend their money.

 

[Sherlock.]

The govt will make a lot of money from tourism, taxes on tickets, etc. A FIFA WC is a very huge event. IMO they will get all the money back plus profits. I see it more as an investment by their govt.

 

[vacationheaven]

as i know hypothesis is not only based on one article. there must be a conclusive collection of data before we set an argument. evidence must not be from one source only... so if we base our conclusions on the article that you gave would this be enough to support your claim sir???

 

[Takure]

How much you wanna bet it makes double that money this year alone? Are you suggesting Brazil has no infrastructure? This things you listed are just things that suck up money, and in a few years they will be needing more. They do almost nothing positive for the economy. The money obviously needs to come from outside. How do you draw outside money? By drawing people in the country to spend their money.

Please back up your ridiculous claims, with actual evidence (

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). Though, I've posted enough, I'm not going to sit here and argue my point over and over. You either get it, or you don't. Though, if you're interested, I suggest you go and read the journal "Olympic Cities: Lessons Learned from Mega-Event Politics" by Greg Andranovich, Matthew J. Burbank and Charles H. Heying

The govt will make a lot of money from tourism, taxes on tickets, etc. A FIFA WC is a very huge event. IMO they will get all the money back plus profits. I see it more as an investment by their govt.

Sure, this would be true... but, then you realize that the the very idea of governments is corrupt, and that, the money will not be used for the people.

 

[slimreaper]

Please back up your ridiculous claims, with actual evidence (

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). Though, I've posted enough, I'm not going to sit here and argue my point over and over. You either get it, or you don't. Though, if you're interested, I suggest you go and read the journal "Olympic Cities: Lessons Learned from Mega-Event Politics" by Greg Andranovich, Matthew J. Burbank and Charles H. Heying



Sure, this would be true... but, then you realize that the the very idea of governments are corrupt, and that, the money will not be used for the people.

How can we possibly know how brazils economy is going to be 15 years from now? If that were the case, we would be able to predict economic dips, and compensate for them. Obviously they can't be predicted, so whats the point of the outlook? We don't even know the revenue the world cup will generate

 

[Takure]

How can we possibly know how brazils economy is going to be 15 years from now? If that were the case, we would be able to predict economic dips, and compensate for them. Obviously they can't be predicted, so whats the point of the outlook? We don't even know the revenue the world cup will generate

I've gave evidence (yes, it's not 100% reliable, but outlooks are usually pretty accurate, and a peer reviewed journal on the state of the economy after huge "Mega-Events"), to support my claims, what have you done? Nothing, but argue your strawman, which either means you're a troll and/ or that you simply don't know what you're talking about.

 

[slimreaper]

I've gave evidence (yes, it's not 100% reliable, but outlooks are usually pretty accurate, and a peer reviewed journal on the state of the economy after huge "Mega-Events"), to support my claims, what have you done? Nothing, but argue your strawman, which either means you're a troll and/ or that you simply don't know what you're talking about.

IF they are "pretty accurate" then the economy would never crash anywhere. All you have done is to say that the stadium won't help, yet you have given no alternatives that actually won't drain the F out of the economy. What do you suggest Brazil do to bolster the economy?

 

[Takure]

IF they are "pretty accurate" then the economy would never crash anywhere. All you have done is to say that the stadium won't help, yet you have given no alternatives that actually won't drain the F out of the economy. What do you suggest Brazil do to bolster the economy?

Invest in education, and health... ect. These things don't drain the economy (like whoever brainwashed you would have you believe), but in fact they support it. Better health care, means that less people are sick, which means the government spends less on keeping there population healthy, invest in education, that then supports the futures of a country because more people are better skilled. Why do you think first world countries are.... first world countries?

Are you unable to come to a conclusion on your own, or do need people to spell out for you? What ever happened to critical thinking?

Anyways, it's been fun. But I need to cook dinner. Ja ne.

FYI: Most economic crashes are done on purpose, as they allow wealthy people to turn massive profits in no time at all. I'm talking billions, and billions of dollars.

Why do you think the American government bailed out all the banks after the GFC, even though the banks were solely responsible for the whole crash?

Also, a countries budgets is based not only on past year GDP and Inflation levels, but also on an economic outlook. So yes, they are "pretty accurate".

 

[slimreaper]

Invest in education, and health... ect. These things don't drain the economy (like whoever brainwashed you would have you believe), but in fact they support it. Better health care, means that less people are sick, which means the government spends less on keeping there population healthy, invest in education, that then supports the futures of a country because more people are better skilled. Why do you think first world countries are.... first world countries?

Are you unable to come to a conclusion on your own, or do need people to spell out for you? What ever happened to critical thinking?

Anyways, it's been fun. But I need to cook dinner. Ja ne.

FYI: Most economic crashes are done on purpose, as they allow wealthy people to turn massive profits in no time at all. I'm talking billions, and billions of dollars.

Why do you think the American government bailed out all the banks after the GFC, even though the banks were solely responsible for the whole crash?

Also, a countries budgets is based not only on past year GDP and Inflation levels, but also on an economic outlook. So yes, they are "pretty accurate".

How blind you are. Invest in health and the population grows. This means there is less to go around. But whatever ill take your word for it.

Invest in education you say

[video=youtube;La3PvR6twYA]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=La3PvR6twYA[/video]

Giving money to the school doesn't mean the students are automatically going to be harvard level when they get out.

You are the typical misguided liberal, believing its on the government to save the economy and not the wealthy you so attack