Proof Totsuka Blade seals "Anything"...

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You're making no sense .

It's either the sword can seal inanimate things
Or it can't.
It has. There is no debate.
I proved that it's "it can seal anything it pierces" hype wrong. It didn't pierce the kusunagi, this means that we must take what's said with a grain of salt.

Totsuka only sealed the kusunagi/nagato's clothes because they were part of the user. It's not like totsuka created a separate world for nagato's clothes & the sword, now that would make no sense.

What I mean by my statement is that inanimate objects won't be sealed unless totsuka pierces something with a soul. & Everything that gets sealed with that person would thereby enter the same genjutsu world as them. The clothes/sword only got sealed because totsuka pierced someone with a soul at the time. if totsuka pierced a boulder then that boulder won't get sealed.

As for your second argument. I never said that's what happens. I said you're failing to consider the other options. You are the one claiming to know the mechanics of the sword through vague databook and manga descriptions and utilizing an argumentum ad ignorantiam to back it up.
All I'm doing is stating what's been given to us. You can believe that totsuka can seal rocks all you want & I won't stop you, but you told me it's a fact that totsuka can seal anything it pierces, you don't know how it works yourself so idk why you're saying that I'm using an argumentum ad ignorantiam when you aren't even considering what I'm saying..
 

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[ ] Oro was holding the sword but it still got sealed.

How does this point prove its hype wrong in any way? orochimaru was sealed, and just like nagato, everything on him or with him , everything he was holding was sealed as well.

Totsuka has sealed inanimate objects.
Totsuka can seal inanimate objects.

I don't see why this is still a debate. You're arguing it can't do something it has done.
 

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How does this point prove its hype wrong in any way? orochimaru was sealed, and just like nagato, everything on him or with him , everything he was holding was sealed as well.
This simply proves what I'm saying. First of all totsuka seals anything it pierces. Did it pierce the blade? No, so why should we believe that it can seal anything.

When something is sealed, it is only sealed with a soul, totsuka has never sealed anything without a soul so taking that fact along with how the db specifically mentions souls, we [well I] can only conclude that souls are needed in order for totsuka to seal.

Totsuka has sealed inanimate objects.
Totsuka can seal inanimate objects.
Only with souls, totsuka hasn't sealed anything without a soul.

I don't see why this is still a debate. You're arguing it can't do something it has done.
As I've said plenty of times, totsuka only seals when a soul is involved, inanimate objects that are in possession of said soul go along with it. There's a debate because you think that totsuka can seal the planet with your logic, yet there's nothing suggesting it can.
 
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Are we reading the same scans here?
Where exactly do you think the sword, nagato's clothes etc went?
Are you not getting what I'm saying?

The clothes were part of nagato, the sword was also orochimaru's.

I'm saying that if there is no soul then there is no sealing, the souls of nagato & orochimaru [when pierced] activated the seal which brought them & their possessions to a genjutsu world.

The clothes didn't end up in their own separate world, they were sealed with nagato. What you're telling me is that if nagato wasn't there then the clothes would still get sealed but there's absolutely nothing implying so, the only implication is that a soul is needed.
 

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I read somewhere that the Kusanagi counter was a mistranslation... But either way, it's still hype nonetheless. Can't put a rock in an eternal Genjutsu.
Why do you guys talk as if it's a normal sword. The genjutsu isn't normal as it's embedded inside the sword so it probably doesn't even use chakra. It seals all things it's in the manga.

so then where was it in all of his fights?
why waste chakra on chibaku tensei using an elaborate jutsu when he could have stabbed it?
why waste chakra on defence when totsuka is the only defence he will ever need?
why not just stab the webs kabuto made instead of cutting at them?

zetsu is obviosly a moron horribly exaggerating a sword hes never used himself or truly seen in action. he recounted the LEGEND attached to it.not facts.
So now Zetsu has no credibility and is a moron? Wow the bias is astounding coming from a Itachi hater nothing less expected.

Sorry but databook > Zetsu's hype & DB says that totsuka seals souls.
Zetsu's hype remains solid as it was in the actual manga. The databook simply restates or backs up data we don't know. The databook doesn't disprove Totsuka can't seal inanimate objects. The burden of proof is on you.
Cuz it's constantly sealing oxygen am I rite?

Love how you casually hopped over where it says "or so the legend goes"
The legend said it also seals souls. So I guess the legend is completely false as well right? Sealing oxygen really? Sounds like a nit-pick at trying to disprove something that has not yet.
 
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Isn't it obvious? The Totsuka has no physical form and is classified as supernatural. On top of that, it's also spiritual. From all these facts, we can logically conclude that the Totsuka can most definitely suck in and seal anything it pierces, including tangible and intangible jutsus like Chibaku Tensei, for example.
 

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no it isnt logical given it would make itachi a god which he obviously didnt think so and even the one who said everything has a weakness. if he has such an OP weapon there should have been no need for this war
So now Zetsu has no credibility and is a moron? Wow the bias is astounding coming from a Itachi hater nothing less expected.
no he doesnt. he recounted a legend. we need to hear how it works from the user to understand it.
databook contradicts itself too much
 
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