Proof: The 3rd Raikage is superior to Perfect Susanoo

[Unbiased]

Like always manga scans are used with what is stated. This isn't character bashing just proving a point. I apologize for grammatical errors and if I put hokage anywhere in this thread it's a typo and I mean raikage. I'm tired :/


1-Fact: The Third Raikage is the Strongest Raikage.

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2-Fact: His body was the ultimate defense while his hell stab was the ultimate attack. (hell stab being the ultimate attack isn't proof it can penetrate sussano.

A: Kabuto refers to it as the ultimate blade.

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B: Dodai states he had the ultimate shield and sword although the sword was stronger.

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C: Gyuki states that the TBB and Hell stab were still active when they passed out, meaning the Third Raikage got hit by a tailed beast ball and no damage occurred.

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D: Here we can see that in that battle between gyuki and the third raikage that they passed out in front of each other, further testament that he got hit head on with a TBB and received zero damage.

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Now that the Third Raikage has been explained now it's time to prove how susanoo gets penetrated.

1: Sussanoo in it's perfect form

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also got hit with a TBB

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as we can see susanoo was then used to armor the kyuubi. Meaning Sussanoo was removed and attached to the kyuubi to help him fight. Although this is somewhat due to Hashirama using wood style against the kyuubi.

Just for more added evidence. Here's another picture of perfect susanoo. (it is not stablized just like it wasn't stable in the fight against Hashirama.

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2: The destructive powers of a TBB rivals Perfect Sussano This can also be proven with the fact that Madara has stated that only a Tailed Beast destructive prowess can compete with Susanoo.

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Meaning a tailed beast ball is the only damaging jutsu outside of Hashirama's senjutsu to PS.

Now seeing how a tailed beast balls power is comparable to susanoo's destructive force, and neither PS nor the Third Raikage got damaged by a TBB, it is safe to state that the third raikages Hell stab which is stronger then his perfect body (which the body is comparable to PS seeing how they both do not take damage from TBB) can indeed penetrate Susanoo.

I'm really tired so if I say 3rd hokage on accident in this I mean raikage. Here is the general equation.

Raikage + TBB = no damage

PS + TBB = no damage

Raikage + Hell stab = damage

PS + Hell stab = damage.

Either way one thing is confirmed, that the 3rd Raikage could indeed go up and fight on par against PS. Seeing how it's destructive prowess is on par with the TBB and the third raikage can't get damaged from a TBB.

 

[asparticus]

true. but if it was a 1v1, raikage would need to attack sometime,which would be perfect time to counterattack for a susano'o user. it depends if the susano'o user knows how the hell stab and defensive armor works.

 

[The Necromancer]

Sure. It's 2am and I don't care enough to debate at all. It's well thought out, but I doubt it would hold up to scrutiny in an actual battle situation.

 

[Minator93]

To Sasuke's Susanoo - Yes

To Madara's Destruction Incarnate - NO

 

[Unbiased]

true. but if it was a 1v1, raikage would need to attack sometime,which would be perfect time to counterattack for a susano'o user. it depends if the susano'o user knows how the hell stab and defensive armor works.

The main point though is the 3rd raikage is able to keep up with PS in terms of defensive qualities and offensive. He's quite something else and very underrated.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

This thread is garbage third raikage didnt tank a tbb. If gyuuki passed out before he shot the tbb it simply popped like when kcm naruto couldnt complete it . Even if raikage was able to tank a tbb HE WOULD NOT still be lying in that same spot he wouldve been blasted away and both hachibi and raikage wouldve probably woke up from a mountain busting explosion.

 

[Sea Of Thy Soul]

Eight Tails looks unsure though. Maybe when they both passed out the Third Raikage got hit with his own move.

and i don't think he can stand a chance against ps cuz sm naruto put him to shame

 

[Unbiased]

Eight Tails looks unsure though. Maybe when they both passed out the Third Raikage got hit with his own move.

and i don't think he can stand a chance against ps cuz sm naruto put him to shame

The only reason he lost was due to hitting himself with his own attack. Even though the eight tails was unsure, needless to say, the manga states both jutsus TBB and hellstab were active. However the third raikage only got hurt by his own attack.

 

[Aya San]

Flawless logic, bravo.

 

[Gold Lightning]

I've been saying the third Raikage is top 10 worthy for a long time. He's the most powerful of the Edo Kage and very few jutsu in the manga can hurt him. I'm sure his 1 fingered hell stab can crack open must defences, including a susanoo.

People need to stop underestimating him and start putting him in the to 10. He's a superhuman ninja, stated in the manga.

 

[Mitarashi]

No he isn't.

 

[Senju Bean]

You forget, TBB from full Kurama is more power than the other 8 tailed beasts combined.

Madara tanked a Kurama TBB. Raikage didn't and probably couldn't.

 

[FlemSmack]

This was well thought out.

If the 3rd Raikage can tank TBBs than he can tank PS attacks.

If the 3rd Raikage can reach the PS with his Hell Stab there is a good chance he would pierce through, but PS has a massive advantage with its attacks being ranged.

 

[Senju Bean]

This was well thought out.

If the 3rd Raikage can tank TBBs than he can tank PS attacks.

If the 3rd Raikage can reach the PS with his Hell Stab there is a good chance he would pierce through, but PS has a massive advantage with its attacks being ranged.

No, all we know is that he could tank tailed 1-8. We don't know if he could tank a much stronger TBB from Kurama.

 

[Senju Bean]

Madara's incomplete Susanoo tanked this:

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[Guy Fawkes]

You forget, TBB from full Kurama is more power than the other 8 tailed beasts combined.

Madara tanked a Kurama TBB. Raikage didn't and probably couldn't.

I concur sir

 

[Unbiased]

Flawless logic, bravo.

Thank you. I didn't work very long on this but I see it all the time where people think PS is invincible or the 3rd raikage isn't up to par with Madara and Hashirama when in reality he's close to their level in terms of stamina and strength.

 

[Gold Lightning]

3rd raikage isn't up to par with Madara and Hashirama when in reality he's close to their level in terms of stamina and strength.

Completely agree, he'd give madara and Hashirama a hard time.

 

[AnimusOra]

this is a great thread. I get what your saying that Raikage could break apart Perfect Susanoo, however it still does not mean that he could defeat Madara alive in the past, Edo form or currently. Just because you can destroy or survive Perfect Susanoo does not mean that you have defeated Madara. So far the top two most knowledgeable characters in the Naruto Universe are Madara and Orochimaru. They have both surpased the test of time. With that being said the 3rd would have definetly put up a great fight. But sadly he would still lose. Also if what I understand from you the 3rd's Sword is equal to the TBB as Madaras Sword is eqaul to the TBB as well. By that it means Madara could easily stab the 3rd and pierce his armor if the 3rd pierced his own

 

[Senju Bean]

It takes one Shinjusenju arm to cancel out with a Kurama TBB equipped with a PS sword. This means one Sjinjusenju punch packs at least as much impact as a TBB. However it took thousands of these punches to destroy PS.

This means that PS can easily take thousands of TBB before breaking down.

3rd Raikage can't match.