Proof that the long-haired masked guy was Obito (Tobi) ~

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Read the whole thing it will clear some things for you.



As people have pointed out, he has the same hairstyle as Madara. Okay, well, so what?

Now that that's out of the way, people are saying that LHG had the same pose Madara usually has. While this is true, it doesn't prevail over the fact that There is also the fact that Sure, that is a color cover page, but it is also Kishi showing that Obito favors this pose at times as well. He also does it

Now, for those of you who still claim that LHG is Madara, how Why is this important, you ask? When LHG opens his right eye, there is a focus on it, and Kisame says "That eye... shining in the darkness..." Now do you get it? Eye, not eyes. Why would there be such a focus on his right eye if he was not Obito? There would have been no need for this with Madara. There's also the fact that he wore an orange (a color that Obito favors) one eye-holed mask. If he were truly Madara, why show only the right eye? Kisame also seems to imply that the only eye LHG has is his right one (Yes, I'm perfectly aware of Obito's lab full of sharingan, but nothing says that he always had one implanted).

Also, Madara's hair covers his right eye, and we just saw LHG open his right eye. If we are under the assumption that Madara never cut his hair again then this wouldn't make sense. And it would be pretty pointless to just say Madara cut that piece of hair off just for lulz.

Now, for complete and utter proof that LHG is Obito. Look at and

When Kisame meets the Long-Haired Guy said:
I see... So you are the real "Fourth Mizukage"... You've been controlling the Fourth with that Sharingan all this time...
Kisame when Obito takes off his mask said:
...Well that's interesting. I never would have suspected you were Tobi. I'm relieved... It will be easier for me to do my work with you pulling the strings. Mizukage... I mean, Madara.
Kisame recognized Obito as the same person who he had seen controlling Yagura.

Now, people say that Madara simply could have used the Rinnegan to rejuvenate himself, like Nagato did. Well, Nagato simply restored his body to it's natural state, before the Gedo Mazou ****ed him up. So, he was not technically old. Madara, however, was.

Even if for some reason, it is still believed that Madara got black hair again, that is still a pointless argument. Back when Obito was posing as Madara, people were perfectly willing to believe that he was an old ass 100 year old Madara, even with pitch black hair. So, why give the real Madara white hair in old age unless just to sybolize that he is very old? It would be completely useless if he really was LHG.

Now, I know people will try to argue "But Obito couldn't have been controlling Yagura and started the Bloody Mist! He was too young! " This is true, however, there is not a panel showing Obito starting the Bloody Mist. Only some showing him controlling Yagura when he met Kisame, and Obito and Kisame are the same age so Obito would have been an adult at that time.

That said, it is entirely possible for Madara to have simply started the Bloody Mist and then handed the reigns over to Obito.

Also, in case you didn't know, Kishi likes to use horoscopes that apply to birthdays for his characters. All of the things applied to Obito's birthday (February 10th) match Obito perfectly, and there's one that says "carrying the water". If Obito was "Mizukage" for a time, he'd, in a sense be "carrying the water".

For those who are wondering why Obito would grow his hair out to Madara length, and then cut it again, here's a possible explanation. Obito's hair just grew over time, obviously. He also used it to make his posing as Madara more convincing. Now, when he joined Akatsuki, he probably cut it because he was about to act like a total idiot. Notice how he changed his mask and outfit too.

Now, I suppose your next question will be "Well, what would be the point of Kishi having him grow his hair out that long and then cut it again? Why not just have him keep the same hairstyle?" Well, Choji's hair grew out long. This symbolized his growth. Obito growing his hair to be like Madara's could symbolize that he had become a little like Madara.

Also, the whole thing going on in Kisame's flashback, especially when he met LHG, was about the world being full of lies. And he remarked on this when he found out LHG was controlling Yagura. Now, what is Obito known to do? Lie.

Feel free to present your arguments for LHG not being Obito. I'll give explanations/possible explanations and add them to the OP.

And for the people who choose "No" or "I still think he's Madara" and then just leave the thread without giving reasons why, I'll just assume that means you're butthurt and in denial.
 
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Read the whole thing it will clear some things for you. ;)



As people have pointed out, he has the same hairstyle as Madara. Okay, well, so what?

Now that that's out of the way, people are saying that LHG had the same pose Madara usually has. While this is true, it doesn't prevail over the fact that There is also the fact that Sure, that is a color cover page, but it is also Kishi showing that Obito favors this pose at times as well. He also does it

Now, for those of you who still claim that LHG is Madara, how Why is this important, you ask? When LHG opens his right eye, there is a focus on it, and Kisame says "That eye... shining in the darkness..." Now do you get it? Eye, not eyes. Why would there be such a focus on his right eye if he was not Obito? There would have been no need for this with Madara. There's also the fact that he wore an orange (a color that Obito favors) one eye-holed mask. If he were truly Madara, why show only the right eye? Kisame also seems to imply that the only eye LHG has is his right one (Yes, I'm perfectly aware of Obito's lab full of sharingan, but nothing says that he always had one implanted).

Also, Madara's hair covers his right eye, and we just saw LHG open his right eye. If we are under the assumption that Madara never cut his hair again then this wouldn't make sense. And it would be pretty pointless to just say Madara cut that piece of hair off just for lulz.

Now, for complete and utter proof that LHG is Obito. Look at and



Kisame recognized Obito as the same person who he had seen controlling Yagura.

Now, people say that Madara simply could have used the Rinnegan to rejuvenate himself, like Nagato did. Well, Nagato simply restored his body to it's natural state, before the Gedo Mazou ****ed him up. So, he was not technically old. Madara, however, was.

Even if for some reason, it is still believed that Madara got black hair again, that is still a pointless argument. Back when Obito was posing as Madara, people were perfectly willing to believe that he was an old ass 100 year old Madara, even with pitch black hair. So, why give the real Madara white hair in old age unless just to sybolize that he is very old? It would be completely useless if he really was LHG.

Now, I know people will try to argue "But Obito couldn't have been controlling Yagura and started the Bloody Mist! He was too young! " This is true, however, there is not a panel showing Obito starting the Bloody Mist. Only some showing him controlling Yagura when he met Kisame, and Obito and Kisame are the same age so Obito would have been an adult at that time.

That said, it is entirely possible for Madara to have simply started the Bloody Mist and then handed the reigns over to Obito.

Also, in case you didn't know, Kishi likes to use horoscopes that apply to birthdays for his characters. All of the things applied to Obito's birthday (February 10th) match Obito perfectly, and there's one that says "carrying the water". If Obito was "Mizukage" for a time, he'd, in a sense be "carrying the water".

For those who are wondering why Obito would grow his hair out to Madara length, and then cut it again, here's a possible explanation. Obito's hair just grew over time, obviously. He also used it to make his posing as Madara more convincing. Now, when he joined Akatsuki, he probably cut it because he was about to act like a total idiot. Notice how he changed his mask and outfit too.

Now, I suppose your next question will be "Well, what would be the point of Kishi having him grow his hair out that long and then cut it again? Why not just have him keep the same hairstyle?" Well, Choji's hair grew out long. This symbolized his growth. Obito growing his hair to be like Madara's could symbolize that he had become a little like Madara.

Also, the whole thing going on in Kisame's flashback, especially when he met LHG, was about the world being full of lies. And he remarked on this when he found out LHG was controlling Yagura. Now, what is Obito known to do? Lie.

Feel free to present your arguments for LHG not being Obito. I'll give explanations/possible explanations and add them to the OP.

And for the people who choose "No" or "I still think he's Madara" and then just leave the thread without giving reasons why, I'll just assume that means you're butthurt and in denial.
this is intresting . give me a second to read
 

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when he found obito his hair was white and long
when he found kisame it was long and black it was probably madara because madara was using genjutsu
when obito attacked minato his hair was short it was probably obito
but when he helped itachi his hair was long again it was probably madara because of his grudge
maybe madara used preta path like nagato
 

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Well thread like this can be right or wrong. Lets just wait for the right time for the secrets to be unveiled by kishi himself. Meantime, i agree with you man. He's got to be obito with some madara skills passed on to him that's why he is strong at such a young age.
 

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Well thread like this can be right or wrong. Lets just wait for the right time for the secrets to be unveiled by kishi himself. Meantime, i agree with you man. He's got to be obito with some madara skills passed on to him that's why he is strong at such a young age.
Well from the Last chapter we have seen that ..
..Madara was the one who saved him , and he was probably the one who trained him too soo ..
 
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