Proof that Sasori + Third Raikage > Orochimaru and Gaara (Actual Explanation Inside)

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Proof that Sasori + Third Raikage > Orochimaru and Gaara (Actual Explanation Inside)

Team Raikage vs Team Kazekage

As with my previous threads is a new variation in my Kage vs Kage Threads by including any shinobi that are Akatsuki or Jinchurikis and pairing them with a Kages/Sannins to create more diversity and strategic play in fights.

This is a thread highlighting the strength of Sasori and the Third Raikage but unlike my other threads it has no bias, and is therefore showing why either team could win. Simply you just ignore the title as I wrote it that way for people to recognize it was one of my threads.

Sasori's Abilites

Powerful Fire Release Techniques
Scrolls on Sasori's back allowed him to shoot powerful streams of fire whilst in his "Human Puppet" Form. This gave him a long range alternative to bombarding the opponent with a hundred puppets all at once, meaning they would also have to dodge fast moving superheated streams of fire along with the impending threat of being cut by the poisoned puppets meaning even a light scratch or stumble would indeed prove to be fatal.

Combined with the Third Raikage's raw speed and durability both Orochimaru and Gaara would have a lot to dodge/defend against including short range assaults from the Third Raikage, mid range attacks from the 100 puppet army and long range offensives of powerful fire and lightning projectiles from Sasori and the Raikage.

This could also act as a counter to Orochimaru's Wind Release Techniques that would be used against the Third Raikage's Lighting Release armour to give it the overall effect of both neutralizing Orochimaru's assualt and strengthening Sasori's own streams of fire.

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Third Kazekage Puppet - Iron Sand Kekkei Genkai
Sasori's favourite and most commonly used puppet was his Third Kazekage one which retained its one of a kind Magnet Release ability used to manipulate Iron Sand.

Sasori's Iron sand means that he would be able to defend against Orochimaru's Wind Techs as well as have a superior version of Gaara's ordinary sand excluding its unique ability of a Ultimate Sand Defense.

The Third Raikage can also use his lightning projectiles in combination with Sasori's iron sand to conduct electricity and electrocute Gaara and Orochimaru. Sasori could also combine his powerful streams of fire with his own Iron Sand to conduct heat along it and burn both his opponents if they are on the ground. Also due to it not being a direct attack but rather a change of terrain Gaara's Ultimate Sand Defense shouldn't react to it.

Hiruko - Scorpion Puppet Armour
Hiruko was a puppet worn by Sasori for the majority of the time which he used as a armour and a weapon. This eliminated the biggest weakness of a puppet user as Sasori was no longer physically separated by his puppet meaning the opponent doesn't attack him (the puppet user) but instead has to combat him directly (in his puppet Armour.

This could be used as a alternative fighting style for Sasori in the beginning of the fight and changing mid way through the fight causing Orochimaru and Gaara having to suddenly adapt to the drastic change in fighting style.

298 Human Puppet Inventory

Sasori had a collection of over 200 Puppets made of deceased and very skilled Shinobi, the seem to still posses their abilities as shown through the Third Kazekage retaining both his Kekkei Genkai Magnet Release and his Iron Sand.

Through this he could gain the elemental advantage for his team as he and the Third Raikage already possessed Lightning and Fire but could obtain Gaara's natural weakness of water or something similar by using one of his water style human puppets.

Lethal Poisoned Weapons
Sasori had poisoned everything in his inventory meaning one scratch would first immobilize you and fully kill you within three days. The nature of weapons went from normal combat to a state of lethality similar to Hidan as exposing a wound through a cut meant that the posion would seep through thus killing you, it was this that made Sasori's fighting style so dangerous to combat because false moves and mistakes meant certain death.

However Orochimaru's increased resistance to Poison and Gaara's ultimate sand defense means that death through poison may not be a option.

Red Secret Technique: Performance of 100 Puppets
By making his body into a "Human Puppet" Sasori only has a small living core inside a Puppet Body in the image of himself. Inside his chest he has a hundred chakra strings which control one hundred puppet all simultaneously. With this he can overwhelm his opponent by controlling them in such a way where it is impossible to dodge. Also because the puppets are directly linked to him there is no response lag in between the command input and the puppet's response.

Sasori's 100 Puppet army could be used to overwhelm Gaara's Ultimate Sand Defense due to the multiple directions they can attacks from as well as the sheer number of simultaneous assaults being made on him.

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Third Raikage's Abilities

-Lightning Release Armour
The Third Raikage covers his body in a layer of lightning chakra that, instead of being used offensively, is used to electrically stimulate the user's nervous system. The technique speeds up neural synapses to react faster to danger and to push physical prowess to the absolute limit, allowing for tremendous raw speed.

It can be used both offensively and defensively in the sense that it would electrocute Gaara or Orochimaru if they try to attack or are attacked by the Third Raikage directly.

It also makes the Third Raikage reach a level of inhumane speed which can only be paralleled by mastery of the Space Time Ninjutsu on the level of Minato who could travel and teleport instantaneously. With this level of his speed he could overwhelm Gaara's Ultimate Sand Defense by landing a successful hit before it has a chance to react or landing a devastating blow on Orochimaru without giving time to react.

This gives him a immense speed advantage over almost every Shinobi except Minato) and strengthens Taijutsu to such a level it is considered a hybrid between Ninjutsu and Taijutsu, Nintaijutsu.

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-Ultimate Armour and Extreme Durability
He was renowned for his tremendous level of durability so much so that his body gained the name the strongest shield because it could withstand any type of technique. The only attack that was strong enough to injure him was his own, which left a scar on his chest. This is supported by the fact he tanked a Wind Style Rasen Shuriken even without his Lightning Release armour, not to mention being weak against the Wind Element.

This would be essential against Gaara's Sand Prison crushing or Orochimaru's Summon of Manda and transformation into the Eight Headed Snake. Also this means he is able to attack at the same time as Sasori without worrying about being harmed e.g. pursuing the enemy while they evade Iron Sand World Order or fighting as a part of Sasori's 100 Puppet army.

-Hell Stab Technique
The Third Raikage can use a technique similar to the Chidori he can focus his lightning chakra into his fingers, creating a strong piercing effect and can make the piercing effect even more powerful by focusing the lightning chakra by reducing the number of fingers used. The fact that the attack is more concentrated means that is a far stronger Chidori and is shown to even break through the combined strongest barrier used by the Allied Shinobi Force.

This can be used to pierce or severely weaken Gaara's Ultimate Sand Defense which could create a opening for Sasori to land at least one successful hit laced with poison causing the odds to become 2 vs 1. It can also be used as a deadly offensive against Manda (Oro's Summon) or even his Eight Headed Snake Transformation to decapitate it multiple times similar to how he cut off the Hachibi's Tails.

Sealing Pot - Kohaku no Jōhei
This was a large sealing pot used by the Third Raikage which sealed the target if they responded when called by the wielder of the pot.

This could act as one the Raikage's counters to Orochimaru summoning Manda or even sealing Orochimaru's Eight Headed Snake in the gourd in a similar way to the Itachi vs Orochimaru fight.

-Black Lightning Panther
Not much is known of this accept that is a very advanced version of lightning release techniques and it is black in colour. The exclusivity of the technique suggest its rarity and power.

It can be used as a long range offensive against Orochimaru and Gaara as well as being used as a method to conduct electricity along Sasori's Iron Sand to indirectly electrocute the enemy.

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Orochimaru's Abilities

-Snake Summons: Manda the Serpent
Orochimaru was able to make many snake related summons but his signature was a colossal serpent known as Manda. Manda was extremely fast, as a snake had the natural ability to constrict things and also had the ability to travel underground. Its body is sturdy enough to withstand Deidara's C0 Suicidal bomb meaning it would be durable enough to act as a shield for Orochimaru and Gaara while they hide in its mouth for protection.

This could be used as a defensive offense against Sasori and the Third Raikage by hiding in Manda's mouth, burrowing underground and springing a surprise attack from any direction against the two.

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-Formation of 10000 Snake Army
Orochimaru uses this technique to expel ten thousand snakes from his mouth which bury the opponent in a mass of creatures. They can also link together to withstand almost any type of attack, the retractable poisoned kusagni in their mouths gives them even more utility as they are able to kill the opponent with as little as one stab.

This would act as Orochimaru's penultimate trump card in the fight with Sasori and the Third Raikage as he could use it as a perfect defense from hell stab and the 100 puppet army as well as bury and/or restrain his opponents to deliver a finishing blow against the Raikage and stab Sasori's living core.

-Snake Skin Shedding and Immunity to Poisons
Orochimaru's countless modifications to his body mean that he could gain many physical advantages in fight. His snake skin shedding meant that if he would sustain massive damage from a attack or he didn't have time to avoid it he could shed his skin restoring any previous injuries at the cost of a substantial amount of chakra.

Orochimaru also had a known immunity to almost all poisons and probably developed a resistance to Sasori's poisons being his previous partner in akatsuki. This means that in this fight death by one successful hit from Sasori is a very unlikely option.

His gathering of the snakes technique also meant that if he was to lose a limb or be bisected he could reattach it before it fell off with a branch of interconnected snakes.

-White Snake Transformation v1
Orochimaru can also transform into a giant white snake composed countless smaller ones which can attack or bind the opponent individually while still attached to his body. Once the smaller snakes are killed they release poisonous blood which then evaporates and causes anyone who inhales it to be paralyzed.

This could be used as a sneaky offensive against the Third Raikage as physically getting through his armour is close to impossible so attacking him internally is a much better option. However Sasori being a human puppet would be unaffected by the volatile poison in the air due to him not needing to breathe.

-Eight Headed Snake Transformation v2
This is Orochimaru's trump card in this fight to rival the strength of the Third Raikage. He turns himself into a massive white snake with eight heads and tails in a size greater than that of even Manda. When using this technique Orochimaru is also able to emerge from the mouth of one of the snakes, not to mention he also rivaled the strength of Itachi's Susanno meaning this transformation gives him the ability to reach the levels of strength of that of a tailed beast.

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Fifth Kazekage's Abilities

-Large Scale Sand Release Techniques
Gaara can control immense amounts of sand to be used for both offensive and defensive purposes. The offensive capabilities for his sand are seemingly infinite able to be used to capture the opponent in a Sand Prison, crush them in a sand tsunami, projectiles made of sand and to form body parts made out of sand e.g. a arm used to grab the opponent. This gives Gaara's sand so much versatility able to go from a solid defense to an all out offense.

This would be useful in overwhelming Sasori and the Raikage with the sheer range of his techniques causing them to be buried in a mass of sand to set up for being caught in a sand prison and burial.

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-Sand Clones and Versatility of Sand Release
Gaara is also able to create clones made of sand to assist him in battle. This would make it so that the odds become a bit more equal when facing Sasori's
one hundred puppet army and could with their combined efforts create a defensive wall to hold them back.

Gaara's sand release is one of the most versatile elements being able to be used for multiple things e.g. a armour of sand, imprisonment/burial techniques and large scale attacks to physically overwhelm the opponent.

-Flying: Desert Suspension
Gaara can use sand as a platform, to allow himself and others to float in the air. This allows him to have a safe distance from both Sasori and the Third Raikage while also being able to provide aerial and defensive support for Orochimaru. He can also elevate Orochimaru so they can both attack continuously from above with sand and snakes while also being out of range from the majority of their jutsus.

-Sensory Sand Capabilities
Gaara's sand also has unique sensory abilities able to sense someone when they come into physical contact with it. Paving the terrain in a thin layer of sand would greatly allow Gaara to combat the Third Raikage's body flicker technique by being able to detect him without being to physically see him. It would also be useful against sneak attacks as he can continously detect the enemy's presence. A continuous Sand Drizzle could act as sensor sand in the air meaning even if they aren't physically on the ground they can be detected by Gaara.


-Ultimate Sand Defense and Sand Armour

Gaara can also deploy an automatic sand shield that surrounds and protects him from damage whether he wants it to or not. Gaara can control the shield to a certain extent with the ability to strengthen it to steel-like quality or utilizing it in such a way to completely encase himself. This is arguably Gaara's greatest tech as his stationary style of fighting is composed mostly of being defensive and then going for a sudden offense.

This would cause the enemy team severe difficultly to land a successful hit without Gaara even trying to evade/defend against their attacks. However Sasori could overwhelm his Sand defense with his 100 Puppet army due to a hundred attacks each time which can be sent from every direction.

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Elemental Strengths and Weaknesses of the Third Raikage's Lightning Release Armour

Strengthened by Water techniques due to it being a natural and very efficient conductor of electricity resulting in a more efficient conduction between electrical synapses causing an overall boost in both speed and strength.

Immunity to Earth techniques due to being conducted along it and the heat of the armour may even disintegrate it when they come into contact.

Immunity to Lightning techniques as they would have no substantial effect on it except maybe strengthening the armour due to more electrical energy being input.

Immunity to Pseudo Elements as it would demagnetize any metal based element and turn clay related techniques (mainly bombs) into useless duds.

Weakness to Fire techniques as they cause increased electrical resistance preventing efficient conduction and a lower overall quality of the armour meaning with increased intensity of heat means a drop in the Raikage's enhanced speed and strength.

Severe Weakness to Wind and Oil techniques as they act as a natural insulators meaning the lightning can't even be conducted resulting in a inability to use the armour.

Combined Tactics for Sasori and the Third Raikage

-Attaching Chakra Puppet Strings to Third Raikage
Sasori could attach chakra puppet strings similar to how Chiyo did with Sakura meaning the Third Raikage becomes a sentient puppet who possesses a pseudo shared field of vision with Sasori meaning he can react to close range attacks himself or react to attacks from blind spots with the aid of Sasori from a distance.

It also means that Sasori possess a extremely fast and durable puppet which can tank all of the attacks from Orochimaru and Gaara as well as the Third Raikage being able to avoid all sneak attacks from his blind spots.

-Aerial and Distance Support of 100 Puppets
Sasori can also support the Third Raikage from the skies by combating an airborne Gaara with his 100 Puppet army while he fights Orochimaru on the ground.

Alternatively he can also let the Third Raikage board the collective 100 Puppets to achieve a pseudo form of flight which would make fighting an airborne Gaara far simpler, it could also aid him when fighting Manda and Orochimaru's Eight Headed Snake Transformation.

-Iron Sand World Order + Black Lightning Electrocution
Sasori and the Third Raikage can also use a combined attack including both of their ultimate jutsus to create a devastating effect. Sasori's can use his World Order technique to create random branching spikes out of a massive iron sand structure then combine it with the Third Raikage's Black Lightning panther to conduct electricity along the entirety of the structure and electrocute anyone who touches any part of it.

Also the black lightning would eventually demagnetize the structure causing a mass of electrified poison soaked iron sand would fall on anyone below which can give the technique three different purposes which include: poisoning the opponent, electrocution and a iron sand burial.

-Final Resort: Third Raikage + 100 Puppets Swarm Assault​
This can be used as a final resort by Sasori and the Third Raikage in a last ditch effort to win the match regardless of the circumstance they are in. Sasori can unleash his puppet army of 100 who all possess poisoned weapons along with the Third Raikage joining the swarm with his lightning release armour activated.

With this they can overwhelm Gaara's Ultimate Sand Defense which would be incapable of defending against 101 simultaneous attacks from multiple different directions. Due to the lethality of Sasori's poison and the Third Raikage's strength even as little as one successful attacks breaking through Gaara's defense would prove to be fatal.

Combined with Sasori's streams of fire it could be used as a fatal combination against Orochimaru due to snakes natural weakness to intense heats could be used to have the overall effect of being able to create a opening for the Third Raikage to land a lethal hit as the 100 puppet army can be used to mask his movements.

Combined Tactics for Orochimaru and the Fifth Kazekage​

-Sand covered Terrain + Snake Underground Burrowing
Gaara can use a fairly large scale sand technique for the double purpose of attacking the opponent and covering the terrain in sand. This would allow him to sense Sasori and the Third Raikage wherever they are so he can still know where the Third Raikage is even when he's travelling at speeds too difficult to see.

Orochimaru can also use a sand covered terrain to his advantage as both his snakes and him in his White Snake Transformation would be able to utilize the sand through underground burrowing allowing for sneak attacks and a quick escape from Sasori's 100 puppet army.

-Insulation against Heated/Charged attacks(Lightning and Fire)
Gaara can also help Orochimaru defensively by covering his weaknesses to heat based attacks in his snake form. With his sand Gaara is able to insulate against the heat created by Sasori's streams of fire and the Third Raikage's lightning. He can also protect Orochimaru's summon Manda and any snake related transformation/summon that Orochimaru may perform.

-Defensive Capabilities: Ultimate Sand Defense + Snake Shedding
Both Gaara and Orochimaru have the fighting style suited to combat Sasori and the Third Raikage heavily offensive combat style which strive for one hit K.Os through the use of poison or sheer brute force. However there one hit K.Os won't be enough in this fight due to Orochimaru and Gaara possessing their own unique defenses.

Gaara's Ultimate Sand Defense is a involuntary and instantaneous protection from anything that would cause him harm meaning he can be protected against the Third Raikage's almost impossible to evade assaults and Sasori's sneak attacks which would be fatal and impossible to anticipate due to the intricacy of the design of his puppets.

Orochimaru's Snake Skin Shedding means that he is able to avoid damage from hits that would cause massive injuries or attacks that are impossible to evade. Both his clothes and injuries are fully restored at the cost of a huge amount chakra meaning its a method only to be used to escape highly damaging or fatal hits from the Third Raikage. Also due to his immunity/extremely high resistance to poisons means that Sasori's main offensive isn't much of a threat to him.

-Final Resort: Desert Suspension + Snake Rain Tsunami​
Gaara can use his Desert Suspension in a similar style to how he did in the Kimimaro fight to elevate himself and Orochimaru into the air. From that range Gaara can use Sand Tsunmai to create a immense amount of sand to crush/restrain Sasori and the Third Raikage in.

Even if they manage the first wave of this combination attack Orochimaru can a rain down 10000 snakes which would be almost impossible to dodge due to the sheer range of the technique which would bury them in a mass of poisonous creatures. However due to the Sasori being a puppet and the Raikage being too durable neither would be poisoned by the snakes.

The snakes can also burrow into the now snake covered terrain to act as a permanent defense whilst also being to overwhelm them with sneak attacks from all directions due to there being 10000 snakes.
 

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Re: Proof that Sasori + Third Raikage > Orochimaru and Gaara (Actual Explanation Insi

This is pretty awesome :D
People tend to underestimate my boy Sasori ;)
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*BTW Sasori has an estimated number of 300 puppets in his arsenal, his 100 puppets technique grew alot but the name never changed, which makes this combo even deadlier.
 
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Re: Proof that Sasori + Third Raikage > Orochimaru and Gaara (Actual Explanation Insi

Holy crap this was really well made. I love Gaara and Oro but i totally agree. +rep
 

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Re: Proof that Sasori + Third Raikage > Orochimaru and Gaara (Actual Explanation Insi

Tbh I think 3. Raikage can solo, but good explained as always
 

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Re: Proof that Sasori + Third Raikage > Orochimaru and Gaara (Actual Explanation Insi

as usual great thread
personally i think the 3rd could solo because hes like indestructable
(+rep for all your hard work) :)
 

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Re: Proof that Sasori + Third Raikage > Orochimaru and Gaara (Actual Explanation Insi

I'm sorry not at work so that was just to damn much to read. Even with the pictures to help my mind just blanked out.
 

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Re: Proof that Sasori + Third Raikage > Orochimaru and Gaara (Actual Explanation Insi

Very, very well made (as always). I wish I could lean towards Orochimaru and Gaara for obvious reasons, but I can't. 3rd Raikage and Sasori are just an overwhelming team. Orochimaru would have to shed his skin multiple times and his chakra would eventually give out. And because dying is the last thing he wants he'd probably bail out and leave Gaara alone xd
Anyway, I give it to Sasori and 3rd Raikage high dif.
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Re: Proof that Sasori + Third Raikage > Orochimaru and Gaara (Actual Explanation Insi

Good to have you back bro, I've missed these threads. In this case, I think Sasori and the Third Raikage take this. Sasori can use the iron sand, and if gold dust had the advantage because of its weight, iron sand will too. Although, Gaara may be more skilled with it, that in conjuction with the Raikage's lighting will be too much IMO. All of these characters have insane defences so it will be a hard fought match but a combination of the Raikage's strength and stamina and the sheer range of different tricks have, team Raikage takes this IMO.
 
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