[Proof] Sasuke may be right.

[Glad Of War]

Thing is Madara had the people as the virus since it was people who took chakra that was suppose to connect people and they used it to fight instead. It was people who saw the Bijuus as nothing but weapons when they only wanted to be left alone and caused the Bijuus to hate Humans. Obito, Madara, and Kaguya's plan was aimed at the people not the Bijuus; Sasuke is only blaming them for what others made them do. As for the Kages, he wants to take them out for what the old Kages have done, he doesn't know anything about the bad stuff some of the Kages (A and Oonoki) did nor does he care that they want to change how they did things and try to change the system.

Also the Kages don't have the actual power, the feudal lords do. The lords all rule their respective nation (wind, fire, lightning, rock, mist). The villages are just the largest ones in their nations, there are other villages that are all under the lords rule. When a Kage gets elected the council nominates people and The Lord picks amongst them. We see the lords all talk about rather they agree about the Alliance even after the Kages agreed on it.

Agreed Mate.
I should ave thought of that.
Humans really are the virus.. If they hadn't picture the tail beast as force of weapons Maybe NV'd been a better place!

 

[Glad Of War]

That's actually false also. If there is a leader, or any form of institution (governmental system) then there has to be some form of cooperation. Politics is something too broad to be narrowed down to 1 perspective, when everything in politics has been influenced or acted upon by various perspectives.



I would like to add that there was war prior to the tailed beasts, and I really can't see how killing/sealing them will change anything; ironically enough there was war prior to ninjas having chakra.

^^ That's why I think Sasuke approach may be right.

 

[JustAnObserver]

I would like to add that there was war prior to the tailed beasts, and I really can't see how killing/sealing them will change anything; ironically enough there was war prior to ninjas having chakra.

^This x999999.
sasuke has been kind of a nut ever since he got his revenge. not very logical.

 

[Glad Of War]

^^^^^^^this.

Your analogies are ridiculously wrong. Kages are "unwanted files?" Only unwanted by suckske. Their respective people who elected them love and admire their kages.

Tailed beasts are more analogous to wild animals in a zoo. You don't blame a zoo animal if a person torments them to rage. They should have been left alone in the first place, not trapped and abused.

Naruto has tamed those animals and wants to leave them to live in peace.

Suckske on the other hand is a cancer. That cancer is called dictatorship. He wants to force his view and control on everyone and everything.

Cut out the cancer and NV would be a happier place.

Why don't you try & reason this properly and stop Fanboyism.
Maybe you might come to a reasonable conclusion/reply.

 

[V h o]

^^ That's why I think Sasuke approach may be right.

I can't see Sasuke's approach being even remotely right, since no one is following behind him. It's basically him deeming what he thinks is wrong, and applying his belief onto the world. I dare say it shows what happens when too much power is in 1 person's hands.

 

[xxSAGExx]

Agreed Mate.
I should ave thought of that.
Humans really are the virus.. If they hadn't picture the tail beast as force of weapons Maybe NV'd been a better place!

Yeah, it's like the saying goes "guns don't kill people, people kill people." I think Naruto and Sasuke need to combine their views since Sasuke is Yin and Naruto is the Yang but Sasuke have to be more open to others. Naruto's way is about understanding others so he will try to compromise but it can't be anything forceful but I think Sasuke can still come up with rules and regulations along with Naruto and the Kages+Fuedal lords.

If you think about it Hiruzen=Naruto and Danzo=Sasuke in how they handle things and Tobirama wanted them to work together for the best of the village but they didn't so Naruto and Sasuke actually working together would be how they surpass the old generations. Was Hashirama/Madara, Hiruzen/Danzo, Jiraiya/Orochimaru (they had different views), Kakashi/Obito, Naruto/Sasuke.

 

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Update: Danzō 2.0​

 

[Glad Of War]

I can't see Sasuke's approach being even remotely right, since no one is following behind him. It's basically him deeming what he thinks is wrong, and applying his belief onto the world. I dare say it shows what happens when too much power is in 1 person's hands.

At least it's better than Naruto approach.
Considering his predecessor Asura & Hashirama failed.

 

[xxSAGExx]

At least it's better than Naruto approach.
Considering his predecessor Asura & Hashirama failed.

Too be fair BZ was behind the scene manipulating things so Indra's reincarnations would one day revive Kaguya so remove BZ and it may have worked.

 

[V h o]

At least it's better than Naruto approach.
Considering his predecessor Asura & Hashirama failed.

How did it fail? Hashirama established a method where children and ninjas in general would not die at young ages, that they would have longer, enjoyable lives. As I said before war was even before chakra, so 1 generation will not stop that. Ironically enough, Hashirama's generation made it possible for what is happening today; the SA.

 

[Angelic.]

i got a virus. bijuu arent responsible, bz and human nature is. hashis dream is still working for realistic purposes. why does sasuke think he can supress all war? just like kaguya.

 

[Honord Sage]

Sasuke was never made to be right about anything.He was create to be wrong in His thinking and actions so you could see Sasuke the wrong next to Naruto the Right.

 

[Megatolium]

I think it's a good idea, but his system will destroy what it means to be shinobi.

It's going to be Uchiha Government vs Rebels.
It's like the samurai era all over again.

 

[WarriorStormMan]

His intentions may be right and good, but the way he is trying to execute his intentions, IMO, are wrong because they involve killing people (the Kage). It is this killing that will breed new hatred, thus starting the cycle all over again.

 

[Glad Of War]

How did it fail? Hashirama established a method where children and ninjas in general would not die at young ages, that they would have longer, enjoyable lives. As I said before war was even before chakra, so 1 generation will not stop that. Ironically enough, Hashirama's generation made it possible for what is happening today; the SA.

Hashirama had a good idea but unfortunately more war was created..
Especially when he captured the Tail Beast and shared between nations.

 

[V h o]

Hashirama had a good idea but unfortunately more war was created..
Especially when he captured the Tail Beast and shared between nations.

Still less war than the previous generation, which shows progress of his village idea.

 

[TrollKing]

Still less war than the previous generation, which shows progress of his village idea.

Of course, because they massacred LOTS of people not too long ago Lol

 

[V h o]

Of course, because they massacred LOTS of people not too long ago Lol

Or people were tired of war.....

Era of warring states =/= Hashirama's village era..

 

[TrollKing]

Or people were tired of war.....

Era of warring states =/= Hashirama's village era..

Of course you can say they are tired, because they just killed all the Jews(literally), so they have to enjoy the short peace while they can

 

[V h o]

Of course you can say they are tired, because they just killed all the Jews(literally), so they have to enjoy the short peace while they can

Yes and? I don't know why people want to blame Hashirama and Ashura for everyone as if they can control human nature. Meanwhile both or at least Hashirama made life better for people.