proof madara can use izanagi and izanami wirhout losing his light

[Kristjan]

idk maybe if madara can use izangi when kabuto releases edo tensei he can cast izangi on himself to not be deactivated hence breaking out of edo tensei so we can keep the war going on for a while since idont think madara should die by being cancelled

he cant break out of edo tensei where to you get that ?

 

[Davemac90]

I believe your theory about izanagi,but I think izanami was invented by itachi.

No Izanami as well as Izanagi was not invented by itatchi. *SPOILER* in the manga when Itatchi is ressurected and fights Kabuto he said that Izanami has been used for many years to counter the Izanagi Jutsu, because there were many cases where Mulitple Uchihas would use Izanagi and they would fight for control over which reality would be the real reality. Uchihas were abusing this power and thus Izanami was used to stop this and in order for then to stop Izanami they must come to grips with their wrong doings and have to see their errors and that would break Izanami. *SPOILER* that is why Kabuto will probably not break Izanami, because he is trying to be oorichamaro because he is using his Jutsu's and trying to be someone else other than himself.

 

[Davemac90]

Yeah there's a lot of dumb in here. Who says a Rinnegan user won't lose their light? You just made that up. Izanagi and Izanami came as a pair along time ago we need more info from Kishi before more speculation can be made.

They are kinjutsu. Whomever uses the technique loses an eye.

Man actually he is correct about the Rinegan. I wouldn't call people dumb when you yourself don't know the facts. The Rinnegan is actually an Upgraded form of the Eternal Mangekyo Sharingan, which means you never lose light in that eye with the EMS. So it only means that If the EMS you can't lose your sight than the upgraded and final form of the EMS which is the Rinnegan you can't ever lose your light in that eye. So if you can't ever lose light in that eye than using Izanagi will not make you lose your eye sight after using it. So that does mean that Madaara can use Izanagi without losing his sight, but that's only if Madara knows how to use Izangi. Tobi however I do not think will be able to use Izanagi with his Rinnegan without losing his sight in that eye, because If you remember Tobi did use Izanagi while fighting Konan and he did lose his eye sight and since Tobi did not obtain his Rinnegan by normal means and he only transplanted it in to himself I do not think he will be able to use it properly and he will lose his sight just like Danzo and himself when he first used it. But obtaining the Rinnegan by ordinary means by losing someone close to you and having a traumatic experience does mean you can use Izanagi and Izanami without any eye sight lose.

 

[Davemac90]

he cant break out of edo tensei where to you get that ?

Madara actually can break the Edo tensei and not be affected by it being released. He actually mentions it in one of the latest mangas. He is the brother to the creator of the Edo Tensei so he knows the ins and outs of the jutsu. In a way its like what Dan does in the manga where his spirit is released right before the Edo tensei is released and he is able to fly to Tsunade, except he is able to keep his body intact after his soul was about to be release when the ET was released. Another theory that i got from the manga is who Madara, when * SPOILER* fighting the Kages, says" who says he is under kabutos ET." this leads you to believe that it might not be Tobi go ressurected madara. Someone else might have either be in control of Kabutos ET, or someone else might have ressurected madar and he is under someone else's ET. (madaras) because Kabuto showed him how the Edo tensei works.

 

[Davemac90]

So, Nagato can use Izanami and Izanagi too? :|

No, nagato is not an Uchiha. Only Uchihas are allowed to use Izanagior Izanami. Nagato does not know how to use the jutsu and correct me if im wrong, but in order for someone to use Izanagi, or Izanami they hafta read the secret text in the hidden room of the Uchihas.

 

[Davemac90]

hmph but madara hadn't learn full power of the rinnegan cause he said himself he got rinnegan just before he died................so e could loose his sight

But remember in the manga even though Madara said he has not perfected his power and has not reache his full potential, Kabuto was speaking through MU, and said that your bodys power is beyond what it was whenyoubwere living. That is why Im pretty sure Madara would be able to use Izanagi.

 

[Rinne Maseru]

I believe your theory about izanagi,but I think izanami was invented by itachi.

Being that it is said that izanami was created as a counterpart to izanagi to reprimand the usage and dangers of it your theory makes no sense.
Although itachi was always on watch of the clan under danzo & hiruzen it would make no sense if he had created this dojutsu due to the fact that he would lose the light in his eyes and being that he had both sharingan still, he would have had to been taking the eyes of the other clansmen which contradicts making a dojutsu to save his clansmen from killing eachother.
Even if Kishi were to state that the origin of izanami lies with itachi it would be nonsense.


(point made)

 

[Lightbringer]

I believe your theory about izanagi,but I think izanami was invented by itachi.

Itachi stated that Izanami was invented by past Uchiha to counter Izanagi

why does everyone think that Itachi is the sole wielder of Izanami?

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