PROOF ----> It wasn't Perfect Susanoo.. AND HERE'S WHY...

kotoamatsukami

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the rinnegan part, at least as I see it that the Rinnegan is for "stabilizing" the Susanoo, the easiest point is that just before using PS Madara's eyes were in EMS form, and when he started the PS his eyes's switched to Rinnegan, and he wasn't planning on using a Rinnegan tech, and he didn't have clones left, or summons to be using the Rinnegans field of vision, so if the Rinnegan wasn't needed for PS then Madara switched to it just to look more like a hipster.. right..
Susanoo is sharingan not rennigan anyway..are you trying to say he did not use ps susanoo fighting the 1st or are you saying that picture was not the ps susanoo?
 

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Welcome you should also edit your post and add the scan where Madara states that it was said that anyone who saw Perfect Susanoo died. Then you should say that if this was true then how come Hashirama survived the fight and defeat Madara. Plus when Madara stated it was said that probably hints that he's probably never used it and hes just going by what other people said.
 

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Madara said perfect susanoo was the true power of uchiha Madara

And oonoki states if this is his true power why didn't he use it back then

Doesn't that tell you it's an EMS technique
 

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Susanoo is sharingan not rennigan anyway..are you trying to say he did not use ps susanoo fighting the 1st or are you saying that picture was not the ps Susanna?

I said Susanoo is a Sharingan tech
I said Madara did use Susanoo vs Hashirama
BUT not PS rather, just a BIG Susaoo..
I said in order for that Big Susanoo to become "Perfect" it needs to have it's chakra stabilized (look at a regular Susanoo and how it's form is not like of a physical object, it's more like a chakra cloak, and doen't look completely solid as PS looks)

AND I said that I think that's where the Rinnegan comes in play - simply to stabilize the chakra of the Susanoo


Madara said perfect susanoo was the true power of uchiha Madara

And oonoki states if this is his true power why didn't he use it back then

Doesn't that tell you it's an EMS technique

read my responce to kotoamatsukami's post..

The Rinnegan just stabilized the chakra of the EMS tech that is the Susanoo |(

He was just beginning to activate susanoo and that's all was shown...maybe in 620 we will see ot in its complete form.....btw nice work dude!
thanks,
and that's why I said at the end of the post, that if it is shown in the next chapters that he did use it, I'll accept it, but until then this is my pov
 
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I see where you are coming from and the evidence you posted makes sense But

Madara clearly said the unstabilized version was Perfect susano'o. Even if the rinnegan stabilizes it it is still the same tech..

For example the Juubi is incomplete but does that make it something else? No. Its still the Juubi. Same case with this. I respect your opinion but i have to disagree.
 

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I see where you are coming from and the evidence you posted makes sense But

Madara clearly said the unstabilized version was Perfect susano'o. Even if the rinnegan stabilizes it it is still the same tech..

For example the Juubi is incomplete but does that make it something else? No. Its still the Juubi. Same case with this. I respect your opinion but i have to disagree.

Quoting myself:

that's what's misleading most people,

they think Perfect Susanoo is the name of the tech, and that you can have "perfect" Perfect Susanoo and ''impurfect'' Perfect Susanoo..


where as it is referred to as Perfect Susanoo because it's the most complete and perfect form of the Susanoo, it's like

so there is only one PS - the complete,stabilized "perfect" version of the Susanoo



and for the juubi analogy it's like Perfect Juubi - not being the Juubi itself, but it's complete and most perfect form



So at least as I see it Perfect Susanoo i not the name of the tech is just a description of the Susanoo being Perfect - stabilized



BUT hey, we'll wait to see next few chapters, no biggie
 

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unless you can see the future (in which case I'd like to ask you which stock will rise), use statements like "Madara may have used PS" or STFU
i sense the butthurt already. telling people to STFU when you already know that you are wrong. madara already used PS in a not stabilized form. its still PS therefore this thread is trash.
 

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Quoting myself:

that's what's misleading most people,

they think Perfect Susanoo is the name of the tech, and that you can have "perfect" Perfect Susanoo and ''impurfect'' Perfect Susanoo..


where as it is referred to as Perfect Susanoo because it's the most complete and perfect form of the Susanoo, it's like

so there is only one PS - the complete,stabilized "perfect" version of the Susanoo



and for the juubi analogy it's like Perfect Juubi - not being the Juubi itself, but it's complete and most perfect form



So at least as I see it Perfect Susanoo i not the name of the tech is just a description of the Susanoo being Perfect - stabilized



BUT hey, we'll wait to see next few chapters, no biggie
But Perfect Susano'o is the name of the tech. It is what Madara called it . So therefore until proven to be two different techs they are both Perfect Susano'o. Just different forms.

Regular susano'o also has various forms but does that mean they are different techs.
 
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